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  1. One thing that feels "new" about this season is that I don't find myself wondering who the killer is. Usually, I'm all over that -- not to toot my own horn (TOOT), but I guessed who the killers were within 5 seconds of seeing them on-screen, both in Season 1 and in Season 2.
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    S09.E06: Who Are You Now?

    I'm really surprised that my husband still asks to watch this show... For 60 minutes I'm just sitting there cringing and looking down at my phone. I can't even deal with how annoying and sanctimonious and idiotic everyone is -- and I wanna jump out a window every time Judith is on-screen.
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    S02.E08: The Big Sleep

    wow so. ok so no one's got anything to say? this show is the inverse of the american dream. or it's the fricking. it's the fricking. it's how dangerous the american dream really is. there are no heroes only villains when it comes to ruthless ambition.
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    S01.E08: Milk

    I guess I did a bad job of explaining whether or not I think the show is successful. I do. My general thesis is that the story seeks to illustrate the hazards of buying into the good mother myth. More specifically (and more oppressively), there is a greater risk in accepting the maternal instinct myth -- which postulates that all "real" women are born with a natural drive to have and rear children. These lies about women and femininity have the power to do real harm, to in fact derail both families and communities, if we continue to accept them as truth. Sometimes there is nothing more dangerous or scary than a parent who should have never been -- I believe Sharp Objects succeeds in taking this theme to the max.
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    S01.E08: Milk

    Of course, solving the murders is a natural curiosity, but I think it remains obvious from the first to the last episode of Sharp Objects who is dangerous. And if the story fails to inform family dysfunction and mental illness, it is not a successful show. If it does not highlight how behavior can be transferred from parent to child, and why sometimes it doesn't -- if we are not more curious about why Camille railed against her mother, while her two sisters did not -- then the show is not worth watching. I found the show extremely challenging on a personal level. The themes it exposes about maternal abuse and the stereotypes we carry about who a mother is v. who we think she should be are novel. Cultural notions and realities about female power are prominent. I don't want to write a full exposition about any of these thesis (tho I'm getting dangerously close to doing it), but when I reflect on the show as a whole, it is moving and terrifying on levels that go far deeper than murder. I am most haunted by Adora's story of being taken into the woods in the middle of the night by her own mother and left alone there for no reason, when she was just a little girl. The sheer horror of that abuse forces me to wonder what happened to Camille's grandmother, to make her so cruel. Is it the town's fault, after all? Is it about paying for the South's historical sins? For the sins of colonialism? Or for the sin of believing that women should be wonderful, warm and self-sacrificing mothers? I am going to stand behind the latter proposition. Some women should not be mothers. They should never try. It is not in every woman to want children. And we are still holding onto the taboo of the unfulfilled, childless woman -- a myth perpetuated by middle-aged, Wind Gap cheerleaders in Sharp Objects. These women verbalize a myth which is in violent contrasts to the ongoing reality of having children when you are unfit to be parent. Adora, her mother and Amma are the bi-product of purchasing this myth, without consideration. I know that I do not need to carry a child in my womb to feel compassion for children. The danger is when you don't know the truth about yourself, when you give into the ideal that a baby makes you a complete woman -- perhaps the emptiness is filled instead with poisonous resentment for having been born a woman at all. Maybe you will find yourself serving the lie with a teaspoon from a blue glass bottle to a new generation of sick women.
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    S04.E01: A House Divided

    Well, Mighty Peanut. You've had a lot of people resonate with your response to this episode and the scene between Daniel and Avery. I do, too. When I first watched that scene, I could not be consoled, which is what my husband thought I wanted. Instead, what I felt was an overwhelming flood of ... relief. For the first time, Daniel connects with his trauma, and has that "breakthrough" moment, which, for people struggling with complex PTSD, is an almost herculean moment of growth. I wanted to kiss the writer's feet, Aden's feet -- everyone involved in the making of that scene, I could feel my awe evolve into worship. That scene, for me, was a spiritual experience. Beyond moving. It stands apart from any attempt in art or media to explain such a specific moment of human intervention, bravery, and compassion. It was the first time I really thought, Jesus! Daniel is gonna be okay!! Oh, Looooord!!! Then I cried for like five years. I might still be crying. It's fine, guys. : )
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    S01.E07: Falling

