["The View": Week of 10/19/2020]

3 minutes ago, Haleth said:

That cop should have known better. 

He probably did know better. He just didn't care.

["The View": Week of 10/19/2020]

28 minutes ago, Haleth said:

I was doing something else but did Sunny dismiss the cop at the election site wearing the trump mask as no big deal?  Um, it’s illegal, Sunny!  He should have been turned away or told to turn the mask inside out. 

And also correct me if I'm wrong but isn't law enforcement not supposed to campaign for a political candidate while on duty?

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1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And I don't know if this is unpopular (Still bitter this show was vaulted to a single thread), but I'm so, so, so, sick and tired of the Israel/Palestine story lines. I don't give any good goddamns about the pseudo-fictional and preaching I get from these episodes. So...fast forward it is.

I much preferred when the storylines were about the characters and how they dealt with what was happening.  I didn't need to hear all the details.  

 

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I'm not a fan of John Welles' writing. Like Sorkin, he wrote a good number of scripts. But I will NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVERRRRRRRR Forgive him for greenlighting killing Admiral Fitzwallace! NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER!!!!!  

I loved Fitzwallace.  He was one of many of the great supporting characters.  Which also included.....

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Or for saddling me with that annoying Kate and getting rid of Anna Deavere Smith's Nancy McNally (NSA Director). McCormack gets to be in the opening credits and Anna doesn't??!!!

I absolutely love Anna. She is such a good actress that you can't help but just be so captivated by any character she plays.  I watched American President last week and she was an aid to the president and I thought how nice she got promoted on the West Wing.

[The West Wing - General Discussion]

10 hours ago, BW Manilowe said:

But it still bugs when writers have to work around an actor’s reduced work schedule—expected or not—& they can’t come up with a clever line for another actor to toss in about why the missing character isn’t in the episode that week. You’d think, if they were clever enough to write the rest of the script they could come up with *1* more, SHORT, stinking line explaining the whereabouts of *1*, usually ever present, character in an ep.

I think it was one of the Friends books that quoted a writer as saying he never paid attention to previous scripts when writing his scripts. If more writers are like him then that explains inconsistencies and fucked up continuity on tv shows.

I also think a lot of TV writers/producers think poorly of the viewers. That we won't notice things or we won't care when something makes absolutely no sense.  Before the internet they could get away with that but with the ability to criticize what we see onscreen in real time viewers have a voice now.  Of course that doesn't mean they will listen to  us.

When the West Wing was on the internet of course existed but it was before social media.  I think if it aired now it would be discussed on  Twitter and plots would have to be marked as spoilers until people had a chance to watch the next episode online.  I can clearly see a scene with Toby trying to explain to President Bartlett how to tweet and him resisting him becoming exasperated.

[Sunny Hostin: The Former Federal Prosecutor With the Facts!]

16 hours ago, bannana said:

Sunny was the least paid of the co-hosts!? Does that mean Abby and Jed and MeAgain made more than Sunny?

https://news.yahoo.com/sunny-hostin-confronting-discrimination-abc-161821467.html

I wonder if Sunny had a contract with ABC the network and not specifically the View.  I think Sara has that type of contract.  

I wasn't watching the View when Sunny first starting appearing but I remember reading here she would not be on for a few days here and there and no mention on air as to why.  If what Sunny says is true and I have no reason not to believe her it seems like ABC didn't think she was someone they had to treat well.   

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15 hours ago, Rainyhawk said:

Tbh, I liked that they included something lighter.  The past 4 years of solid politics are taking its toll.  That said, I’ve felt like the past weeks without MM have made the political discussions more palatable.  I hope they eventually return to adding lighter subjects in the shows.  If I want an hour of serious political talk, there are many many shows I can watch with actual experts.  That’s not why I watch the view.  

A famous person getting caught masturbating on a zoom call being a lighter topic than politics tells the current sad state of our country.

 

14 hours ago, RealHousewife said:

I haven’t watched today’s episode yet, but does the modern technology make anyone else nervous sometimes? I try to put screens down before changing and things like that just to be safe. It’s amazing how nonchalant some people are. Even sexy selfies make me nervous. I’m always scared I’ll send them to the wrong person. 

