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1 hour ago, Jillybean said:
I'm so confused by the real-time voting. Does that mean only the East Coast viewers have the opportunity to vote? I'm not watching this ish live...NHL playoffs are going on, for crying out loud!
Those in MST and PST can vote in real-time on the app or on Twitter, provided they know to tune in at six (in MST) or five (in PST). I did just that on both nights.
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8 hours ago, shrewd.buddha said:
We finally got a look back at what's happening in the real world when AIDA saw that Mace's vitals had flat-lined. Being a robot, I am not sure why AIDA cares about keeping any of the Agents alive - it makes no difference to their lives in the Framework (see Radcliffe). ...Which makes it odd that dying in the Framework does affect the bodies back in the real world.
7 hours ago, CaptainTightpants said:I don't understand how Mace's physical body would have died. Getting killed in the framework is something like dying in a very vivid dream, I would assume.
But your brain activity doesn't simply stop because you think you get killed. It is a physical process, he should still be alive in the real world because his real body wasn't injured in any way. His brain should be working just fine.
I have to say that this development took me right out of the story.
If Aida had been monitoring the situation and turned him off when he dies in the framework that would make more sense. But it showed his brainwave activity flat line before that.
I just took the whole situation as the Framework being similar to The Matrix. In those movies, they always lived by the concept of the body being unable to live without the brain. The Framework must be the same. Mace's brain must've died since he thought he himself died, so the rest of his body followed, as well.
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52 minutes ago, wings707 said:
Does he have a new boot list with the different order?
No. He's being cute and releasing one or two boots at a time. He isn't even clear about the order between Hali and Ozzy. I'm thinking Hali is first, though, and Ozzy goes second.
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All right. Last update before I call it a night (or morning):
38. Hunter Plake - Team Gwen: "Elastic Heart"
60. Chris Blue - Team Alicia: "Love On the Brain"
61. Lauren Duski - Team Blake: "Someone Else’s Star"
82. Stephanie Rice - Team Alicia: "Every Breath You Take"
108. Brennley Brown - Team Gwen: "Fly"
159. Lilli Passero - Team Adam: "It’s Too Late"
179. Troy Ramey - Team Gwen: "A Case of You"
193. Vanessa Ferguson - Team Alicia: "Lean On"
222. Jesse Larson - Team Adam: "Sir Duke"
307. Aliyah Moulden - Team Blake: "Mercy"
342. Mark Isaiah - Team Adam: "All Time Low"
439. TSoul - Team Blake: "Knock On Wood"Hunter, Brennley, Stephanie, Lilli, Troy, Vanessa, Jesse, and Mark continue to rise, Chris stays about the same, and Lauren, Aliyah, and TSoul all fall.
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1 hour ago, LadyChatts said:
I just realized, wasn't this the season Jeff said they were going to try something different with the jury so bitter jurors couldn't influence the outcome? There was that one article at the start of last season, but he hasn't said anything about it since. If they do changes going forward, I wonder if it'll become known as the Brad Culpepper rule, especially if a bitter jury causes his man crush to lose this season.
They'll probably sequester them separately. Maybe. That way, they can't influence each other.
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So many callbacks in this episode.
The enhancement serum with gorilla metabolic enzymes and a hint of peppermint, like Crazy Cal's serum. Bakshi's voice as those kids were getting indoctrinated, saying familiar Hydra sayings. Tripp's camera and the mention of his grandfather.
Speaking of that last one . . . TRIPP! Oh, wow! When I saw B.J. Britt's name in the credits, I was so excited to see him! I hope he sticks around for a while in this arc!
Simmons's interactions with Ward are my everything. Sure, he's not the same Ward, but all she remembers is the one she knew, and she treats him accordingly. And yes, while it's good to be reminded that he was on their side for a time, I still don't need the real one back. His story is complete, so no need for him.
Daisy and Radcliffe's scene was nice, and while the latter is regretful and remorseful about all of this, it's still good to see that the former has no sympathy for him since this whole mess is his fault. And there is another way out! Awesome! Hope they can find it!
Really sad to lose Mace, and even sadder still that he died before finding out that this isn't the real world. But he went out like the hero he couldn't be in his actual life, so that's something.