    I also got a sort of like ... idk ... a less than sincere impression of John, during his post-coital dialogue with Camille. I just didn't dig the vibrations he was giving off in that moment. I mean, he's VERY hung up on the town being the reason for everything bad that's ever happened, and it's a little too on the nose for me. I started to get this uh-oh feeling in my guts, like he was about to slip up and say something that would make Camille's face go all scrunchy, and she would say something like, "Hold on, how do you know what time the bike was put into the pond?" (to be clear, that is absolutely not Sharp Objects dialogue; I'm inventing hypotheticals). Did anyone else get a weird, guilty vibe from John when they were lying in bed and shooting the shit about Wind Gap and the murders?
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    S01.E07: Falling

    This show, you guys. What amazes me is how well Amy Adams understands how a person who does not want to be seen or touched or "read" by anyone might react when someone like John disarms her. And bravo to the actor who plays John -- I could not have been more moved by this whole performance. "It's okay. It's okay. I want to see you," he whispers. The way that Camille sort of resists, but soon acquiesces; the way that John hugs and kisses her knees -- I mean, he really loves her in that moment. And when I say "love" I mean that he sees her pain, how much she has suffered and still suffers. What kind of pain must drive a person to cut words into her skin? And yet he finds the beauty in her pain, worthy of his compassion. He sees her. This moment of ecstatic release is immediately contrasted by John's arrest and Richard's reaction to finding them in bed together. I don't blame Richard -- you can see that he is unprepared by the betrayal. I don't think his feelings for Camille are fully realized until that moment. Richard loses control. Most people do not process rage well in the heat of the moment. But the verbal abuse he unleashes upon Camille as a result is simply devastating. And now that Camille "knows" what her mother is capable of, well, I'm terrified for her. The intuition she had about her mother when she was a girl -- refusing her "medicine" and attention -- means she always knew, in some way, that her mother was a dangerous person. But those intuitions are only ever felt until they become undeniably real. Camille is left at the end of this episode rejected, enraged, and reeling. None of those emotions create a stable mindset from which to act. But I fear she will not practice restraint, when it comes to her mother. For the first time in the series, I truly fear for Camille's life.
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    S01.E05: Harvest

    I mean... Thank you! (bad language ahead....) I'm all, like, what the fuck is this guy's mother-fucking deal, man...srsly. Why doesn't he seem worried that a lady he "doesn't know" says she can feel his feelings and knows his thoughts...whaaaaaa-?? ASK SOME QUESTIONS, DAMMIT. Hmmmm, I donno, things like...."Are you a crazy person??" or, "Tell me everything."
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    S01.E06: Cherry

    Oooooh, baby!! I love this theory....bc wouldn't the sheriff just do something like that? I feel like he's in love with Adora. And there's nothing he wouldn't do for her. LOVE. IT. (eeeeeeee!!)
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    Rectify: In The Media

    RECTIFY. FOREVER. The 50 best TV show seasons of all time, according to critics
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    S01.E06: Cherry

    Whether Camille was 14 or 17 when the rape occurred (I don't recall exactly), she could have become pregnant. Amma was not alive when Camille was a teenager -- perhaps you are confusing Amma with Camille's deceased half-sister, Marian, who died when both girls were in their teens. Marian is the ghost who shows up from time to time in Camille's visions and dreams. She's the one who held Camille's hand at the end of this episode and said, "It's not safe for you here." Marian has been dead for decades. Amma is very much alive, and around 15-yrs-old.
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    S01.E06: Cherry

    ooooooooooooh. hmmmmmmmmmmm. I wanna share a theory, here, one that I've only shared with my husband. (Full disclosure, I did not hear Amma say that, but it serves my theory VERY well.) I think Amma is Camille's daughter, probably from the rape in the woods.
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    S01.E06: Cherry

