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Figures. They're all so wasted perpetually, I have no idea how any of them get it up tbh. Tomas was an easy target because everyone was hyping it up as this ultra-macho, animal-style consummation celebrating their probable match and then...crickets. The editors play dirty! Based on Calli's porno moan I thought he was already inside her before the cameras even cut away lol. She was understanding though. And "Boom Boom Room" sounds like Fred Flinstone's secret fuckpad.

True. Asia, Bria and Kenya are also about as intimidating as a high school production of West Side Story. If they weren't all so caught up in their juvenile "baddest bitch" pissing contest they'd realize Zak is the human equivalent of soggy cardboard. He gets douchier every week and thinks it's cute to act like an oblivious teenage boy who takes glee out of girls fighting over him because he's just that cool. He subtly stirs the pot, enjoys the catfight, and takes the victor to the boom boom room. He's playing them all.

Me too :( I missed it through the yelling and bleeping, did Kwasi imply he'd rape Kayla? I thought he was saying that he could have sex with her whenever. Hey, Moe has a pulse! Since when is he into Asia? Bad choice. Morgan..........love yourself. Brett is cute in a high school boyfriend way.

Thanks! <3 why would one steal...oars?

Not to sound like a square, but can someone please explain the oars thing to me? Is that what Larry accused him of stealing for dope money?

Mackenzie so wishes she were Chelsea, but no amount of glossy filtered photo ops will turn Ryan into Cole.

I think Tristan likes the excitement of the drama and the (probably kinky) sex, but as soon as Mia gets bored of doing the Manic Pixie Dream Girl act to distract from her felonies, he'll find her whiny and controlling (which he also seems to be).

Yes! Mia could murder someone and Tristan would still say "that's my queen." All he cares about is showing off his light skinned wife as arm candy. If that'd been Shawniece, he would've first of all had a Jaime-style meltdown and bitched all the way through the reception. He would've demanded an annulment the second the TSA pulled her off the plane and used her legal issues to avoid admitting his preferences colorism.

Danielle trying to be affectionate with Bobby

My friend pointed out that the sibling affair was the catalyst for the car crash, which is true and I guess why it was included because it was the trigger that pissed off her husband. Still, it was barely mentioned and they didn't necessarily need a back story for the car crash because accidents happen at random all the time. Don't you hate it when an argument about you boning your brother inadvertently kills half your remaining kin? How many people have been killed in incest related automobile accidents? LOL

Incest is just kind of a lazy way to make any book or movie automatically darker or more twisted without actually having to write anything or be creative. Given that most cases of incest are rape or child molestation, I'm sure actual incest survivors don't appreciate when it's portrayed as consensual and some sort of Romeo and Juliet style forbidden love affair. Like…there's a reason it isn't accepted by society....they're siblings...you can literally pick anyone else on Earth lol. Also again it was just really cheap shock value that added nothing to the suspense or the plot. They spent a distressing amount of time fleshing it out (no pun intended) and the only payoff was Emily's nickname. It didn't really work as a red herring because they relied too much on making Stephanie an oblivious, naive narrator to suddenly reveal her as a murderous double agent. She just wound up being an emotionally disturbed woman who had sex with her brother (...because he reminded her of their dead dad...? truly an incest turducken), which was very unsatisfying and didn't jive with her characterization the majority of the movie as a zany comic relief character. I know! She played suave sexually ambiguous temptress very well. Even though Anna Kendrick and Blake Lively are around the same age, Anna Kendrick has the same mousy, demure teenage look that she had in Twilight. Honestly I think the only reason Blake didn't play her teenage self is because they wanted to cast actual twins for the flashbacks.

I can't believe no one brought up Tia's hilarious "Yes bitch. Yes." when Annaliese came back onstage.

I don't know, this couple seems pretty genuine if the story is true. It's not a reckless embryo implantation story, just a freak accident caused by low-dose fertility medication which was apparently taken to prveent blood clots (?). They talked extensively about being horrified at the number of babies (sincerely, not in the slapstick "imagine the DIAPERS!" way) and were miserable wrecks for weeks. I think the constant invoking of religion is not holier-than-thou or pretentious a la Duggars, but the only emotional coping mechanism they know to deal with the shock and stress. Unlike other multiple parents who seem to think the sheer power of their kids' cuteness and publicity will magically produce a 24/7 army of nannies until they go to kindergarten, Eric and Courtney seem to already be bracing for exhaustion and financial woes. They're excited, but also appear borderline morose about the whole situation. They're likely only doing this show to pay medical bills, not for celebrity (Gosselins) or social media fame/endorsements (Busbys).

