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The lawyer couldn't even get his client's name right, he called him "Mr Jacobs" twice during the press conference clips. I can't stand the brother Frank and his wife, their smug smiles are so annoying. Glad they included a segment on Gloria's arrest, I hoped they would, poor woman. Also love Marsha, Jerry's 4th (?) wife. What was her line, there's no free lunches but sometimes there's some hidden brownies? lolol

(above is not so much a spoiler but a prediction) How is Shubam going to react when he sees his so honest BFF is a guy? Don't get the point of the mom being there, she should be doing the messaging for Ed. Joey really grated at first but he's not so bad now.

Brian being so mad at his wife (forget her name) for hiring the detective and finding out Zach isn't his was so odd.... you're mad she that she told you she found out this guy was lying to you, and you'd rather him keep lying to you? what?

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So what's with the double beds we are seeing Clay/Nicole etc. waking up in each morning? I thought the 'overnight' dates on the final night were the only time they actually got to spend the night together? Yes, agree about the messy bedroom! And how awful was it that only 8 BIPs were allowed to stay at the wedding, and the rest didn't meet the cut... how rude!

When Judy put on her coat and was escorted out, it showed her stacks of yellow legal pads were gone: did she/Ailes destroy them, or did Fox get their hands on them, or did the investigators, ???

Welp, DCFS has proved their case: "Doctors weaned her off all medications, and she is exhibiting no signs of schizophrenia. Jani testified in court that she does not believe she has the illness that made her famous."

That was her husband, not boyfriend. And even worse, it appears they're still together (according to Wikipedia at least...).

"Pamela Hupp will spend the rest of her life in prison, rather than continue fighting 2½-year-old murder charges." Yeehaw! Would have loved to hear what type of defense she'd put up though. Too bad she didn't also plead for Betsy Faria's murder, or her own mother's. Can't wait for the Dateline update on this; was it a Keith case or Josh?

I enjoyed it! No mention here yet of Will Ferrell? He and Kerry had great chemistry.

Loved that Stanford professor who smelled her bullshit right away. I wish the doc had mentioned her dog ("wolf") that she'd bring into the lab... what a weirdo. This is from the Vanity Fair article: "Around this same time, Holmes says that she discovered that Balto—like most huskies—had a tiny trace of wolf origin. Henceforth, she decided that Balto wasn’t really a dog, but rather a wolf. In meetings, at cafés, whenever anyone stopped to pet the pup and ask his breed, Holmes soberly replied, “He’s a wolf.” .... "And for the rest of the day, Balto would stroll through the labs with his owner. Holmes brushed it off when the scientists protested that the dog hair could contaminate samples."

The Monica cartoon with the dicks as microphones was disgusting, can't believe a publication would use that. Where she is today is amazing, after going through all that.

Not only that, he's realized Fleiss etc. have contributed to his humiliation by flying in Cassie's dad who of course wanted her to break up with him. They facilitated it and they were duplicitously planning it behind his back while he was doing his happy smiley ITMs and getting ready to bone Cassie. They knew he'd be heartbroken, and to him they've been his only friends and confidantes this past month. How can he trust these monsters?

Oh, Mona the real estate agent. Telling Christine the house would sell in a month. Ah to dream.... At least Christine owned it last night:

Well, now I bet Hannah Big Tooth is on track to be B'ette, since they removed the scenes of her showing up to talk to Colton... don't want the lead looking too desperate and crazy.

I have so much to say about Kody and his parenting after watching this season's ep 3 (on demand). Can't wait til it's broadcast and the ep thread for that opens ... he is the worst father ever.

But that's not even true - didn't her mom contribute to the downpayment with the proceeds from her house sale? So really, she AND HER MOM did it.

Hmmm. So last night Kody tweeted: ...to which Meri replied (and has since deleted) something about "so what is the truth Kody, please tell us". Kody's reply to her (showing Meri deleted her tweet)...

Definitely not a Meri apologist here, but that could be anyone's arm, including Jackie's....

One of our very own posters stayed at the (in)famous B&B last summer... read the recap here! What I wouldn't give to be a fly on their wall at a Brown episode viewing when they (well, Meri) sees everyone else's one-on-one interviews and learns they really think about her.

OMG yes I was trying to place her! She was the one with the two other sisters and the dad, right? miss that show

I don't know why they thought getting to Canada would make them home free, the story was huge here in Eastern Canada too. They'd have been recognized and probably caught at the border anyway, and extradited. Interesting how the show changed Tilly's son's (and ex-husband's) name.

Should have linked it. OK TBH, maybe she didn't create it herself, but who else would?

Totally agree. Did they mention on this episode that Sam was found in the attic of another theater? I read in a news story that Dan lured Sam to that theater to kill him because it was on an army base that had an incinerator - which was why Dan dismembered Sam to get rid of his body that way. The original Dateline was 2 hours, can't believe they crammed this new version, with all the updates, into one hour. They should have reversed it: original being 1 hour, this one being two. I remember the first episode going more into Wesley, the kid who ordered pizza - why?? I do recall thinking Rachel was totally involved though, she's not as good an actress as she thought. Get this: Rachel has made herself an IMDB page, with her only credits as being 'self' on the Dateline and 20/20 eps relating to this story. Sick.

Here's a Variety article on how Ben Stiller was able to film at Dannemora. Also an Albany article on how the show got the Upstate NY details right. Another article about a former Clinton inmate who worked with Matt and Sweat in the tailor shop and became a consultant for Ben Stiller on the show: https://theoutline.com/post/6612/escape-from-dannemora-clinton-correctional-facility-prison-break?zd=1&zi=3rqrkssj