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Well, what was that? Didn't see the twist that Bran would be king. I guess this was a continuation of the rush ending that d&d had in mind. It seemed anti-climatic for a series ending even with what happened to Daenarys. I'll take Bran as king. Jon gets to be with the people of his first lover. Not sure about Bron's ascent. He gets to be lord but all he can focus on are brothels? Undeserving. Sansa's taken her place as queen like I thought. I believe she has lived, learned, and matured. The only really good thing is Arya's path to discovering what's West of Westeros. Can we get a spin off please? Minus d&d because NO.

You glossed over the part where she risked her life and dragons to rescue Jon and company before proof the wights existed. She owed him nothing especially after he refused to bend the knee. What exactly was the benefit to her not eating? Or to cry over Jorah who she admitted she did not love? An unempathic person / narcissist would see a man bleed on his floor and complain the floor is ruined. And Jon bent that knee on his own accord. Daenarys didn't say, okay I've witnessed what you warned us about and I'll help you further if you bend the knee. She considers the dragons as her children and lost one trying to rescue Jon.

So when Dany became close enough with Messandai to be her best friend, what was that? Messandai, a slave girl, close to a royal. When Dany stopped eating after Messandai died, what was that? Someone who has no empathy would never mourn another who was beneath her. She would never have cared to give Grey Worm her only possession. There were many instances that showed she was good including the time she went to rescue Jon and company from the NK. That was even before Jon had proof to show the wights existed. So I don't buy this notion that she was just an evil, unempathetic, crazy character.

So Euron never figured out the baby wasn't his. I thought it was because he wasn't the brightest. But then it occurred to me that the writers didn't catch it either. Jamie had a chance to crush him by saying it was his child and not Euron's. He was never going to kill Cersei if he thought she was pregnant. It was just absolutely ridiculous he made it to her after getting stabbed twice. He got to comfort the person who put a hit on him. That whole scene was unnecessary.

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I didn't see it as Tyrion not wanting to kill Cersei. It was Tyrion trying to get her out so Jaimie could tell them to ring the bell and spare thousands of people.

He told her that when she was sitting on her throne at Dragonstone. She looked at Tyrion and then nodded towards Grey Worm. I thought she considered it but the writers wanted her to go batshit crazy. I just didn't buy it. It was uncharacteristic of her. Burn children? Come on. The fight was with Cersei; not the people. She was putting her own Army in danger. This episode was just idiotic.

Of course it was coming! All the animosity towards Dany before this episode was a build up. The writers intended to turn her into the mad queen all along. They made sure Dany did it after the surrender so people would see her as a monster. But the icing on this disgusting cake is they ensured Arya witnessed her atrocities up close so that their disastrous story would have an escape. If Arya kills her then the girl took care of the other girl. It creates an opening. Enter the king Aegon Targaryen. Summary of episode: A big WTF!?

I see both sides of the argument. Sansa's concerns are legitimate. They just fought the undead and lost a lot of people in the process. Just fighting against humans can cause post traumatic stress. They are not robots. The body and mind need to recover. Now, they move towards another battle. Jon being a yes man doesn't help. Yet, Dany was right. The longer she leaves Cersei; the stronger she gets. Except Cersei prepared while they fought the night king. She's already there. I imagine Dany considered where she would be now had she ditched the talks with Cersei. Maybe attacked KL and taken the throne. Then headed to Winterfel for the NK. But she listened to the advices and talked to the wall that is Cersei. That cost her a great deal. And now it looks like they conspire against her. Honestly, this all felt rushed and uncharacteristic of their nature. It was either to accommodate the shortened number of episodes or to push the showrunner's vision.

You're right. He had them running and they had no counter to the "scorpions" / harpoons used against them. I actually wondered why Euron didn't pursue them as they swam to land. They were in no position to fight back. Yeah, the dragon needed to rest but not the men. I keep seeing all these holes and it's disappointing.

I would accept that if this wasn't Cersei. She has no honor. Why would she care about being a good sport? The writers are pushing the idea that Cersei has convinced her people that she's protecting them from Dany. This is why they enter the area of the red keep. They would be celebrating and hailing their queen protector.

I want to know why Arya said she didn't need allies just before Jon has Bran tell them his true identity. Maybe she doesn't personally. But it's needed for houses and kingdoms. You need allies in battles. Family is more important to her but then she leaves Sansa and Bran with no plans of returning. She also didn't want to know Dany but acknowledges they needed her help. Dany may not be a warrior but she did what she could. She risk her life knowing the NK can thrust a spear into her dragon. Jon even tried to stop her and warned the NK was coming. Her decision slowed down the wave of wights. Then after she lost so much they won't even give her a chance. They don't trust Jon vouching for her but Jaime who's committed more sins against them is fine. Jaime, the man who killed Dany's father, is given the benefit of the doubt. Dany humbled herself and let Sansa decide. But they won't give her a chance. If she goes mad queen in the next episode, it's understandable. I don't think she's mad as in crazy but mad as in angry. She lost two dragons (her children), Messandei, Jorah, all Dothrakis, a big chunk of unsullied and her ships. And she tried to reason with Cersei as advised. She may as well talked to a wall. I keep seeing people blaming her for the losses in this episode because they thought she was headed to King's Landing. She was ambushed going home to Dragonstone. Cersei was scheming while they fought the NK. Speaking of Cersei, why didn't she just kill them all as they stood before her? It was a great opportunity to be rid of her brother, the last dragon, and Dany. We know she's willing to kill her own people. It just seemed so bizarre they would put themselves in a very vulnerable position before Cersei who just ambushed them.

Sansa didn't have to tell Jon anything after she specifically told him to wait until they could get more men. He wanted to go with what little they had. He decided that. Whether or not reinforcement came he was going. Why is his decision her fault? Jon puts himself into suicide missions. He stood there ready to be trampled by Bolton's cavalry then got trapped in a circle. He would've died if Knights of the Vale had not shown up. But yeah it's all Sansa's fault that this adult decided to put himself in that situation.

Varys may have ulterior motives but it's hard to argue against him when he is trying to prevent the murder of innocents. That's why Cersei let all those people in. If Dany attacks then Cersei can blame her for the casualties. I also understand where Dany is coming from. You are trying to reason with unreasonable Cersei. She doesn't care for her people especially after her walk of shame. So what do you do to a tyrant who uses her own people as pawns? Just let her be? If her dragon weren't so vulnerable, she could drop hundreds of messages over KL and tell them Cersei's cruel intentions. Then they could revolt.

Sansa isn't watching a show or seeing into the past like Bran. She is reacting in the moment based on her own personal experiences. Also, this isn't some contest to see who suffered more. Of course they have all suffered even ultra villain Cersei. Nothing is more painful than losing a child. But losing all three?