    I'd like to revise my statement and say that there is rape in this story. The town of Wind Gap is founded on rape culture -- all the way back to Calhoun Day. And I have never heard of such a despicable tradition, where a high school football team takes a "willing" cheerleader into the woods, for some good old fashion, turn-based sex. Wind Gap is raping it's youth with its warped stories, its secrets, and its lies. It is a wicked little predatory town. None are safe there.
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    S01.E06: Cherry

    I think we all need to dispel with the rape speculation. The bottom line is, what happened in those woods was wrong. It was wrong for the boys and it was wrong for Camille. We are talking about one event in which half a dozen adolescent males had sex with a single, adolescent female. Would it be worse if the sex was overtly "non-consensual"? Yes, of course. But we've already established that their ages alone rule out the possibility for sexual emancipation and maturity---I think we can all agree that a bunch of 16-yr-olds are not mature or responsible enough to participate in a consensual orgy. In fact, I would argue that the event was traumatic for all of the children. Sure, it's easy to lay blame on the teenaged boys. But boys at that age are not sexually or emotionally mature, either. And the pressure to prove sexual dominance and conquest is much greater for them, than it is for their female peers. Let's consider the one boy (now a man) who seems genuinely troubled by what happened. He is disturbed. He wants to apologize to Camille. He wants to talk about it. Because he feels how wrong it was --- the mob mentality, combined with alcohol and raging hormones --- it was more of a sexual frenzy, than sex. Perhaps every one of these children was a victim of this event, however to varying degrees.
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    S01.E06: Cherry

    This show is fucking me up so much. God. Dammit.
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    S01.E05: Closer

    LoL You get it, girl!
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    S01.E05: Closer

    Okay. While I tooootally understand where you're coming from, I am at this point 100% convinced that Adora is a Vindictive Narcissist -- the kind you want to run away from like you're being chased by a swarm of killer bees. There are different levels of narcissism in everyone, some of which is perfectly healthy (a little self-absorption/ -obsession is natural), and some of which transforms into pathological, behavioral, and abusive. According to Joseph Burgo, Ph.D., there are in fact five sub-types of Extreme NPD, the worst of which is the Vindictive Type: Camille is a threat to Adora for reasons that might not yet be apparent to us. I feel certain by now that at the very least, Adora perceives Camille as a threat to her status in the Wind Gap community, where she is accustomed to controlling nearly everything -- the jobs, the events, hell she even controls the law! So. Camille's presence as an investigative journalist who wants to expose the deep fissures of corruption and dysfunction in Adora's sick little kingdom might as well be inviting hell-fire and damnation from her mother. But Camille....doesn't really know...not exactly...how much her mother loathes her. Until Adora comes out and says it. There's no better reason to stop believing, to stop trying, to finally realize, "Shit. This bitch really can't stand me. Screw her. Okay, I guess I can leave and never come back forever baai!" That seismic shift in understanding is a gift. A terribly bitter gift, to be sure, but it's a gift nevertheless. Because Adora can't change and never will. It's Camille who must let go. Look. My mother died last year very quickly and very suddenly of advanced cancer. And I was on the fence about what to do... make amends? Maybe? Finally? I admit that I was open to the idea, but I had serious reservations that it could ever happen. Then, with her last breath, after I told her that she was the most beautiful woman I had every met, and a magnificent force of nature, she replied, "You....are a magnificent bitch." Then she closed her eyes, smiled, and flippin died. Know what? I drove away from that hospice a free woman, for the first time in my whole life. And I consider her last words a gift, probably the only gift she ever gave me. My conscience was clear.
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    S01.E05: Closer

