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2 hours ago, AZChristian said:
Podcaster: "I watch every episode. The first thing people need to do is build a boma."
Not only did they not build a boma, the only animals we saw were caimans and snakes (probably stock footage).
I rolled my eyes at the self proclaimed armchair “survivalist” and her statements about knowledge regarding the show and her abilities. I’ve watched plenty of Naked and Afraid and wouldn’t last a day out there but I don’t have the same level of interest in the show that this woman does.
I thought the only place a boma is ever built on this show is Africa. I don’t think that one is necessary where they were in Columbia. Yeah, with the rabid interest this woman has I think she would have known that. Or maybe it was just me 🤷♀️. In her intro that comment she made about Dan was just weird.
2 hours ago, AZChristian said:And did anyone else notice the HUGE building with a tile roof as they were riding the quads at the end?
That must have been the spa showers and dressing rooms. They probably even got fluffy white bathrobes.
I'm beginning to think this might not be "reality" TV. How do we actually know how far they walked or how much they lost??? Hmmmmm????
I did not notice the building at the end but I was only half watching. There was a brief comment about how long they’d need to walk IIRC. I thought I heard 4 miles. They did show how much weight each person lost at the end (I don’t remember what it was … maybe 15 lbs.?). It didn’t seem like they faced much in the way of challenges like others have faced so I was wondering how “real” this was as well. Honestly at the start I was expecting that podcaster to quit about 2 or 3 days in then complain how hard it is, like other quitters have said in the past.
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Unfortunately for the crew this shuttle mission didn’t include a trip to the ISS. IIRC they didn’t have the ability (i.e. the needed parts or whatever) to dock the shuttle to the ISS so this as a last minute solution wasn’t possible.
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7 hours ago, AZChristian said:
Gabby and Ky are still strong women. I was so impressed with Gabby at the end when she said, "I found out that I am patient, and I am kind." Lots of self-realization with no ego . . . from any of them.
One of my favorite episodes of N&A.
I agree. It was nice to see people we haven’t seen too much of either, plus they all got along well! During the segment where they are all eating the armadillo I think I heard Ky say “it doesn’t taste like chicken” which I found funny, since whenever people eat something strange the comparison always seems to be that it tastes like chicken, 😆
I also do not blame Elise (I think that was her name?) for being hesitant with eating the armadillo meat, I don’t think that’s on the list of meat that lot of people would like to eat. Too bad they couldn’t catch that snake, it might have been easier to deal with eating, who knows.
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1 hour ago, chediavolo said:
Is “Then Came Bronson” streaming anywhere?
According to IMDb, no.
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I was grossed out too @SassyCat . With the number of women who have previously appeared on the show I can’t believe they’re having one talk about that time of the month only now. I remember seeing something online a while back about what they do in these cases so I’m sure it’s happened before, they just didn’t talk about it during the show.
I was paying attention most of the time although I fell asleep towards the end so I missed the extraction.
A difference I’m seeing so far vs last season is they have some fairly competent people, no one has proclaimed how great they’re going to do then tap out 2 days later. At least that one guy made it halfway before tapping.
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Same here. I enjoyed watching 2 competent people for 2 hours who seemed to get along well during the 21 days. At the start when Shell said “I’m not looking to make Africa my bitch” I figured she was tough enough to make it through.
The only thing that bothered me was Cole letting Shell eat both catfish - thinking about it later I guess he did it knowing his own limitations while trying to help someone who he practically just met and really didn’t know that well make it to the end. Thankfully later he was able to score a big kill for the both of them.-
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2 hours ago, heatherchandler said:
Every cable channel has their own streaming app- how is this better than cable?
It’s not. It’s a win for the streamer since it doesn’t have to negotiate with cable operators for access. All they need to do is make their content available for people to purchase. We the consumer lose in the end.
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47 minutes ago, Scarlett45 said:
I’m just starting Episode 6 of Season 1, and I want to know what Kristine cheating on her husband has to do with abuse of Natalia? Michael crying about not being able to stand up to her? This is reading very much “call a woman a whore” if you don’t like what she’s doing (justified or not).
Not that it had anything to do with the story about Natalia I was wondering through all of this what kind of marriage they had before they adopted her. IIRC back during the episodes aired last May I think Michael accused Natalia of ruining or breaking up his marriage. At the time I had a hard time believing that. After this last series of episodes it’s obvious that it was because Kristine went nuclear on Michael.
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1 hour ago, shelley1234 said:
I think it is 100% about money. Money Natalia was paid to be part of the documentary. Money from the gofundme they set up for Natalia. They want that money. Grifters gonna grift.
I agree, that call at the end was a money grab. I came across another article during the week (I don’t remember where offhand) and it mentioned that go fund me from months ago and how little it raised.
