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  1. On 4/28/2023 at 9:55 AM, Kitty Redstone said:

     

    Carly won't pay for her crimes this time, either, and Nina will be the evil-doer to out do all evil-doers. Carly doesn't pay a second thought to keeping Nina away from her two grandchildren, but Nina is supposed to feel bad that Carly's own actions may deprive her of spending time with Wiley and Amelia? And Sonny and Carly have this unbreakable bond of loyalty? The flames on the side of my face are red hot right now.

     

    I dislike the soap opera law that women with children should never have to go to jail for their crimes because it will be bad for their children.  No, it's worse for their children to see their mother get away with crimes.  

    An egregious case was on ATWT years ago, ATWT Carly (played by current Ava with the name Carly, lol) drugged another character.  So many of the other characters went on about how Carly's children needed her, and so she should not be arrested!  Just stupid.  I remember debating online about it, people saying you aren't a mother so you don't understand.  I understand that no one has a right to criminally harm another just because they are mothers!  And their excuse is "protecting their child."  And Donna doesn't even have anything to do with it.  

    51 minutes ago, Katy M said:

     

    And, Carly did lose her hotel, so it's not like she got zero consequences.  nina didn't really get any consequences for not telling anyone about Sonny.  Short-term he was mad at her, but it all worked out in the end (unless it won't).  Did she get any consequences for trying to steal Avery from Ava, besides getting Ava as  best friend?

    Anyway, not sure how Carly will wriggle her way outof this one.  After all, the SEC has a picture of her hugging Drew (sarc)

     

    Yet if feels like there are no consequences.  Carly lives in the same house and there appears to be no lifestyle change.  She just doesn't have to work now.  lol. Not a word about whether she could afford new dresses for the nurse's ball or the wedding.  She took a trip to Florida.  Her hair and nails are still done.  She must have income from somewhere else and didn't need the job or the ownership. 

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  2. 10 hours ago, Artsda said:

    Oh Nina, Willow will never forgive her for this. Not that Carly doesn't deserve it but this was a ridiculously stupid move if her goal is to care and have a relationship with Nina or the kids. 

     

     

    If Nina had shown she gives up and knows she will never have a relationship with Willow, then it would make more sense.  Blaming that on Carly. 

    Also how is Nina the only one who knows this happened?  The SEC would never do anything without this tip?  

    In the long run, they are going to end up like Alexis and Sam.  Carly being Nina's friend and all that jazz.  So it feels like it is ginned up.  Maybe the writers realize that the not telling about Sonny isn't enough bad action.  

    And that Carly is guilty isn't even a factor.  We're not supposed to notice that. 

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  3. It occurs to me that there is no mob villain right now - Victor is it.  That's been a nice break.  I did not even notice it until now.  And I guess it's been since the "Mike" days in Nixon Falls (took me a minute to come up with the name of the town lol). 

     

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  4. 41 minutes ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

    Technically, he would have had to wait 7 years before he could declare Valentin dead. Yeah, yeah, I know. This FAKAKTA show doesn't do what actually is done in real life. But there was a time when they at least tried. Oh, wait, that was back when this show had writers who actually cared.

    Like degrees and children, it can be rapidly aged.  Giant Baby has already been SORAS'd and he was just born.  A boat that has not been driven for years zipped up the St. Lawrence out to the coast of Greenland already.  (At least Greenland has a coast - don't know what the writers are thinking. It should be the coast of Switzerland).  

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  5. 2 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

    And it's always a huge deal for a girl to lose her virginity. That was one thing I liked about the Joss/Cam sex: Cam's virginity wasn't ignored. That said, the emphasis on virginity in general is gross to me. Who cares? It's nobody's business but the person's.

    Would we expect the other person to be able to know about it, so they'd be more considerate or whatever?  I guess that's up to the virgin.  There are people who claimed they were dumped when they told the other person they were one.  Soaps should be for us romantics, anyway.  I hated finding out it was not easy, more like a sport than romance, so coldly judged and had nothing to do with romance.  If there's none in reality, let me have some on tV!  LOL.  

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  6. 4 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

    You can't bring any of that up. The Carlys might end up losing with a good dose of truth and we can't have that. Someone should really remind the dickwads that the reason one of them is still around is because billionaire daddy bought Nelle's kidney on the black market.

    Willow went from sympathetic character to whatever this is. Being part of the Carlys inner circle is like having bile for breakfast. It turns everyone into a bitter narrow-minded asshole.

