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I'm annoyed that every male character on this show was only nice to R and L bc they were related to them or wanted in their pants.
That includes Chris and Luke who pretty much were into Rory mostly as a means to get to Lorelai.
But we are supposed to like these guys?
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I think she left after the Jason thing because Richard again had gone against her and partnered with him, then he risked their entire financial future to capitalize the company and didn't tell her, and finally he went back to Lloyd despite everything. The not telling her part was just another straw on the camel's back of his ongoing deception and disrespect.
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40 minutes ago, Katy M said:
He may have. My father's mother was the same way. Hated my mom and let everybody know it. Not sure why my mom ever let her in the house. And, don't even get me started on when all three grandparents would be over at the same time for holidays. Oh, how I hated holidays.
Anyone talking like that would not be allowed in my home.
Period.
In fact, my father-in-law's wife (not my MIL - long-divorced) is such a psycho b***** to everyone (except me - don't know why), she is not allowed in my home. She has not even been rude to me and I won't let her in. I can't understand letting in people who are directly rude to your loved ones.
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15 hours ago, MatildaMoody said:
I just rewatched the Bracebridge Dinner episode. It really bugged me that everyone treated Emily like she was overreacting to Richard quitting his job without telling her. I feel like she had every reason to be upset about it. Not because of the loss of income, but because that's just something you talk to your spouse about beforehand. I get it that it was a spur of the moment decision on Richard's part, but I don't understand why he wouldn't at least tell Emily immediately afterward. I think there were times when Richard's bad behavior was brushed over in favor of making Emily the bad guy. There are plenty of instances of this throughout the season, but this was one that really stood out to me.
I think Richard was a real jerk to his wife...a lot.
Letting his mother treat her like crap.
The whole P Lott lunch thing.
Diminishing/minimizing her activities/contributions. The condescension.
Never consulting her/talking to her about career decisions.
Hitting her with a car??!!!
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12 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:
The reason I give him credit is because as a 17-year-old, he handled things better than Dean did as a legal adult at age 19/20 with Rory and Lindsey, and better than Lorelai did as a 30-something adult with Luke and Christopher - after both of them acted like Jess had no redeeming value.
Oh, yes. We can always find examples of other people acting worse than Jess did. Lorelai and Rory are the least likely candidates in my book of shining examples of outstanding humanity. In fact, I think they're kind of awful people with no insight to their own behavior.
On the whole, though, Jess is a pretty big jerk overall. If we just use decent people as a benchmark and not a couple of self-absorbed nitwits.
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He used Shane like a tissue and again is getting credit for acting like a normal human being and breaking up with her. We never saw it, so we don't even know how he did it.
Amazing.
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She strikes me as the kind of person who makes it all about it being someone else's fault.
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44 minutes ago, Katy M said:
That's a good point. I could see maybe Lorelei not being able to make it alllll the way to the inn without grabbing a coffee, but the food doesn't make a lot of sense. Rory might make slightly more sense where breakfast is concerned, because I remember a couple of times her meeting Lane there. After she switched schools, it would make sense for it to be important for them to meet up for breakfast and I remember Lane saying that Luke's was one of the few Mrs. Kim-approved places in town. Why, I'm not sure, although Lane did list out the reasons. No alcohol, OK, but there had to be other places with no alcohol.
Prolly bc Mrs Kim knew Luke was a no-nonsense curmudgeonly soulmate.
Lane was almost never at Luke's with them at breakfast. And she did go to the inn one morning before school (when Rory got cookies from Sookie to give Dean). So they could have all always eaten breakfast at the inn. Free. And probably healthier and better tasting.
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22 hours ago, scarynikki12 said:
Here's one that I don't think I've mentioned before but always drives me nuts. In The Breakup Part 2, Rory says that they can't go to Luke's on any of their usual or alternate routes. They can't go the regular way because Dean may be working at Doose's Market. They can't go another way because it will take them by the school and Dean may be playing football if he's not scheduled to work. They can't go yet another way because it's the street he lives on. All of that is fine and it's 100% a teenager thing to do this but it honestly makes no sense. Rory woke Lorelai up at 6am, Lorelai didn't shower (meaning she only needed minutes to get dressed), and they had a short talk in the kitchen about wallowing. That means that, at the latest, they're on their way to Luke's at around 630am. Rory even calls the crowd at the diner "the 6 am crowd" when Lorelai remarks on how many people are there. It's made clear to us that it's super early in the morning. Then why is Rory worried about running into Dean? Even if there's regularly a huge Saturday morning crowd I can't imagine Taylor would actually open Doose's before 7am and, even if he did, I doubt he'd schedule Dean that early. He's a pain but seems to be a fair boss. Also, I'd like to meet the group of teenage boys who voluntarily gather to play football before 7am. And in the cold? Not a chance. Rory's concern about going down Dean's street is the only one that actually works, since we see that he is up that early when he arrives at Luke's and they may have run into him if they'd taken that route. But, since logic makes their original and first alternate routes available to walk, going down his street also stops being a concern. The Ps could have gotten them in that alley if they'd just had the Girls do some of their list shopping and then walk to Luke's for lunch. Then it would be late enough for all of Rory's route concerns to make sense.