The final scene with May and Daisy . . . wow. Can't wait to see how it kicks off next week!
Sad to lose Mace, and I hate that he went out before finding out that their current world wasn't real.
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2 hours ago, LanceM said:
SurvivorsUnite just posted that Hali and Ozzy are the next two boots. Ugh. Atleast Hali gets to be Queen of Ponderosa and a nice two and half week vacation again.
Damn. Poor Hali. First juror again (if she goes before Ozzy).
At least Michaela is safe for the time being. Wonder if she goes on the immunity run before she's cut? I can see her or perhaps Brad running the table.
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Another update:
45. Hunter Plake - Team Gwen: "Elastic Heart"
59. Lauren Duski - Team Blake: "Someone Else’s Star"
60. Chris Blue - Team Alicia: "Love On the Brain"
83. Stephanie Rice - Team Alicia: "Every Breath You Take"
113. Brennley Brown - Team Gwen: "Fly"
173. Lilli Passero - Team Adam: "It’s Too Late"
192. Troy Ramey - Team Gwen: "A Case of You"
198. Vanessa Ferguson - Team Alicia: "Lean On"
238. Jesse Larson - Team Adam: "Sir Duke"
294. Aliyah Moulden - Team Blake: "Mercy"
411. TSoul - Team Blake: "Knock On Wood"
426. Mark Isaiah - Team Adam: "All Time Low"Some of them have nosed up, while others have stayed the same. Aliyah's actually nosed down. The only position shift is that Troy has now gone past Vanessa.
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Nicole finally admitted her feelings for Brady. It's at least good to see them come together this time without any lies or schemes or manipulations like Nicole had tried when Brady was with Chloe and Arianna.
Still not into nuJade, but I love that her reactions were essentially "couldn't give a shit" when Claire was bitching and moaning about her fans losing interest in her.
Chad and Abigail do need some time apart to figure out what they want. I know Abigail wants Chad, but she knows that Chad needs time to figure out if he really wants her, too. As for Gabi . . . she'll get Chad for a while, I think, but it's clear the show's testing her with Eli (whom they also seem to be testing with Lani, despite each having a parent dating each other right now, which is a bit creepy).
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How the top twelve are charting thus far:
54. Hunter Plake - Team Gwen: "Elastic Heart"
59. Lauren Duski - Team Blake: "Someone Else’s Star"
61. Chris Blue - Team Alicia: "Love On the Brain"
83. Stephanie Rice - Team Alicia: "Every Breath You Take"
116. Brennley Brown - Team Gwen: "Fly"
177. Lilli Passero - Team Adam: "It’s Too Late"
198. Vanessa Ferguson - Team Alicia: "Lean On"
203. Troy Ramey - Team Gwen: "A Case of You"
241. Jesse Larson - Team Adam: "Sir Duke"
287. Aliyah Moulden - Team Blake: "Mercy"
413. TSoul - Team Blake: "Knock On Wood"
446. Mark Isaiah - Team Adam: "All Time Low"Hardly an indicator of how the entire season will shake down from here, but with an early glance . . . it looks good for Gwen and Alicia's chances of having one of them get their first win. The only real threat to them seems to be Lauren from Blake's team. Lilli might be the only real threat Adam can pose, but even then, I can only see her reaching the semifinals, not the finale. Blake and Adam are otherwise cellar-dwelling for what has to be the first time ever.
1 hour ago, Dots And Stripes said:There is no right and wrong. We all have our opinions about this silly reality show. Please try to respect that.
My apologies. Tonight's results just hit me way harder than I thought, and I'm not dealing with it as well as I'd hoped to.
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1 minute ago, Dots And Stripes said:
America may love Hunter and Brennley but I sure don't. For me, Team Adam easily had the stronger night, and I say that as someone who roots against Adam.
Well, it's fortunate that America isn't one person, isn't it? Because they, not you, got it right.
8 minutes ago, PhD-Purgatory15 said:At this point though, I think the four chairs goodwill for JChosen and Troy was kind of out the window. And I think (trying to get in the head of Gwen) they both had been surpassed by both Brennley and Hunter in her eyes.
