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Give some predictions for the next season 3, for Anne with an E. There seems to be a setup from season 1 and S2 where Josie Pye already got her period and her bosoms are growing and she wants to be so mature in S1. Then in S2 Josie flirts with Cole and later she sends a secret written message over to Billy Andrews, so I suspect that Josie will turn up pregnant in S3, and Billy's family will not be happy about it. Then of course Anne will get right in the middle of the entire drama, probably with Ms Stacy involved too. So does anyone else have a prediction for S3 ?

I did not see that guy as being ashamed (though he might have been) as I saw him as regretting and sorrowful which is near the same as ashamed. This had me think of Bash as "turning the other cheek" because the man would not have regretted hitting Bash if Bash has responded or reacted angry or hostile in return. There was also the implication that Bash still had a sore jaw from the tooth and the stitches and that Bash was still lightheaded from the painkiller Laudanum, so Bash was not in any mood to be fighting that man, and yet it still shows that by "turning the other cheek" instead of fighting back can work wonders. I say they showed enough about Prissy to reject Mr Phillips at the alter, but it also showed a lot about Mr Phillips to inform Prissy that the marriage was not to go on. She saw the way he kept after Cole and she saw how he treated Anne and he was a bit cold to Prissy. One scene that I saw as interesting is when Mr Phillips finally kissed Prissy in the backroom where no one saw them, is that there was a sign on the wall that read something like this = "Rules for Teachers" - because a teacher is not really to be getting into a romantic relationship with a student. The scene where the 4 girls danced a circle around Prissy in the snow was simply gorgeous, picture HERE .

The big point is that Marilla was correct (and she said) that this party was not fitting for Anne to attend, and Anne tricked her way into going based on her deception, and Matthew had no real idea of what he was sending Anne into, so Anne was wrong to defy and undermine her adopted custodial step-parent, especially while Marilla was taken ill. On the side of that - Aunt Jo had no right to introduce Dianna or Anne to that kind of lifestyle without the full understanding and consent of their parents - Aunt Jo violated boundaries and it could be viewed as child abuse. It is noteworthy that the writing of most of season 2 was not done by the same writer of season 1, Moira Walley-Beckett wrote all of season 1,, and the last 2 episodes of S2 are written by Moira Walley-Beckett where she introduces a cool Ms Stacey and she puts the character of Cole out of town, and hopefully he will continue by moving off to France. I did like the flashbacks for Marilla and Mathew, and I noticed a super cool thing which is that in the Sullivan version of AoGG with Megan Fallows, it has a picture on the wall of Mathew and Marilla's mother, and she looked exactly like the woman shown in this episode of Anne with an E, and so some one must have paid attention to that detail.

You have that mixed up with the Sullivan version of AoGG (link HERE), but in this new Netflix version Matthew keeps on living into season 3, and we do not know what happens next yet. I am happy that this new revised version of AoGG has Matthew living longer and showing more of his personal history then did the Sullivan version.

That is a convincing argument so I confess that you seem to be correct, and yet it hurts my romantical view of Prince Edward Island. I too am an American and even though I love British drama and British history - I have never liked British humor which is usually crude and rude. My view is thereby in agreement with Marilla as she told Anne at the end of this episode = I may never look at the Minister's sermons the same way ever again.

The part where Bash and Anne first meet is interesting because Anne jumps into her surprise about Bash being "colored" and then Bash stands there looking stunned, and I interpret that to be that Bash had never seen such a person as Anne, because Anne had short hair and Anne has red and freckles and talking fast - so it would make sense that Bash was stunned by Anne's appearance. Everyone else is stunned by seeing Bash - but Bash is stunned by seeing Anne - she looks like some little red headed fairy person. See pic HERE. The play (the pantomime) could have been done without dressing the Minister as a drag-queen as that was unnecessary, and it would never had happened in their real life at those times. Introducing the brother who died (Michael) was brilliant - IMO - and the marbles too was a smart prop to let Mathew bring Michael to Anne at the last scene.

I say it just looked like Marilla was being sterner when she was really just lost at trying to be a mother. She asked Rachel for guidance, she tried to figure out a response to "kissing", and praising Anne for being plain was a ridiculous attempt at soothing or at teaching Anne. This episode was trying to show Marilla as herself growing into the role of a matron for a young girl.

My view is that it is best to just skip the first three (3) episodes and start watching at this S2-E4. By binge watching the show I quickly figured out that E4 was the real beginning, while the first 3 were insane. AnnE writing the letters to Jeannie was a clever way for the show to put AnnE in the middle of Matthew with his lost GF. The title of this episode = "The painful eagerness of unfed hope." comes from a line in a book by George Eliot (aka: Mary Anne Evans) called Middlemarch. I too saw Gilbert helping the woman give birth as excessive, but later Gilbert telling Bash that his Mom died giving birth to him - that added a lot of substance to the story. Dianna and Minnie May walking in with books on their heads was simply adorable, and it builds on the premises that Minnie May was a little wild. It is comforting to keep seeing the Barry's as a loving family because that love was the thing that Dianna so graciously gave to AnnE from the beginning.