Oh, and I know Lorelai looks at Rory like she's lost her mind but I totally agree that you can learn a lot from someone based on their trash. Rory shouldn't have started looking through it but she's right on what it can reveal.
ETA: I just rewatched that whole scene and, after Luke throws Dean out of the diner and right when Lorelai and Rory start list shopping, there's even an old timey outdoor clock that shows the time as 627am. Makes it that much worse.
How can there be a Saturday 6am breakfast crew if Luke doesn't even get there till 6?
In order to cook, prep must be done, oil must be heated (that takes a good 20 minutes), etc.
Also, when Lorelai forgets to paint with Luke, she is at the diner at 0615. The diner says closed - be back at 0600 (Luke says he is late, but the sign does say 6).
Doesn't he live there? Where is he late from? Why is he opening it from outside? Why is it already light outside?
So many issues...
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It always bothered me that Rory and Lorelai don't know how their kitchen appliances work but Rory made a steak, mashed potatoes, and green beans for Dean.
Steak can be challenging to make well for an experienced cook. I suppose she could have used those disgusting potato buds to make the mashed potatoes.
I dunno. Suspect.
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1 hour ago, Kohola3 said:
Lawd, those writers really hated that character in season 6. It was downright sad.
And for every "brutish" thing he did, he did something equally sweet. Helping Lorelai break the bells, honoring his dad, taking in Jess, agreeing to meet the Gilmores despite knowing how they'd treat him and being unfailingly polite to them, Thanksgiving dinner for the girlw, and many more including the "pull the sausage" bit.
I would not say "for every." His being a dick on a daily basis far outpaced his sweet moments. God, when he yelled at that old woman about his boat...sheesh.
And some people (Luke is like this) do a lot of things out of obligation to duty more than bc they really want to.
While that is not a bad trait - honoring your perceived obligations - it's not exactly the same as doing something from the heart. Which is probably why he bitched and moaned about the funeral, Jess, his sister, almost every event with the Gilmores, etc.
2 hours ago, FictionLover said:You are right on all accounts. He also storms off like a child when he’s mad. But yet, I like him with a total understanding why some don’t. I guess it’s his softness towards the Gilmore Girls that gets me. Saying no to things but he does it anyway, especially if one of them is hurt; “you can pull link sausage out of me”.
Luke and Jess get a lot of credit from fans for what basically passes as normal human decency. It's weird. Especially since most of that "wonderful" behavior is directed at the people they want to sleep with.
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1 hour ago, ZuluQueenOfDwarves said:
More likely her lip-reading skills weren’t up to snuff.
When it pans back to her, she's not even looking.
Meanwhile, Taylor is staring directly towards Luke and Lorelai and making the most overpronounced word faces.
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When Taylor is talking to Luke on the phone and staring at him through the glass, I have a hard time believing Lorelai wouldn't be watching and lip-reading the obvious stuff he was saying.
Especially since it was so weird Luke took the call in the first place.
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In Kropogs, no way Rory's hair looks that smooth and glossy after riding in a convertible. Esp not at highway speeds (but even neighborhood speed).
Had convertibles and shoulder-length hair all my life. And the Porsche's wind screen is vestigial at best (not that Logan had his on). Mercedes does a better job of installing one that actually makes a difference, but even then your hair will be ruffled if not outright tangled.
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The word you're looking for is "douche."
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6 hours ago, andromeda331 said:
I haven't either for the same reasons. Yeah, I've heard how great it is and the awards its won. But I remember how she trashed her last season and how much I hated the revival. I don't want to get invested in another one of her shows for that to happen again.
I ain't supporting that sanctimonious, smug psycho.
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On 9/28/2018 at 5:02 PM, Taryn74 said:
SO frustrating. I hate AVV with undying passion. It's the worst of the worst for Luke IMO.
Actually, it's super concentrated Luke, which is very telling and why I don't like him as a person (though I enjoy his character) at all. There is nothing inconsistent with his character in that episode; it's just all smooshed together so you can see it more clearly.
Crabby Luke is a lot easier to like when he's peddling one-liners for seconds in the diner. This is extended play Luke and you see the negativity wears thin. I know people who are exactly like this and only amusing in small doses.
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Does Rush ever find out about Samantha being gay? I feel like that would be an amazing scene!
You're right, that would be great! IDK why, because he's a pretty reliably an asshole, but I imagine him actually being supportive and ripping on Steve for being a dick.
Also, there's no way the tobacco company would want to hire low-rent ambulance-chasing Matt.
hahahahahaha true
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One is the Loneliest Number: Unpopular GG Opinions
in Gilmore Girls
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Luke: Here is your birthday surprise...er, where's your mom?
Agree about Jackson.
Doyle's presence and "friendship" was entirely circumstantial.
Michel was gay.
Zach, etc, were not their friends. Just people they encountered.