    And this whole situation with Leisl being kidnapped by Victor. Honestly, morons should get pissed at Carly all over again. Her keeping her mouth shut about Nina and Willow's blood relation has also led to this moment. The bone marrow transplant could have been done months ago, literally. 

    Now missy is threatening to die and instead of resentment or anger toward Carly or a good lashing out at her for being a selfish twat, we have her as matron of honor and we're asking her for her blessing to marry the putz she gave birth to. 

    This show is absolutely hopeless.

    I wonder about these writers. Do they really think the audience mostly wants to just root for the Carlys even if they do things that other characters are reprimanded for?  Maybe they get that vibe.  IMO they pay too much attention to the few obsessed fans, write for the crazies who write them letters begging them to let Carly win or whatever, and thus lose ratings.  Most of the audience does not write to them and join crazy fan clubs.  Write for them and they'd have higher ratings.  

    What average viewer would be so obsessed with one character?  It's almost like Guza's sickness when it came to Sonny.  No majority wants a "star" of a soap or a man's POV ( I bet the audience is 98% female) or just one character to dominate.  And be always right on top of that.  That's not soap.  

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  7. 19 hours ago, Daisy said:

    trina was dumbs and took the walkie-talkie and now they know that. 

    Yes, what good is a walkie talkie with one person.  She could hear Victor's minions over it, perhaps?  But only if they don't notice one missing, otherwise they won't use it.  Maybe there's more to this plan. 

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  8. 21 hours ago, rur said:

    There are maritime traffic maps  that show  ships and pleasure vessels on the Great Lakes in real time and webcams in just about every port along the way. @nilyank is right, there's only one way to the Atlantic. Even the PCPD should be able to find them -- unless Victor somehow can use the PC wormhole to take them to the coast of Bolivia. 

    He is sailing it to the Pennsylvania side of the river, all the way to the Pennsylvania beach (that we know exists if we saw AMC) then down the Delaware to the ocean and beyond. 

    20 hours ago, Artsda said:

     

    Trina wants to get off the boat? How? She should not have probably not gotten involved in first place.  

     

    Were they doing to swim?  In those outfits?  LOL. 

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  9. 10 hours ago, scarlett said:

    If WL isn’t really leaving I don’t get the drawn out goodbyes. Liz’s speeches are sweet and all but in the back of my mind, knowing he’ll be back in 12 weeks I’m like……okay.

     

    12 weeks should be long enough for Cam to graduate.  And complete medical school. 

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  10. On 3/29/2023 at 2:19 PM, YaddaYadda said:

    Way to make all of this about Hatman, writers. Responsible for her take the mcats, following her dreams, dying.

    It's always dumb the way characters blame themselves for things that happen.  Like only he could convince her to go to medical school.  And that accident could have happened anywhere.  

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  11. IMO if the actors are going to be leaving at the end of their contracts, the show needs to be able to do recasts without a lot of complaining.  The writing is bad enough but they have excuses for it when they have to keep changing course.  If they just recast Cam right now, they could continue the story. 

    The audience resistance to it ought to be resisted.  It's not the old days, when a paying acting job was so rare that the actor hung onto it as long as it lasted.  With all the extra channels and shows, it seems like quitting an acting job to concentrate on school is a thing. For soaps, that's no good, unless the audience learns to live with recasts. 

     

     

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  12. 1 hour ago, nilyank said:

    I rolled my eyes when Spencer and Trina had their first kiss and she wanted to have sex in the gallery and he pulls away and says no.

     

    I was watching old clips of Zander and Emily and have to laugh at young, hot, soap opera men willing to forego a chance at sex because they are so kindly considerate that she is not ready for it and this is not special enough.  Zander needed to be redeemed a lot, maybe that is also so for Spencer, with a different twist, but it's hilarious.  Male hormones on the soap opera planet aren't what they are on planet earth. 

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  13. 2 hours ago, Mirabelle said:

    People wonder whether it's realistic for Esme to retain custody of her baby but the courts not immediately terminating her parental rights is the most believable part of the stupid plot. Nothing Esme has done so far would cause her to lose her rights as Ace's mother. Note, I am not saying Esme wouldn't go to jail for the things she's done but the courts would not terminate her parental rights over those crimes especially when she has repeatedly expressed her intention to be a parent to her child. 

