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Neither are Lana’s!

I've been doing the online dating thing (ugh-NIGHTMARE) and before I meet ANYONE I do some digging to make sure they are who they say they are, and they're not criminals, pedophiles or married. I can dig up a HUGE amount of info on these people just knowing their first name and maybe one other detail (town, workplace, high school, etc). My friends and family tease me about my super-sleuthing abilities. It's done me VERY well - I've found one who had a pretty serious arrest record in another state, a couple that were married and one who was in a committed "FB official" relationship. On the contrary, if I'm finding nothing at all I can be reasonably assured that the person is a catfish or not who they claim to be and the chat stops there. So it blows my mind how time after time, these people fail to do even the most basic research before jumping into "relationships" with their foreign flames and sending them money and spending thousands to travel to them.

I think the reason for all the "he's not really British" comments is not because his country of residence is necessarily in question (although it kind of is), it's because Yolanda specifically made a point of going to a puddle over his "British" accent that he clearly does NOT have.

Snort laughed at my desk over this one. #truestory

She doesn't strike me as someone emotionally stable enough to be able to genuinely love anyone so I don't believe she ever loved him the way a normal, well-adjusted person loves their partner. I think she loved him in whatever capacity she's capable when she thought he was a rich, malleable, sperm donor and ticket to the US. I think she was disillusioned when she found he was none of those things and whatever "love-like" feelings she had for him evaporated. And I have no doubt if he goes groveling back to her and bends to her demands those "love-like" feelings will be rekindled for her.

Regarding both - I could appreciate and respect a cultural explanation for their personalities if either of them was genuine and honorable from the beginning. But I don't believe what they've exhibited are personality quirks - they are attempts at manipulating and bullying their men. For instance, if Jazmin had declined to go to Blake's BFF's bday celebration from day one I'd chalk it up to being an introvert. If she had agreed to go and said to Blake "I'll go but can you please just take it easy on the alcohol for the night," I'd respect that. But to agree to go and at the last minute demand that he ditch the dinner and go with her and then back out of the party is rude and manipulative. That's not cultural. And everyone keeps comparing Alla and Natalie but there's a HUGE distinction. Alla was completely candid from day 1 that she was not in love with Matt but that she was fond of him and respected him and hoped to grow to love him. She was always respectful of him. Natalie love-bombed Mike when she was trying to get him to knock her up and bring her to the US and when she discovered she wasn't going to get her way then suddenly she changed her tune and did a complete 180 and claimed she wasn't in love with him. It was purely a manipulation tactic and she was absolutely stringing him along.

If you look at a map of NJ, there are barrier islands up much of the southern coastline. Most of the ocean beach resorts in the south are on the east side of those barrier islands (LBI, Seaside, to name a couple big ones). Toms River is on the mainland coast and to get to the barrier island where the Seaside resort is at (and the ocean front) you have to go through Toms River and over a bridge to the island (or boat across the bay to the island). So they're on the bay but not ocean side. They look across the bay to the Seaside barrier island. Everyone down here still considers Toms River "down the shore" because it's still a resort area on the water with boating, fishing and salt water. But you have to drive or boat over to the actual ocean. There are no barrier islands further north so the northern beaches (Spring Lake, Belmar, Asbury Park) are on the main coast but right on the ocean.

I just realized this scene was a bonus scene in the "more to love" episode that was on before the new one last night. My apologies for the confusion - I too was enjoying a glass (or a few) of wine while I watched so my recall is a bit fuzzy.

Call me old-fashioned, but has society really gotten to a point where its not only acceptable but funny for young boys to overhear their mother's "passionate moments" AND TO POINT IT OUT AND JOKE ABOUT IT??? I'd be absolutely MORTIFIED if my teen children overheard me getting it on in the next room and in addition, felt it was acceptable to bring it up as acceptable conversation at the breakfast table! I know many may feel the boys were being disrespectful by mentioning it, but honestly, if Anna and Mursel were thoughtless, selfish, tactless and irresponsible enough to have refrained from using any decorum whatsoever with her sons in the next room, then I have no problem with the boys trying to embarrass them over it. And then for Anna and Mursel to laugh sheepishly and not be completely mortified that her sons chose to guffaw over it at the breakfast table is proof that she commands zero respect from her sons and has no class at all. What a disgusting piece of trash. Edited because I hit enter too fast.

She's so phenomenally desperate to cling to any glimmer of hope that she'll finally get to call someone her "fiance" that she's blind to any and all signs that would indicate that might not happen.

100% all of the above. I was seriously nauseated over their sobbing and proclamations of "it's not fair." Jenny has watched way too many Nicholas Sparks movies with all her "my heart is being ripped out," and tearful "please do what you have to do so we can be together!" She makes me ragey with her complete insistence on taking no accountability whatsoever and for seeming to take pride in being the constant victim. Sumit at least admits that he lied - A LOT. I still think he's a shameful scammer, but at least he pays it some half-assed lip service. Jenny is as delusional and stubborn as they come and has clearly picked up no common sense along the way during her 60+ years of living. Ugh I could seriously go on all day about how much I despise this pathetic and stupid woman and her lying liar scammer boyfriend. Starting to really like Deavan and Jihoon. She seems to have true affection for him and he clearly adores her. Tiffany is an awful mother and compounds one horrible decision with the next, the sum total of which ultimately come crashing down on her poor son. She's really, truly horrible.