You're so welcome! Haha. I hadn't thought of twin, but I knew as soon as they found the body it wasn't Emily because that'd be too easy and the face looked too rough to be her. Searching did "huge suspenseful plot twist" multiple times much more effectively imo, so I spoiled my own expectations unintentionally by seeing Searching a week before this one. I was expecting something cleverer.

Man, Tyler and Kailyn are both embarrassingly desperate to act "street" to look cool...as they live out their bougie upper-middle-class adulthood in suburbia. Tyler isn't Eminem, but he's certainly just as whiny and obsessed with haters.

You hit the nail on the head - Max has said as much in multiple THs. He may be dull, but he has her number. And here's the article about his rap sheet and most recent charges/guilty plea for stealing cash and a credit card from a 77-year-old woman.

For sure anything is possible, but it's MTV. I guess if Nilsa lives near PCB the ex friend scenario is possible, but the Logan thing seemed weirdly staged. I guess they just have a camera set up outside the house 24 hours a day? Because otherwise it makes no sense that they would just happen to be there at 3 AM when everyone is asleep.

A lot of folks on not just this forum, but every other TLC reality show forum, are bizarrely quick to project incest and pedophilia on pretty much every male character who they don't like or who acts strangely, which is basically everyone on TLC lol. I realize there's unfortunate precedent with the Duggars, but it's frankly a reach to assume that every positive interaction within the family or generations is evidence of incestuous sexual attraction. Re: Lauren's dad, lots of dads go wedding dress shopping with their daughters and lots of daughters value their fathers opinion and approval. Of course he's going to go along either way because of their weird overemphasis on patriarchy and gender roles. I don't think Lauren expressing her love for her dad or him helping her pick out a dress indicates any kind of romantic or lustful subtext whatsoever. If that were true, Say Yes to the Dress would be crawling with perverts. People just see what they want to see because as onlookers, we're fascinated by the obsessive sexual repression promoted by these families and therefore we start to believe that strictness is compensating for bigger taboos or that everyone is secretly banging each other behind the scenes out of sheer unbridled horniness. Lauren's just a prudish, boring, sheltered girl who loves her prudish, boring, sheltered dad. ETA: @graefin I hope you know I'm agreeing with you and going on my own riff instead of criticizing your post! :)

I agree...apart from the apparent trespassing charges and felony theft from the elderly.

This is true. I absolutely don't think he deserves to be called a creepy obsessive stalker boyfriend based on what we've seen. I think that everyone here just has a natural tendency to draw their own conclusions based on personal projections or likability, and Max's bland personality and lofty faux wisdom doesn't make him all that likable or appealing. I don't interpret his desire to be around Chloe family all the time as entitlement or infringing on Jessica's precious territory – he's just bored and lonely with nowhere else to go and either doesn't have the social skills to recognize that he's overstepping boundaries or does it on purpose to get under Jessica's skin out of spite. He's not threatening or a shit-eating asshole like Diego, he's just offputting socially because there's no there there and Chloe's parents are clearly projecting apathy and antagonism onto that blank slate, which they don't seem to realize is creating a lot of unnecessary tension with Max where there would've otherwise been none apart from the usual impregnation resentment, If Jessica would take the stick log out of her ass for 30 seconds and stop making the entire situation about her emotions and being forced to relive the failures of her youth, she would notice that Max just want someone to embrace him and take him under their wing, which doesn't necessarily have to go as far as surrogate parenting, and can be as simple as not being repulsed by his presence. If this is how hostile and overdramatic Jessica is choosing to be before the baby even arrives, every social/school event is going to be a nightmare for the next 30 years, right up to the kid's wedding. @Scarlett45 You're right that Jo's parents took Kail in with open arms... and then she cheated on him under their roof, continues to trash talk their son and their entire family on TV for nine years, and graduated to an abusive, insatiable narcissist. An unfortunate cautionary tale to kindness and proof that you never know what you're getting when you decide to take in your teenager's baby mama/daddy. Love can't rehabilitate everyone lol