    If they were going to give Spencer baby rabies and run around town bleating MY BABY BROTHER!!! why didn't they just make Spencer his father? I really hope a DNA test shows some random Canadian is the father so only one member of the new adult set is stuck being a young parent. 

     

    In reality courts bend over backwards to preserve the biological relationship.  It takes long years of drug abuse or abandonment.  Even pre-amnesia Esme would keep her child over all others.  

    Maybe they did not make Spencer the father because they had no idea to make drama out of an ordinary break up, so that Spencer couldn't be mad at Esme unless she had betrayed him in the way she did by sleeping with his progenitor.

    Watching old clips for 20+ years ago, you can see today they have no idea of romance, or they think it is boring.  They just got Spencer into a romance, and instead concentrating on that, they do this.  

    It's like they cannot conceive of any drama that does not involve a baby, a baby paternity secret, or keeping a fact to oneself being interpreted always as a betrayal and a lie.  Then they don't work through it.  Shouldn't Liz's current story be about what her mother did to her?  Where is her mother and father now?  No, Liz has to be in on the baby story.  

    Trina already hugging Curtis?  The writers must want to move her into helping Spencer with the giant baby.  

    Was there a sale on twin baby actors?  

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  14. 11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

     

    LOL at Michael trying to act like some sort of Criminal Justice Martyr because he'll "take the heat" when Dante and Kristina (and I guess Avery and Donna) are mad at him for 'taking Sonny down.'  But I thought the entire point of him outsourcing this was so his hands were clean.  Make up your mind, you dullard.

     

    One would think that Donna and Avery would be told their father is in jail because he broke the law.  They can even visit him, to see that he is OK and get some time with him.  Instead, it seems the Carlys would encourage them to blame those who put him there.   Breaking the law is not the real problem for these Carlys. 

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  15. 20 hours ago, Asp Burger said:

    They took "my daughter!" for a spin there too, when Nina first found out. 

    Spencer said "my younger brother" there once, so they have some consciousness that they have characters repeat the same phrase too much - a variation from "my baby brother."

    8 hours ago, Daisy said:

    yeah. like i know the focus was supposed to be a hijinx ha ha scene. but all i got was here is Lucy, who has been a great friend and support to Bobbie during the years, and she's listening to said good friend legit talk crap about her and her accomplishments to a cause that means a crap tonne to Lucy.  and quite frankly Maxie sitting there just smiling uncomfortably is not enough. say something.
     

    Yes, you can see they intended this to be funny, but then forgot all about history in order to do it.  Lucy seems to a comedic character for them, so maybe the Victor story isn't that serious either.  

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  16. 3 hours ago, ffwbe said:

    I’m begging the show to reduce LW’s minimums. They clearly lost interest in giving her her own storylines and I am so tired of them shoehorning her into other people’s SLs. Why does she of all people need to know about what’s going on with Victor/Valentin? 

    Does it even do her career any good?  She'd be better off doing other things now and then.  They've made room for others to do it.  

    She gets more money, perhaps, but what is the good to the show?  May as well just give her a raise.  

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  17. 12 hours ago, racked said:

     

    I get the Dex and Spencer will be brothers vibe too, which will make him Sonny’s nephew. I only accept this storyline if somehow it makes him turn on Joss. 

    Is there any way it could be via Nikolas?  He has been offscreen a few times.  Not the last time, when he was "dead," because the kid would be younger.  Though I've probably given them an idea for the future. 

    Gregory used a phrase "you are being ridiculous."  That is associated with gaslighting. 

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  18. 1 hour ago, Semiglued said:

    I’m with Spencer on everything - his being upset about Cam leaving, his hatred for Esme and distrust of her. He’s right about all of it.

    I don’t know what story the show is trying to tell though, and his hyper focus on Esme makes me worried they’re destined for a triangle with Trina. Honestly at this point I would rather see a Joss/Dex/Esme triangle even though Dex is super lame, because I want to see Joss lose. 

    Too soon for a triangle - they barely started with Spencer and Trina.  No triangles!

    Dex is sort of upstanding (isn't he a war vet who is faking being a mobster to take down Mooby?) so he wouldn't like Esme.  

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  19. 12 hours ago, Suicidy said:

    Did Carly Jr. ever offer her sympathy to Olbrecht, or show gratitude about her daughter saving her life?

    That’s why half the cast not only hangs out at the docks, but only dock for the whole port.  And they all dine at two or three restaurants.

