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When did Ziva have the opportunity to rip out a page from the journal. I thought it was either in Bishop's or Gibbs' possession by then. And how did Ziva manage to track the status of NCIS' investigation?

Bishop can't afford to keep this secret. As soon as Gibbs finds out, she's fired. Did Ziva also abandon her daughter? If so, not cool, and it destroys the Ziva mystique for me.

I'm saying what I'm doing for my health, which was the purpose of this thread. And I'm saying be open to doing the research for yourself because so much of what we have been spoonfed is wrong or incomplete. I offered a way to avoid sunburns. In addition, by making sure you have plenty of early morning and late afternoon sun you can build up a sun callus that helps protect against midday sun. I'm not talking about a tan. It's conditioning of the skin the way we were designed/evolved to do. And it helps you get the much greater sun exposure you need for health. Because the science has shown up for a long time that the sun is our friend. Too many people with melanoma got that way because they didn't get enough of the right kind of sun. We need more Vitamin D and we need to figure out how to do that. Megadoses of Vitamin D in supplemental form often don't help. That should be a clue there must be another way. But we also need more natural sunlight for all the reasons we have opsins throughout our skin. They are there for a reason. Even if you can't buy into that, we still to mitigate the amount and type of artificial light we expose ourselves to. It isn't controversial that night shift work is bad for our health. It isn't controversial that blue light by itself is bad for our health. Technology is going to make all of this much harder so we need to develop personal plans, what might work for our individual circumstances. That's my hope for fellow forum members.

There's a good app called dminder that people can use to manage the amount of Vitamin D exposure they received and avoid sunburn. I plan to try it out next summer as I expose myself as much as possible. There are even clothes made from material that looks like fabric but lets sunlight penetrate. Like Cooltan.com. The fabric is sheer, but it's a way to get sun on your girls or junk or nethers without neighbors screaming that you're naked. It's a way to *avoid* cancer.

There is plenty on the internet if you start researching for yourself. An example from a peer reviewed medical journal: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24697969

You must assume everyone lives as far south as you do. People in the northern states on the whole have pathologically low levels of Vitamin D and they're likely outside at least 10 minutes somewhere in the course of the day. Exposing your cheeks under a parka midwinter isn't going to cut it. Aside from Vitamin D, we have photoreceptors throughout our skin, not just in our retinas, and we need as much of it exposed as possible so melanopsin and other opsins can work. It is how we were designed. But the main point is that sunlight is our friend if we don't abuse it (by only exposing ourselves at high noon), and the advice we have had for years to be afraid of it has been making us sick. That's where science is but medicine hasn't caught up to it.

It's truly amazing how much degradation Whitney allows from TLC, including the brilliant episode names. It might be the most hypocritical thing about her, given her lifelong pursuit of no fat shaming, so casually puts up with this (and from her mother) but not even a hint of it from anyone else.

Actually, if you look into it, studies and meta-analyses consistently show that all cause mortality and morbidity go DOWN with increased sun exposure. There may be more skin cancer but more people do not die. Sunlight is critical to our health but we need it at various times of the day, not just midday, to set the circadian clock that runs everything in our body, including our thermostat that drives energy expenditure (calories out). So make sure you get enough general sun exposure WITHOUT any sunscreen, makeup, glasses of any kind, and as few clothes as possible. Contrary to what the dermatology idiots have been telling us for years. It's partly that your health depends on a good level of Vitamin D, and that comes from exposure to UVB light, unfortunately not supplements, because to be activated it needs to be sulfated and that is from UVB. To the extent you thought all that walking and running in your neighborhood helped you maintain or lose weight, you probably never gave credit to the value of the sunlight from being outside. Meanwhile, don't mess it up with artificial light, especially blue light in the evening. It destroys the clock and hormone production. I'm wearing blue-blocking glasses on a computer with blue-blocking software (IRIS) as I type this, LOL.

S'mores are just an excuse to eat Hershey's chocolate bars, so why not gobble the bars directly. I'll take mine with almonds, please.

She has never trotted in her life, she wouldn't be smiling, and no one would be risking their life keeping ahead of her in the middle of the road.

No chance Whitney would even half seriously box with anyone. It could mess up her face far beyond what photoshop could fix for her.

At what point would you expect TLC to drop her? Does this mean there are 1/4 million disciples of this forum who have sworn off watching this show?

I was just thinking of Whit's double dipping and whether Babs would have allowed that in her kitchen. But then families tend to share the same germs so maybe it wouldn't have bothered her. But Babs could have drilled into Whitney she wasn't allowed to do that around anyone else.

Can't we blame Babs for at least a little of this vile behavior?

That would be delicious to watch, because Judge Judy's snark at these two losers would rival anything we have come up with!

WTF did Todd allow her pudgy hands on his junk? He was supposed to be the snarky voice of reason. Not sure I trust him any more.

That was one of my favorite Seinfeld episodes - Elaine complaining that she couldn't land this really luscious gay guy because, well, for many reasons she had to say very carefully on broadcast tv, LOL. For Whitney, any challenge that is also pornographic will be high on her To Do list.

That's silly. We ALL know her worst nightmare - TLC cancellation slip.

Dot, I'm so sorry you're going through this. I hope you find some relief. There are different chiropractic techniques, some far more gentle than others. Maybe you could interview the local practitioners by phone to get a sense of how they would approach it.

Jeez. Whitney, are you paying attention?

Then any of us making snarky comments on her and the show's SM must remind her of her foxy mother. Go for it!

That there was so much resemblance between Whit and Babs, and that Babs was such a fox and Whit never was, I believe is behind a great deal of the dysfunction and passive aggressiveness of this family.

Is Heather devastated enough to eviscerate Whitney and spit on the pieces? That I would watch!

From what I read recently, PCOS is a complex and there isn't full agreement on what symptoms constitute PCOS. But she does seem to have a lot of indicators of it so I'm ok she labels herself PCOS, but not at all that she uses it as a crutch. I would say the insulin resistance came first, though, and that is what she needs to focus on. PCOS is just a subset of insulin resistance which can hurt her in so many other ways.

Endometrial cancer is what I have expected in Whitney's not distant future, and that it won't be found until rather large. But all she could worry about was diabetes.