If I was giving the "tiebreaker" edge between Troy and JChosen, I say it goes to Troy because he's been solid (if not spectacular) every single round. JChosen has been uneven (I think the stress from his mother's stroke had to have bled into his time and mindset for the Voice) every round except the KO when he was quite good. Troy also doesn't have a comparable artist (maybe Stephanie is his closest) in the Top 12 now that the competition moves from an intra-team to a inter-team battle, whereas for JChosen you have Chris casting a large shadow out there, and TSoul lingering too.
Sadly, you may be right about all of that. I totally forgot that JChosen would've had to compete with Chris and possibly TSoul for the R&B/soul vote. Maybe Vanessa, too. At least by picking Troy, Gwen picked someone with an open lane.
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9 minutes ago, PhD-Purgatory15 said:
Troy was solid (bonus points for the Joni Mitchell song choice for sure), and I'm glad he got the nod over JChosen who I just didn't feel was a good match for that song.
To be honest, even if Troy was stronger tonight, I still think that Gwen, for sake of fanbase, should've advanced JChosen, @PhD-Purgatory15. And it even looked like she was going to. If you look at her face when she was addressing him just prior to her choice, she really looked like she wanted to. (Even the studio audience was yelling at her to put him through!) But I think she let Alicia get in her head about Troy. Nothing particularly wrong with it, per se, as Troy does seem to be better-received, at least this week.
But her problem for some time has been that she seems to let the other coaches get in her head rather than go with her gut. (For example, I will forever think that Lyndsey Elm got screwed three seasons ago because Blake badly got in her head about Braiden Sunshine.) At least now that the coaches don't make the choices anymore, we won't have to worry about that from her.
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iTunes thus far, with the eliminated artists included for now:
65 Hunter Plake Elastic Heart
141 Brennley Brown Fly
209 Lilli Passero It’s Too Late
241 Troy Ramey A Case of You
307 Jesse Larson Sir Duke
361 Josh West More Than a Feeling
395 Johnny Hayes Ain’t Too Proud To Beg
434 Quizz Swanigan My Girl
473 JChosen Nothing Compares 2 U
582 Johnny Gates Hands To Myself
583 Mark Isaiah All Time Low
853 Hanna Eyre Skyscraper
Will update later with only the six who got through.Assuming Gwen was following this throughout the show, which she probably was, since I saw her phone at one point, it's easier to see why Troy made it through and make peace with JChosen being gone. Troy was indeed third of Gwen's team, and JChosen was next-to-last. Assuming Adam was also checking it, it's a mystery as to why he saved Mark since he was next-to-last for Team Adam. Even bigger surprise that Josh got so high when he was subpar.
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Also, one more thing.
With JChosen and Josh now eliminated, Troy is the last four-chair-turn left in the game. And since I doubt he has the fan following to win, I think season twelve will be the first season to be guaranteed not to be won by a four-chair-turn, as I think he'll be gone sooner rather than later.
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1 hour ago, Dots And Stripes said:
I still like Johnny and JChosen at least had a good arrangement. I am so unenthusiastic about Team Gwen now.
Gwen may have weakened her team a fair bit by not choosing either of them for her coach save. Troy did well, but he was last on the Twitter votes. I guess he got the nod, though, because he was third on iTunes for her team, behind Brennley and Hunter. JChosen and Johnny were far more popular with the viewers (especially with the story of JChosen's mother being able to provide some sympathy), and one of them should've gotten the save, not Troy.
1 hour ago, Dots And Stripes said:Team Adam had a better night.
Uh . . . what? Other than Lilli, that team was tragic, even more so than Blake's team last night.
But more on that with my analyses:
Johnny G.: I thought he did a fairly interesting take on a Selena Gomez hit. He sounded pretty damn good. He turned a pop song into a rock song and was damn near perfect at it. Still wish he had gotten another chance from Gwen.
Troy: A solid, if unspectacular performance. His voice was strong and clear, and once again, he gave a nice arrangement of a Joni Mitchell song. Problem was, he wasn't the most engaging. Now that he's through, he's going to need to work on his personality and stage presence if he hopes to attract voters for himself and for Gwen.
Quizz: I was a bit tentative when I realized he was going to take "My Girl" at such a slow tempo. But it helped him showcase his vocals and his stage presence that way, so it wasn't bad at all. Still not great, but at least decent. Still wasn't good enough to get through for me, though.