I always assume someone is watching or listening to me.  It's scary but unfortunately the genie was let out of the bottle once people started having smart phones attached to their hands.  Back in the day you had to boot up your computer, wait for it to connect and then surf the net. When  you were done you turned it off and it disconnected.  But now devices are on 24/7 and even if  you aren't  using it it is probably using you.

17 hours ago, OnTime said:

 

I guess CNN is done with him now.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8860233/Jeffrey-Toobin-fathered-son-young-lawyer-visited-swingers-c

I just recently found out about the son from an extramarital affair which Ok things happen but he initially denied paternity until a DNA test proved him to be the father.  And now swingers clubs?  Maybe Sunny is right.  He does have a very serious problem.

[The West Wing - General Discussion]

2 hours ago, deaja said:

I think I read that it was a budget issue, but I wish they had at least referred to them more.  Like make it seem like they were just in the next room somehow.

TV shows are horrible at this.  Whenever a character should be onscreen but isn't due to some offscreen issue (budget, actor unavailable) they make their absence more glaring by simply not mentioning it.   Like you said casually say they are in another room or say Liz's kids came down with chicken pox or something.

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Was Sunny wearing a pajama top?  

Regarding Jeffrey Toobin, to quote Joy so what who cares?  Was it gross? Yes. Did he do it intentionally? As far as we know no.  I'm much more concerned about the men who expose themselves to people on purpose.

[Joy Behar: "So Whaat? Who Caaaares?"]

She says fuck a few times.  Gotta love her for that.  I don't know how she censors herself on the show.

[Meghan McCain: "Both Sides" Wannabe Tough Chick]

8 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

No Meghan nobody is listening to you.

[The West Wing - General Discussion]

On 10/16/2020 at 11:30 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

While I understand there is a host of other reasons to dislike him, I think it's because I like Bradley Whitford, that I put up with him. Then of course, I fast forward all his scenes with Donna, so that could be why I don't hate him.

I love me some Bradley Whitford.  I liked Josh.  He would irritate me sometimes but there wasn't a character that didn't irritate me.  Am I mistaken thinking Josh was based on Rahm Emmanuel?

On 10/16/2020 at 11:30 AM, GHScorpiosRule said:

And I don't know why Amy rubs me the wrong way, but she does.

I didn't like Amy and I'm not sure if it was the character or Mary Louise Parker playing her that caused my dislike. I lean toward it being MLP.  I loved Weeds but didn't like her character there either.

["The View": Week of 10/12/2020]

Did we know before she told us today that Ana was quarantining after being exposed to covid?

 

So Sara gives props for Trump for not being as bad as he was in the first debate? I guess when you are looking for any silver lining you will find something.

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When Jimmy Kimmel was talking about Who Wants to Be a Millionaire he said they are having a lot of front line workers as guests and said these people have a chance to win 6 times what they take home in a year.  Did I  hear him correctly?  I don't know too many front line workers that make $166,000 a year.

[Meghan McCain: "Both Sides" Wannabe Tough Chick]

15 hours ago, Badbea99 said:

Yep, I saw her tweet.  Matthew Dowd called her out after she tweeted that the cancellation of the October 15th debate would hurt democracy and the American people still had questions which need to be answered by both candidates.  Matthew correctly pointed out that Biden was willing to go ahead with a virtual format and Trump refused and it needed to be said who was responsible for the cancellation.  She took offense and replied that she had given birth 12 days prior and wasn't there for Twitter drama.  Mind you she was the one that tweeted about the debate's cancellation and he replied.  Her having given birth didn't stop her from tweeting a 'both sides' type of argument and she didn't take kindly for being called out.  The perpetual victim never takes responsibility for anything she says or does.

She tweets something and someone politely responds correcting what she said and Meghan gets pissy and takes her ball home.  She simply cannot handle anyone telling her she is wrong.  I'm no psychologist but I'm guessing she was pampered as a child and didn't hear the word no too often.

[Meghan McCain: "Both Sides" Wannabe Tough Chick]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

Yeah, I'll be that person and happily sit at my table for one:

So what?

Make room for me.  If Meghan is genuinely happy then good for her. But my personal opinion is she is doing what is expected of her as a conservative, as a Republican as a blah blah blah.  My prediction is when she comes back to the show she will say very little about her daughter.  