    I misspoke in my first post in this thread: For the first time in the series, Adora does Camille a kindness. The truth is, I never loved you. This is the truth that Camille needs to hear from her mother. While those words sound impossibly cruel and cold on the face of it, at least they have the power to shatter the mother myth for Camille, once and for all. They certainly have an immediately devastating effect on her, but I think with time, she'll come to accept that Adora never did love her, and that she in fact understood it along. Of course, I was initially gutted for poor Camille. But that pain subsided into relief. Because maybe she can finally get past the maternal love fantasy, and get on with the real possibility that love exists. I think Camille has what it takes to reclaim her life. That is my newest and best hope for our so badly damaged protagonist -- to find a little bit of true love for herself. And forgiveness.
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    S01.E05: Closer

    Fair. I guess I'm of a certain age where I don't see how I could possibly use that word in a positive way -- I especially dislike it when woman call other women sluts in a pejorative way. But it gives me hope to know that young women are reclaiming any word that once worked against us. Why not?
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    S01.E05: Closer

    I was too lazy to shazaam it, but I also wanna know which song was playing as soon as the end-credits rolled...I believe there were two... I didn't care for the second one. (shift) I would hate to ride the coattails of another user (i.e. @PENMAN61) who has already tactfully pointed out the folly of assuming Camille was "loose" -- but may I add that I don't think anyone wants to hear the word "slut" to describe anyone, in the year 2018? I don't. I really, really don't. I don't think I'm being too precious by rejecting that word, which (when I hear it) sounds like hate-speech on par with homophobic slang. Please, choose your words more carefully, so as not to obscure what might otherwise be valid insight, with unnecessarily ugly rhetoric. When someone says, "To me, she was just a slut" all I hear is, "I don't respect women," and I stop listening.
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    S01.E05: Closer

    The only thing that Adora can do or say that would surprise me, would be if she extended even the slightest compassion toward her eldest daughter. So, why does Camille scream into her dress in the dressing room? Try overwhelming, abject humiliation, which happens to be my least favorite emotion. Later on, when Camille tells her editor (who I am more and more convinced is really her father) that being in Wind Gap makes her feel like a bad person -- that's pretty much all you need to know about Adora's catastrophic mothering. I have more to say about the episode, but I really must re-watch it when I'm not falling asleep on a red-eye back east.
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    S01.E03: Fix

    If everyone thinks Amy Adams looks like day-old garbage, I'm really concerned about the state of my own face.
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    S01.E03: Fix

    I don't wanna tell people what to do or how to watch, but I'm trying to avoid analyzing stuff as it relates to the murders. I think a lot of what we're seeing is meant to be "surreal", or straight unbelievable, and if we consider Camille the main "protagonist", well....her perception and memory are not exactly reliable resources for cold, hard facts. No one's really is, if you think about it. Some shows are character dramas in disguise. I think this is one of those shows.
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    S01.E03: Fix

    Thank you for sharing that. It seems such a simple thing, and I imagine that anyone who achieves intimacy with a primary figure (especially their mother) will take that intimacy for granted. It's natural for a mother to want to see and know a child. It's the very first step towards real attachment. But even to pause for a second and realize that something like a simple exchange between your mother, one which gave you even the smallest comfort and grounding, simply never happens between children and N-parents. It's totally foreign. I will speak personally and say that the strong will to be seen and cherished for who I am made it possible for me to eventually achieve intimacy, but it took a lot of hard and painful work to get there. Camille's self-harm in all of its manifestations is extremely painful to watch. This week's episode was especially difficult, because, despite her reluctance to open up and connect with her young roommate, she does. And it results in yet another unbearable, painful loss that drives her deeper into catastrophic grief and self-blame. I have no doubt that she blames herself for this girl's death -- after all, she told her the truth about what to expect from her mother, over time. Alice should expect nothing, no improvement, not victories. Camille told Alice the truth, and the truth was too much for the young woman to bear. It's simply tragic, tragic, tragic. I mean. How much more validation does Camille need to prove what her mother has been telling her all along? She's dangerous.
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