56 minutes ago, shelley1234 said:You'd think as Michael's attorney he would turn his attention to attacking Kristine and the abuse she inflicted on Michael and Natalia. But nah, he has little to no interest in that. Interesting choice when Michael keeps saying they both have the same monster, but Michael's attorney keeps emphasizing the monster in Natalia.
I cringed every time that lawyer came on screen. I get that he’s paid to defend his client Michael but why in the world did the show give him the opportunity to try to discredit Natalia? I think the legal analysis should have been limited to the disinterested lawyer Beth Karas. She seemed to have cut and dry comments about what happened here. According to her intro she’s been following this case since it hit the news so I thought she offered valuable insight. Also, where was Natalia’s lawyer?
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@Hedgehog2022 I found a recent online article that mentioned Kristine lives in Florida now.
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@kwnyc Early in the episodes back in May they mentioned when Natalia was born the doctors in Ukraine told her mother it was better for her to give her up because of her medical condition because she never would have been able to care for her on her own. Last night they showed her biological mother who said she wants Natalia with her. I can’t imagine how she feels if she knows the stories about what happened with Natalia over the past 20 years.
Good question about the Barnett’s finances, perhaps they were living above their means? I think Michael was an assistant manager somewhere - or something like that, I don’t recall hearing that he had some high 6 figure salary. Those comments about Kristine proclaiming that advance money was hers, who knows.
IMO if the little people couple they interviewed were able to adopt Natalia she probably would have had a more stable upbringing, although she still had those preexisting issues from being in the orphanage in Ukraine.-
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2 hours ago, CraftyHazel said:
I can’t say I’m completely surprised, honestly. That young woman is incredibly damaged and needs intensive therapy, which it doesn’t appear she has had. Her issues go back to her orphanage years, and no adoption was going to magically fix her.
I agree, Natalia needs a professional therapist to help her deal with what she’s been through. Watching the segments where she goes back to her old neighborhood and sits on the swings and reminisces made me wonder if that was really a good thing to do. When planning this show I wonder if the producers consulted with any mental health professionals about the impact this could have on her.
4 minutes ago, Whimsy said:Why would her adopted family contact the producers unless it was to get more TV specials? That's why I don't believe that at all and find it super suspect. It's a family matter. No reason to contact TV people!
Yes!!!
All along I’ve felt there was something “off” about the Manns but if Natalia is happy with them what do I know. Anyway, for them it’s been a 10 year thing so now it’s over … what’s next? MORE drama!-
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I’m skeptical about that ending - Natalia has been living with the Manns for around 10 years and now after they’ve legally adopted her there are issues and they’re done with her? I think it’s more like the cameras stopped rolling and everyone went home so they need to get them back somehow. I suspect Natalia has ongoing issues that need to be dealt with.
At least this time Michael behaved well enough that we got some answers but his talking about how he was a victim, ugh. Nice way to muddy the waters. Then how Natalia forgave him, was that part of the script for the show? I really wonder if she’s forgiven him. I know in general it’s a good thing to forgive so you can move on, but here with all the abuse she suffered I just don’t know.-
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10 minutes ago, libgirl2 said:
How many episodes is this? I watched Monday but last night was not able to.
Tonight is the last episode. I’m sure they’ll repeat it ad naseum.
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1 hour ago, TattleTeeny said:
I despise the lady at the first apartment. For one thing, she is mind-numbingly stupid, judgmental, and inarticulate. Also, she says things that she thinks prove that Natalia was an adult, but they pretty much do the opposite, in my opinion. She's an old see-you-next-Tuesday. I wonder if the younger couple from that apartment complex was contacted for this and decided against it after learning who Natalia really is.
I thought the follow up with that old woman last night was a waste of time. Who cares what she thinks. She’ll never be convinced that Natalia was unfairly aged up. Through all of the Natalia’s revisiting the past and talking with people from her time with the Barnetts I hope she finds the peace she needs to move on with her life. IMO I think it’s a waste of time only because you’ll never get these people to actually tell you anything meaningful.
Something that angered me was the part of the story where they mentioned the people who were responsible for her re-aging besides the judge - the family friend/physician and the social worker (or whatever her title was, she wasn’t qualified to determine Natalia’s true age). I guess they couldn’t get them on camera for an interview like they did with the dentist.
12 minutes ago, monagatuna said:And should any of this new information reach the level of legal evidentiary support (provided it meets the chain of custody standards and is verified), yes, Michael can be retried on it. He's a dumbass but he's right that he can't be retried on the previous evidence, but if there's new evidence, he can be charged on that, and so can Kristine. And if the new evidence sheds a different light on the old evidence from the first trial, it can be reintroduced into a new trial.
I wouldn't be surprised if this isn't the last time Michael sees the inside of a courtroom. I have a feeling his theatrics will be tempered a bit the second time around. We can hope, anyway.
I think Natalia said something about suing them in last night’s episode? Kristine may think she’s “done” with Natalia - maybe that’s why we haven’t heard anything from her but I suspect it’s not really over yet.