Brennley: Brennley goes to a charter school? . . . Huh. Anyway, I don't hear the enunciation problems you mentioned, @Dots And Stripes. She sounded fine to me. Actually, her voice was so damn wonderful, I nearly cried. As @Noreaster said (literally one of the few things on which I will ever agree with her), she has star quality. She has the voice and stage presence to go with it. I can see her lasting a long time. I think it'll be a fight to be last country singer standing between herself and Lauren.
JChosen: First of all, glad his mother is doing much better. Second of all, I think this Prince song was a good one for him. He did very well with it in such a way that I think that Prince would be proud of him. However, he should've gone for it in the second half a bit more than he actually did. Still a strong voice and a strong performance, but his intimidation over the song was obvious. In other words, I do think he did a good job. But he really could've done better than he did.
Hunter: Probably the best or second-best of the team tonight. I was engaged from start to finish. His voice is so strong, so clear, and so pleasing to the ear. I was surprised that he did so well on a Sia song. She's just, to quote Christina, "this rare, strange, amazing, exotic bird," and taking her songs can be risky. But Troy rose to the challenge with Chandelier, and since this is Gwen's team, I had a feeling that Hunter could do it, and he did. A slight comedown from his Battle and Knockout, but still very good. And he's already charting high on iTunes, so clearly the country agrees! And to make the top thirty twice, even before the Lives? Crazy! Fucking crazy! I think Gwen really did steal a good one from Alicia. (She must be kicking herself for letting him go by now.) He's one who should hopefully carry her to the end, and even to a win! Go, Hunter! Go, Gwen!
Johnny H.: Not too bad of a performance. Actually, the first performance of his I didn't ignore. His vocals were very good, at least. But it was still fairly underwhelming, even for a Rolling Stones song. Surprised he got as many Twitter votes as he did.
Hanna: Oh, Hanna. I was expecting so much more from her after her excellent Knockout, especially since she was covering a Demi Lovato song. But she was clearly nervous, and it showed. It was actually great in spots, but very weak in others. I think this performance sealed her fate. And yeah, @Babalooie, I agree. Adam's words to her definitely made it sound like she was taste if she didn't get the fan vote, and she knew it, too. But . . . she picked Adam, who favors his boys over his girls, so she got what she deserved.
Josh: He took a popular Boston song and completely wrecked it. Plain and simple. I still don't know how he beat Johnny H. in their Knockout. His performance then was subpar and off-key, and in this one, he was drowned out by the band and off-key once again. How did he even turn all four chairs?! He never should've gotten this far!
Mark: Jon Bellion did not deserve that. I do not get your vote for him, @Noreaster. That was another terrible job. Even Adam subtly admitted he sucked (asking for more time with him pretty much hints that he didn't like it, or he did like it, but he didn't love it). Got really lucky that Adam wanted to please the fangirls and the teenyboppers out there.
Lilli: Probably the best one from the team tonight. Songs from Carole King's era are her specialty, and she really showed it. I hope Alicia is kicking herself for letting her go, too, because her voice and performance were both incredible. She's going far, which half-disappoints me, as Adam's team having anyone go far makes me ill.
Jesse: No. Just no. Another one of my favorite songs, and he totally didn't live up to the original. I don't know why Adam was praising him so much. He wasn't good at all.
19 minutes ago, LakeGal said:Adam made it very clear to the voters who he wanted in his final 3. He got that 3. I felt bad for the others on his team when they heard that.
Adam's a jerk to broadcast it like that. Strategically, it helped him get what he wanted, obviously, but it was hugely disrespectful to Hanna, Johnny H., and Josh.
So when it came down to elimination time, I knew that Mark would either get voted through for Adam's team, or he'd get his save. Lilli was crushing the Twitter vote, so I knew she'd make it. Jesse was a huge surprise, because I didn't think he did that well at all. Hanna crashed and burned, as did Josh, so they weren't getting the save. And I really don't want another Nick Hagelin/Daniel Passino debacle, so I'm okay with Johnny H. not getting through.