We could consider that both Matthew and Marilla were not talkative, and so they saw other people but did not speak. When the Ladies of the "Progressive Women's Circle" came to visit then they said that they saw each other in Church but were never introduced. And the fact that Matthew and Marilla were single without children then they did not have the connection of other families, and after Anne arrived then Anne brought the connection between the local children to the Cuthberts. I do not know about Marilla attending any "Lady's Aid" but she would still be likely to sit alone and quiet at every meeting just like she would in Church. As to shopping then Marilla made their clothes, and their food came directly from their farm, so they might have gone shopping just twice (2 times) per year in the Spring and in the Fall. It is totally possible to be isolated in any small town, because the Cuthbert's wanted to be left alone.

I would like to see "Anne with an E" to be included into some awards, as like an Oscar or Emmy or etc etc etc. Best producer and writer = Moira Walley-Beckett. Best leading Actress = Amybeth McNulty. Other Netflix-only shows are getting lots of awards, as like "The Crown" and "Orange as the New Black" but Anne with an E seems to be ignored. What goes on with the awards?

1) Loving that picture of those three. 2) The series shows how Diana was first put into the middle of Anne and the school, then Anne and the teacher, then Diana put between Anne and the other school girls then between Anne and Gilbert and between Anne and Diana's mother with the wine, and it all started with Diana making the solemn promise (she swore) to be Anne's friend forever. In E7 it shows that Diana was no longer trying to just defend Anne or smooth things over because at the beginning of E7 when Anne ran out of the room then Diana went with her by her side, so the show is showing the growth of Diana too. 3) In the scene of Matthew having tea with Jeanie (E5) then it shows on her desk a wedding picture of Jeanie and her husband as they were married, so Jeanie was probably a widow which has not been told yet, and so she was not waiting (nor pining) 50 years for Matthew to come around. * 4) The woman greeting Mathew tells him that they make all their dresses there at the shop = just as if they come from Paris. * *) When we binge the series a few times then we start seeing the little details.

I too like this version of Aunt Josephine and especially where Aunt Jo gives Anne a guidance to the books by George Eliot, aka Mary Anne Evans (with an E). My understanding about Anne is that she is a representation of L.M. Montgomery and so Anne became the world famous authoress.

My view is that Matthew was bullied by his elder sister Marilla from the beginning, as seen in E1 it shows Marilla demanding that the orphanage gives them an obedient boy who is not lazy, and Matthew sitting there quiet as he knows those demands applied to his self too for his entire life. In this last episode E7 it has Matthew finally being loved both by Anne and by Marilla which he had never experienced before, and it seems very likely that it was the first and only time that Matthew and Marilla held hands as their only tender embrace in their lives - as Matthew asked for forgiveness. Marilla was really just like Rachel as a bully, and most bullies really do think that being harsh and cruel is how they express love, and Marilla had to unlearn the bullying in E2 by seeing that she bullied Anne out of the house and into the streets, and that is the truly best way to stop a bully is by the bully seeing that they are hurting the very people closest to them. Another scene was after Mrs Berry caught Anne and Diana being drunk (E5) because we can see that Diana is terrified of her mother as Diana cringes before her, and if that was just the actress acting then she (Delila) played it realistic as she was visibly afraid of Mrs Berry as her mother - and that too is just another aspect of bullying. I even like the scene where Aunt Josephine came charging down stairs to complain (to bully) about the ruckus in the kitchen and both Ruby and Diana froze but Anne confronted Aunt Jo by quoting the book about "baring what is our fate to bare" because in that case Anne instantly retaliated against the bullying and put a stop to it.

Long ago (1890's) then they did use ipecac for the croup, and the diagnosis of "coup" was not so perfect as any child coughing severely and choking would be called the coup whether it was the real virus or just a serve chest cold. So Anne really did everything wrong up to the end, because the ipecac and the cold air and the steam from water and onions on Minnie May's heels did nothing to help, but at the end by turning Minnie May upside down for gravity to pull the flem down so Minnie May could cough it out - that was the one thing to save the girl. I see this as showing the "Anne with an E" as a much better informed version of the story, because both the assorted failed remedies of those times and the one successful procedure makes it far more realistic.

Diana must have felt guilty because she (Diana) was the one who prompted Anne to tell about the "pet mouse" and Diana must not have known that it would get Anne into trouble, and Diana did not foresee how it would affect Prissy and the Andrew family, so Diana was deeply involved in that blunder. Another part was when Rachel Lynde became upset about Marilla attending the "Progressive Mothers" meeting then it seems obvious that Rachel had her superiority complex over Marilla because Rachel had 10 children while Marilla had none, so then Marilla was being a mother too which took Rachel down a notch from her pedestal.

Since Anne quotes "Jane Eyre" several times, including at the very beginning on the train, then I would say so - that yes a far greater underpinning.. I had never read "Jane Eyre" but I am now 3/4 way through that book as it turns out to be a very interesting book. Jane Eyre was an orphan who was first unjustly mistreated and later redeemed, and it has strong moral message along with suspense and romance which would indeed inspire a young impressionable person like Anne Shirley. I really say that this is a very clever interpretation of "AnnE" because it is saying that the book "Jane Eyre" could have been the source of Anne's peculiar attitude and personality.