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1 minute ago, TheGreenKnight said:

Maybe it's sort of like that myth about how two ugly people equals a beautiful child or two beautiful people equals an ugly child. In this case, two halfway nice and/or likable people equals a monster. Meghan practically has anti-charisma

Also brings up the whole nature vs nurture argument.

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21 minutes ago, Cozytea said:

I'm so disappointed in NBC.  I watch MSNBC all the time. I agree with Ana  they are totally giving in to him.

All you need to do is read Ronan Farrow's book to know what kind of people run NBC.

The media especially tv has become just awful.  They are trying to compete with online media and social media which is all about clicks and likes.  It is horrifying to watch because any truth is being lost among a seas of lies and misinformation.

[The West Wing - General Discussion]

1 hour ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And as others have said, this was the BEST introduction of any character! I LOOOOOVED Martin Sheen here. And ESPECIALLY loved Bartlett telling Al and that HORRID Mary Marsh: "You'll denounce these people, Al. You'll do it publicly. And until you do, you can all get your fat asses out of my White House."

OH SNAP!!!!!!

 

Oh the good old days. When religious bigots were put in their place.

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Aaron Sorkin is 59 yrs. old. How did he not know who the Chicago 7 were?  I'm 52 and was a toddler when the trial happened and I have known about them for years.

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Sunny is right. Trump doesn't care about actually helping people suffering from the pandemic. He wants to send out checks with his name on them.  I know where I live when the first stimulus checks were sent out tattoo parlors were packed. Walmart was sold out of big screen TVs.  

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If Sunny thinks Amy Coney Barrett is going to keep an open mind once on the SCOTUS bench she must have been sharing some of Whoopi's stash.  Everything this woman has said previously tells us her philosophy.  If I may quote Maya Angelou, when someone shows us who they are believe them.  

[The West Wing - General Discussion]

47 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

The point of that whole convoluted story is that, watching it as someone who has the same type of MS, I'm not as angry as Toby and CJ were; nor do I think he perpetrated a fraud, because MS isn't fatal--unless you have the more aggressive strains. I mean, the level of rage is just...I don't know the way to describe it, just seemed...a bit too much?

I agree that their reaction seemed to be an overreaction.  I justified it by thinking they were mad because their jobs could be in jeopardy.  

48 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I swear, Leo's was the most relatable and believable reaction to me.

Didn't Leo already know? It's been awhile since I have seen this particular season.

49 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

I can't pin down my one and only favorite character because there's more than one, flaws and all: CJ, Bartlett, Charlie, and Sam.

I don't know if I ever had a favorite character.  Out of the main characters I liked all of them except Toby.  I could never warm up to him.  At various times I loved all of them for one reason or another.    Although I had a major soft spot for Leo because I had a major soft spot for John Spencer.

6 minutes ago, Moose135 said:

Sorry about that!  I never had HBO, so I only saw a few random episodes of Sorkin's The Newsroom when it first aired. I got the first season DVDs when they came out, and stayed up until 4am one night finishing the last few episodes. I paid for it at work the next day, but it was so worth it!

I loved the Newsroom. I have enjoyed all of Sorkin's shows.

 

["The View": Week of 10/12/2020]

When Joy told Cindy how nice it was to see a Republican put country over party she had to have been referring to Meghan.  And even if she wasn't I'm sure Meghan thought she was.  

I was never a fan of Cindy but when she was talking about how she had a pity party for herself after her husband died and watched too much Lifetime Television and gained the covid 15 lbs she sounded very genuine.  Her daughter is nothing like her.

And we found out from Joy that baby Liberty looks like her mom's side of the family.  So she must have seen a pic.

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3 minutes ago, Rainyhawk said:

If you're talking about Totally Under Control I understood it was on HBO Max

 

It airs on demand this week and is available on HULU starting next Tuesday.

 

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15 minutes ago, Axie said:

I'm not sure how Meghan escaped inheriting her mother or father's like ability factor.  She doesn't seem to be like either one of them.

There a few theories about this.  

One she started hanging around the wrong people.

Two she is just a selfish spoiled privileged brat.

Three both one and two.