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37 minutes ago, Elizzikra said:
I still can't quite believe that Kristine is actually smart enough to have remained quiet. Michael is obviously a loon and someone should really tell him to shut up already. But Kristine, as best I can tell, is really keeping a quiet low profile. Has she said anything since all this got stirred up?
Not that I’m aware of. It appears the only talking she’s done is through the text messages she exchanged with Michael. What I find interesting is this series has been showing only Michael’s video testimony and not Kristine’s. They were both charged, why haven’t we seen anything related to her testimony?
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1 hour ago, RedInk said:
The people at the GED school didn’t have any questions? No competent adult professionals to be found at the mental hospital or in the Indiana court system? I work with disabled children & young adults, so my radar pings a little faster and louder I assume, but what kind of bizarro world is this?
Another failure is Michael and Kristine walking around free on the planet. Anybody know what happened to her?I’ve been wondering about the GED place too. In last night’s episode they showed the paperwork for the GED place saying Grade 9 (or something like that) - that’s a huge jump for someone who at the time had a 1st grade education. Did they ever test her before hand? Oh wait, they probably got the snow job about the “Barnett Academy” and those “courses” she took, lol.
About Michael and Kristine IMO Michael’s milking this series for all its worth apparently. I wish we didn’t have to watch any new material with him at all last night. I guess Kristine is keeping a low profile, lol. I’ll say it again, these two are very, very lucky they weren’t sent to prison for what they did to Natalia.-
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That meeting between Natalia and Michael was awful. All he said was how much he was a victim - ugh. He is abhorrent. I hope Natalia eventually realizes she’s not going to get much more of an answer to what happened than she’s gotten already. Michael is interested in only himself and Kristine isn’t going to offer anything because there’s no defense for all of what she’s accused of doing.
That whole part of the story where Kristine wanted to turn Natalia into a genius made me wonder what the story was with her other two sons, the ones whose faces are always blurred out when they show family pictures. Why go outside the family when you’ve got 2 other children to exploit?2 minutes ago, rlc said:Right, but wouldn't presenting her at her actual age make more sense in that scenario?
I think by the time the re-aging took place Kristine discovered Natalia wasn’t a genius.
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Oxygen also has its own series profiling neighbors who don’t get along however the 2 episodes I watched were their versions of stories I already saw on “Fear Thy Neighbor”.
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People Magazine article about the upcoming series:
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6 parts????
How much more is there? I’m sure we will see a lot of rehashing of what we saw before.
I guess since the series from the Barnett’s side was 6 hours it looks like this one gives Natalia equal time. We’ll probably be spared Michael Barnett’s histrionics here.-
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21 minutes ago, JudyObscure said:
Dead beats one and all, but Angela had serious mental problems. James should have been more careful about who he chose to rip off and take advantage of.
James should have considered that since she’s not able to work and her husband left her that her finances were not that great. He probably also saw her as an easy mark as I’m sure other people around him saw him as the dead beat that he was. Something I was wondering during the part of the segment where someone was banging on his door looking for the money he owed them if that person was a loan shark. I found an article online that said he had a gambling habit so no wonder he was constantly looking for money.
5 minutes ago, mmecorday said:This episode would have been more ideally suited for "Deadly Women."
A couple of shows on Oxygen (Snapped, Floribama Murders) profiled this case too:
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Yeah, co-signing and letting a neighbor/friend access your bank account is never a good idea. You might as well be waving bye-bye to all of your money. I’ve always figured when you loan money to someone you’ll never see it again. James didn’t deserve what he got but with the way he was treating Angela what was it going to take to end this. Then he wanted to borrow money from her father. Was he going to ruin that man’s credit as well? I guess Angela didn’t own a gun, I don’t recall how many other times on this show that the killer didn’t use a gun to murder the victim.
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3 hours ago, PsychoKlown said:
I wonder why she needed to stay with Donna and her family after her “difficult” divorce? She evidently had enough money for a down payment on a home so that would mean she had enough money to rent a room at the Comfort Inn.
Waiting for the division of assets to be finalized? Good question, who knows what the deal was. It wasn’t like come stay with me until you close on the house next door, if it was working out that house likely would have been sitting on the market longer. I’ve been trying to find additional information about this incident online and I can’t find anything. Sometimes those online articles have an additional detail or two that the show didn’t cover for whatever reason.
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Naked And Afraid - General Discussion
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In the end they said she lost 40 lbs. She didn’t look like she weighed that much to start with.
She’s made of tough stuff. From her remarks at the end it sounded like she is happy having done the challenge although she had a very tough time doing it. Too bad she got some bad fruit, at least it didn’t force her out of the challenge.
The last 2 challenges were in Columbia, I really didn’t keep track of the exact locations but the differences in location between the 2 were like night and day. Maybe the weather was very different from the days they were filmed since the prior week they were able to start a fire on the first try and last night it took them until the next day although I wonder how hard either of them looked for something dry to light up.