Oh! That is right, as I had the wrong word. Now everyone is going to think that I am an old gooseberry.

Anne becoming a wife and mother (a homemaker) in the books does seems to be far too mellow dramatic for the Anne girl. In one episode she declares that she wants to do something astonishing. My view has always been that Anne was a resemblance of L.M. Montgomery in that Anne became the world famous author. ------------------------- QUESTION for anyone: What did Matthew mean when he said of Anne that = "She always seems to be a bit at sixes and sevens." The scene from E4 went like this = Anne burned the pie then Marilla declares Anne must go back to school, then Anne says that Matthew told her that she did not have to go to school, then Marilla marches angrily out to Mathew declaring that Matthew cuddles the girl, then Matthew says the unknown line = "She always seems to be a bit at sixes and sevens." I have thought that maybe he meant 6's or 7's o'clock and that makes no sense, or maybe Matthew was trying to home-school Anne in arithmetic and that too seems unlikely. Does anyone have any idea of the meaning?

I was waiting for anyone to say = "Puffiest in the world." --------------------------------------------------- Another point was that Anne could have had her "period" while standing for the spelling bee, and so she could have had the dreaded "accident" in front of the class. Also it recalled (by implication to episode 3) the name of the mothers' group as the "PMS Circle" (Progressive Mothers Sewing Circle), and only a female script writer could have gotten away with using that acronym for that group.

Hi PRGal: You are right - an adopted child would inherit the farm. If we review this story more sympathetically then the Cuthberts had no next-of-kin and so to adopt a boy would mean that the boy would inherit the entire farm and property after the Cuthberts die - and that is not cheap nor is it free labor. A hired hand or a slave boy would not inherit anything - only kin is kin - legally including adoption. I saw it as very interesting (and relevant) in E6 when Matthew offered to help Gilbert with his inherited Blythe farm, then Matthew appeared surprised (if not shocked) that Gilbert did not want to be a farmer - because Matthew had never heard of such a thing as that. The Cuthberts might have been upset at Anne not being a boy because there are other complications for an inheritance to go to a daughter - as in she would be expected to leave to get married, and a girl would not be so likely as to want to inherit a farm, or her husband might sell the property, and so they wanted a "son" more-so as their heir and less as their servant.

One part (and the only part) that I found to be out-of-line was in E7 S1, where the Cuthberts do not accept charity but it was okay to let Anne go out door-to-door to sell her labor to their neighbors. We can be certain that Diana or Ruby or any other youngster did not go out to assist Anne in such an adventure - because the other parents would never allow that. They ignore the fact that they could have sold whatever Matthew had purchased with the Bank money, because selling (or returning) the seeds would seem easy to do, as would any thing else that Matthew had just bought, and the Bank sign said it had assets of $5000, which is realistic but it is very little by today's standards, so the loan was not so high as to borrow the money from Aunt Jo or from other sources, but instead they let Anne go out to sell her labor which is far more unagreeable then to accept charity. And for Christians "charity" is to be viewed as a blessed thing. Otherwise I loved the entire series and look forward to season 2.

Sending a 13 year old unescorted on a trip is not so unusual, and since the Cuthberts were upset at AnnE then they might not care much about her safety or security. The far more significant point is that she was sent back to the Orphanage instead of sending Anne to the Blewetts, because that would have been more cruel.

Hi Dee ~ I tried to look up a link to E2 S1 by searching the title name = "I Am No Bird, and No Net Ensnares Me" and instead of finding AnnE then the search took me to "Jane Eyre" because the title is a quote from the book Jane Eyre. That was a surprise to me and now I suspect that the other titles probably come from Jane Eyre too. I like this connection to Jane Eyre, and it implies that AnnE might have formulated her peculiar imagination by reading that book which was first published in 1847.

Hi here: The controversy of episode 2 is that it is not in the book, nor in any previous version of Anne. My view is that I like this new insertion into the story because it was no small event for Anne to be called a liar and a thief by Marilla, and that controversy truly needed to be expanded for emphasis. In the book as in other versions this event is gone through quickly as if it were not such a big deal as it deserves to be. This was a time when Marilla needed to outgrow her old prejudice and stop viewing Anne as just an orphan or as an outsider and start seeing Anne as a person, which is thereby why it follows with their official adoption ceremony. The episode 2 also demonstrated a huge turning point for Anne because in this she made the huge big decision to not go back to the orphanage, and she was going to live by her own wits from that point onward. The fact that Anne has already decided that she would never go back to the orphanage plays a significant role later in episode 7 when she tells Marilla that it is okay if the Cuthbert's were not going to keep her because she was already free from the old strings. Another significant point in E2 is when Matthew sells his family watch, because by doing this Matthew was choosing Anne above his old family ties. Anyone else here have any insights or opinions then please do share?