AMEN!!!! I'm blown away by the number of people on social media that are sympathizing with and rooting for these two scumbags! He was a catfishing, philandering scam artist and she's a juvenile, delusional homewrecker. Romeo and Juliet they are NOT. They are both lying, cheating scumbags who deserve anything they've got coming to them. Jenny lost what minuscule sympathy I had for her when she found out he was married and still allowed him the option of choosing to stay with her. She MET the wife - how could she look that woman in the face and still insist on pursuing this relationship? What a heartless, clueless, horrible excuse for a human being.

AND CARGO CAPRI PANTS! I do not know one single man - gay or straight - who would wear cargo capri pants. For someone who seems to fancy himself as quite the Dapper Don, he really has horrific style.

YES!!! I thought the same thing!

It seems unpopular opinion here but I agree 100%! I didn't get the impression that Tom was sending a car to the airport for the purpose of being thoughtful and considerate - he did it because he couldn't be inconvenienced to go himself and didn't want to subject himself to her *gasp* bad breath - oh the horror! And I don't think the AirBNB for her was because he's a gentleman who is determined to treat her with the "respect she deserves". I think he did it because he wasn't sure if he'd be attracted to her and didn't want to be stuck with her in the event she wasn't hot enough to bang. Because in the next breath he mentions that if she "happens" to invite him to her place for an evening then so be it. Sounds like he's ok with wham, bam thank you ma'am and out the door. And that's pretty much the OPPOSITE of showing a woman respect.

I think he's the spitting image of Roland Gift of the Fine Young Cannibals (circa 1989ish). Roland Gift used to creep me out too...

I was PISSED that they kowtowed to his histrionics.

I was confused by that as well. I thought at some point in the beginning of the season they said it was a couple hours away by car? But then when he was on the phone with his father Sumit declined an offer to have someone pick him up at the airport? My guess is it's a reasonable driving distance, but his parents THINK he's much farther away so he has to play it as if he flew there so it wouldn't be reasonable to just drop in for a quick visit.

I really REALLY want to know how Jenny has managed to make it through 60+ years of life on this planet (AND MANAGE TO KEEP CHILDREN ALIVE TO ADULTHOOD!). I'm absolutely blown away by how clueless, needy and helpless she is. I keep envisioning Sumit coming home to her withered away skeleton still sitting on the bed where he left her because she was too stupid to know how to feed herself.

He "shushed" Debbie and told her to shut up and swatted her away more than once. If that's the way he treats the one person on the planet that he actually "respects" (his MOTHER no less!) then it REALLY speaks volumes to your point.

Co-signing 100% of this. Jamie and Elizabeth are both incapable of being level-headed and communicating effectively. Amber needed therapy BEFORE her husband was out all night. At this point I think a 5150 hold might be necessary. My guests can make themselves at home and help themselves to the beverages in my fridge anytime they want. I fell more in love with Greg after this episode and was happy to see Deonna finally warming up and giving him some encouragement. Oh...and now that I've been introduced to the term, as a divorced, middle-aged, independent woman I think a situationship would be kind of perfect right now.

YES!!! I said the same thing. Granted, Elizabeth is an entitled wacko with PLENTY of short comings that warrant some snark. But I absolutely don't believe she had any mal-intent when she asked about his parents' divorce. She seemed to truly be trying to get to know him on a deeper level. For him to attack back with "ok, well if we're talking about what bothers us..." made him look like a psycho with anger management issues. She wasn't "bothered" by his parents' divorce, she didn't seem to be insulting him in any way. The fact that he's so triggered after 10 years that he can't even have a candid discussion about it sends up huge red flags to me. Now their 2nd fight when he came home with flowers and tried to maturely talk to her about things that bothered him and she responded like a damn lunatic is a whole other story... In closing, they're both nuts with zero ability to communicate maturely, calmly and effectively.

OMG YES!!!! I had to rewind TWICE to try to figure out wtf they were chattering on about! It was bizarre.

In a cast of losers and weirdos, Brian takes the cake by far. He's just so odd in every way and there is so much that is "off" about him and his relationship with Gentille. From his "teeth" (aka cheap flippers), to his child-like speech pattern mixed with his very hardened looks he's just...odd. He's got to be a recovering addict (or maybe not recovering so much) no??? And my gut is telling me his relationship with Gentille isn't legit. You never actually see them kiss or show any true physical affection and I just cannot fathom that a woman who is as successful and seemingly sharp as Gentille would be at all attracted to someone so "off" who has absolutely no redeeming qualities - not handsome, not charming, not chivalrous, not independent, no personality. So I'm calling "made for tv relationship".

I have ALWAYS thought he looked like Jaws - even sans braces & tux.