    Today's example:  For Alexis and Gregory to have their little tiff, they happen to be having breakfast with the sons/daughter in the same restaurant.  

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  20. 9 hours ago, Artsda said:

    Carly can't go CVS and Walgreens like a normal person? She needs to go GH for a prescription fill? All so she could save Liz and offer to be her bff?

     

     

    9 hours ago, DanaK said:

    Why does anyone go to the hospital to see an ordinary doctor?

     

    Soap opera plot convenience so people can run into each other at the hospital. There are no clinics or general or special practices.  All is done at the hospital.  

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  21. On 3/3/2023 at 1:47 PM, jsbt said:

     

    The Zander/Cameron Lewis retcon always baffled me. IIRC yes, it did turn out Zander was from a wealthy family. There should be money. I don't remember the details. I do remember Cameron Sr. allegedly finally telling Zander his brother actually committed suicide(??) out in those woods. But I would bring Zander back and chalk it up to Witness Protection to give Liz and Cam something to do, because Chad Brannon looked fine as hell in his return a year or two ago.

    I recall waiting forever for Zander's story to come out, and when it finally did, Guza was in charge so of course it had to be bloody.  And who wouldn't shoot themselves rather than put it on their brother to do it, even accidentally?  

    There was a scene with Zander and Liz where Zander slipped that he had a brother Pete.  He talked about living in a huge house on the beach where the AC was on full blast all the time.  It caused speculation that it had something Cassidine about it (freezing the world) but in the end that detail apparently came to nothing.  Speculations abounded while the story dragged out and you got small bits and pieces over months of time.  But there was the hint that he came from big money.  

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  22. 14 hours ago, nilyank said:

    They locked her up because they believed that she was The Hook and a flight risk.

    She has been suspected of releasing the video of Cam and Joss having sex from the testimony from Oz who said he sold her the burner phones. He also said that he was last in the company of Esme when he was drugged and went into a coma. He had a plea deal if he would testify against Esme at her trial.

    Heather killed him before any trial so Jordan and the PCPD will need other evidence if they want to prove that Esme tried to kill Oz. The porn charges may be the only crime that they prove but she should be able to get issued bail. If she cannot afford bail, then that is a different story but she has been chained to a hospital bed or locked up since she was discovered by the PCPD.  
     

    So no one is giving her a free get out of jail card. As is her right as Ace’s mom, she is requesting for her child to be housed with her so that she can bond and take care of him. That isn’t something that GH writers came up with. That is something that has been made available in New York for female prisoners.

    And yes Esme planned and took delight in exposing Joss and Cam and framing Trina. Since she he woke up with amnesia she has been horrified by what she has been accused of committing and all the actions by her biological parents. She has no one in her corner. I don’t see anyone insisting that she should have Ace in her life (e.g. Nina with Willow and her children).

    Esme has a chance to change. She has not killed anyone. She wants to take care of her son and  isn’t demanding anyone to help her including financially.

    Finally, back in the day Brenda distributed naked pictures of Karen showering to their whole high school out of spite, but she was given the opportunity to grow as a character so I don’t have a problem with Esme given a chance.

    The writing was probably a lot better then.  And the redemption played out over enough time to make it believable. 

    14 hours ago, tessaray said:

    Soaps routinely introduce new characters who do heinous things that they then need to whitewash when they decide to keep them. (It’s a pet peeve of mine.) Esme is just one in a long line. 

    I do think that blank slate Esme has some moral center - she's trying to piece together everything that's happened and has had appropriate reactions. It isn't a stretch for me to believe if she hadn't been warped by Ryan she wouldn't have committed the crimes she is guilty of. A decent lawyer should be able to make a case for her anyway. That said, I wouldn't have a problem with them making her do a little time.

    If they should decide to show Esme as faking, I'll be seriously annoyed. 

    Once they did Franco, I think they thought they can do anything. 

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  23. Because of the detail, the 18 months, yes. Google says

     

    Nurseries inside the United States

    Most prison nurseries in the United States are only open to mothers who give birth to their children while they are serving their sentence; in most states, women who give birth prior to their incarceration are not eligible, though New York is an exception.

     

    Prison nursery - Wikipedia

    Wikipedia

     

    So if Esme weren't in NY, she would not be eligible, but NY is an exception.  That is interesting to know and that the writers actually went with reality on that.  Though it may not be a slam dunk and there could be a hearing about it.  If show goes there, I predict Esme's memory loss continues (or she suceessfully fakes through the hearing).

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