This forum has become a ghost town and it's not hard to see why. This episode barely deserves commentary because it was so boring. These girls fight over the most inane bullshit every episode. Nilsa's ex's coworker (...ok) was obviously a producer plant and the businessman that she was rude to was probably a plant because what middle-aged man in business attire walks around a dirty bar making conversation with wasted twentysomethings? Then again, a lot of middle-aged men are casual alcoholics, but it was still weird. How convenient that Nilsa remembers everything else that happened except the one thing that made everyone pissed at her. She was acting so erratic that I assumed she was blacked out the whole rest of the night. That's embarrassing that she remembers how she acted AND justifies it. Way to make what was supposed to be a somber hangout for a grieving friend about your malignant narcissism and pathetic quest for distraction dick. The producers who encouraged Logan to chase Kortni for drama should be ashamed for facilitating the beginning of all his threats and stalking. I know I said I liked Jeremiah and Kortni together, but she sure is being true to form in progressing the relationship in the trashiest way possible. Maybe don't flat out tell your crush how badly you want to bone them unprompted as they're crying over a grandparent who died 24 hours ago....just a light suggestion. The mermaid academy actually looks fun and will be a hell of a lot more entertaining to watch than the usual drunken fighting.

I got lesbian vibes from them too! The birthing center still gives me pause. 2.5 hours away, decorated like a preschool for grown women, no drugs. I also loved "We don't do IVs, we want you to get nutrition naturally!" Yeah, because every laboring woman is going to take a break from shoving a human out of her crotch to go microwave a Hot Pocket.

I'm sorry I'm late but did she tag the brand of the fucking straw????????????

For me, it's not a pearl clutching thing as much as I think the clunkiness of making child actors curse ruins the dialogue because it's such an obvious cheap ploy to get the audience to laugh or a really lazy way of communicating the adult character's shitty parenting. When you make six or seven-year-olds say fuck, the line almost never sounds natural because they obviously have no familiarity with the context of the word or the emotion behind it. Or you get older kids like the kids from Stranger Things who know cuss words and take glee out of being allowed to say them because they're still young enough to be forbidden from swearing and still feel like they're getting away with something. Long story short, it never works for me because they're either too young to be intentionally using those words in everyday vocabulary or In that in between stage where they think swearing makes them rebellious and cool. Any way you slice it, it's pretty insignificant but still annoying. It definitely suffers from tonal dissonance. It was marketed as a kind of Gone Girl for suburban moms, and in my opinion when they stuck to that formula it was great, but there were other random scenes in the middle where it became Mean Girls, Bad Moms, and Pitch Perfect. I understand wanting to differentiate it from Gone Girl, but they should've kept the comedy dark to be more cohesive with the thriller theme. Suddenly being expected to giggle at parents mocking Stephanie or Stephanie struggling to unzip a dress in the middle of all these other intense mystery and murder and sex scenes just made me feel like I was flipping the channel in between multiple different movies. (Not to mention Emily's Regina George ending) Right and re: your question @Miss Slay I think it was just to highlight the film's overall theme that you don't really know anyone and that everyone has something to hide. When you look at Stephanie, you see a super wholesome, prudish PTA queen mom who you'd probably think spends all her free time organizing field trips and looking up cookie recipes on Pinterest. I don't think there's an exact profile for someone who would be inclined to start up a consensual incestuous sexual relationship with your sibling unless you've both been through a horrible shared trauma or raised in total isolation together a la Blue Lagoon or Flowers in the Attic, but if there was a profile, it definitely wouldn't be Stephanie. Incest is one of the most stigmatized social taboos, especially between siblings and especially if you went in knowing you were related. Stephanie has to hide not only her sexual attraction to her brother, but the fact that they consummated it. That's a tremendous amount of psychological stress and shame to be carrying around, which is only exacerbated by the fact that because of the stigma, she can't talk about it with anyone. Plus, her husband's suspicion and the heavy implication that the affair was not only ongoing, but her brother fathered her child (gross) caused the collapse of her marriage and likely contributed to the car crash that caused both of them to die. Emily is a master manipulator and correctly guessed that Stephanie had something she needed to get off her chest. When that guilt is mixed with alcohol and Stephanie predictably being a huge light weight and not a day drinker, the confession was inevitable. Now, that plot point is a fascinating character study and an awesome gateway for an exploration of human psychology. Unfortunately, all we got was "brotherfucker" added to every fourth line of dialogue because the writers apparently thought seventh grade taunts were peak comedy. That was a huge missed opportunity to augment the twisted thriller aspects of the movie and solidify its genre imo. You can't just go "Our main character is so emotionally damaged and craving validation that she knowingly had sex with her brother.......HILARIOUS!!!"

But - but - her face just fell onto his dick! It was too fast!