With Gwen's team, Hunter and Brennley were always going to make it through. That's been obvious since their Battles and Knockouts. But Gwen, I think, really missed a trick by not saving JChosen, probably her third most popular contestant, or Johnny G., her fourth-most popular one. He could actually have gotten past a few votes. Troy, on the other hand, is easy elimination at either top twelve or eleven. Maybe ten, if he gets lucky enough. Quizz was dead in the water, even though he, quite shockingly, didn't have the lowest count of Twitter votes.
So the top twelve's locked in. Let's how things shake out next week, I guess.
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Songs for tonight:
Team Adam
Hanna: "Skyscraper" by Demi Lovato (excellent choice for her)
Jesse: "Sir Duke" by Stevie Wonder
Johnny H.: "Ain't Too Proud to Beg" by The Rolling Stones
Josh: "More than a Feeling" by Boston
Lilli: "It's Too Late" by Carole King
Mark: "All Time Low" by Jon BellionTeam Gwen
Brennley: "Fly" by Maddie & Tae
Hunter: "Elastic Heart" by Sia
JChosen: "Nothing Compares 2U" by Prince
Johnny G.: "Hands to Myself" by Selena Gomez (WHAT?!)
Quizz: "My Girl" by The Temptations
Troy: "A Case of You" by Joni MitchellOn Team Adam, I think Hanna, Jesse, and Lilli picked the perfect songs for their particular genres or niches. I hope at least two of them get voted through. Johnny H. is admittedly doing a good song for himself, too, though, and could also get the vote. Jon Bellion does not deserve the disrespect that Mark is going to give him. As for Josh . . . eh. Never heard the song, but it's probably hard rock, so he should do it well. But resentment for Johnny H. going home over him could definitely affect his votes.
On Team Gwen, I heard all of their previews. I definitely think that Brennley, Hunter, JChosen, and Troy sound excellent, and some combination of those four should get the public vote. Johnny G. . . . I don't know what he was thinking, taking a pop song over a rock song. Gwen was probably doing some serious bussing to make sure that her chosen three got through and he doesn't. Quizz sounds like . . . Quizz. Don't think he has a chance. He has enough resentment for getting as far as he has.
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8 hours ago, Keekski said:
I like him much more than Josh!
Well, that's understandable!:-P
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Last update for now before I turn in:
58. Lauren Duski - "Someone Else’s Star"
66. Chris Blue - "Love on the Brain"
106. Stephanie Rice - "Every Breath You Take"
188. Vanessa Ferguson - "Lean On"
225. Aliyah Moulden - "Mercy"
343. TSoul - "Knock on Wood" (this one's already dropped rather than risen)With the other six gone, I realize I don't really need to concern myself with them, so I left them off this time and have even edited them out in my post above.
Also, not a good sign for TSoul in the long-term if he's already dropping while the others are still rising, whether greatly or steadily.
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I think they need to have sound checks with the band to make sure the artists aren't so drowned out in the future.
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Current iTunes results:
61. Lauren Duski - "Someone Else’s Star"
74. Chris Blue - "Love on the Brain"
129. Stephanie Rice - "Every Breath You Take"
204. Vanessa Ferguson - "Lean On"
228. Aliyah Moulden - "Mercy"
339. TSoul - "Knock on Wood"I guess this cements Lauren as Blake's main contender, and Chris as Alicia's. Stephanie and Vanessa might be around a while, too. TSoul and Aliyah I can see falling out relatively soon, though.
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1 hour ago, PhD-Purgatory15 said:
Regardless, I don't feel near as confident picking who America will vote through on Gwen or Adam's teams tomorrow night.....they each feel much more wide open than tonight's competitions.
Because Adam's team is so weak compared to the other three, I can agree about this being wide open for them. Anyone could surpass anyone for the fan vote (though I think Mark's getting through, for sure, thanks to teen girl and teenybopper vote). Gwen's team I still believe is the strongest, but based on fan followings, I absolutely would be surprised if anyone but some combination of her four most popular artists, Brennley, Hunter, JChosen, and (I'm just not gonna bother hiding his name anymore) Johnny G., get through. It really is a four-horse race among them. I can't imagine Troy or Quizz having much of a chance tomorrow.
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3 hours ago, Bringonthedrama said:
When Carly was going on to Jax (in that voice of dismay she has) that Michael is kind, forgiving etc. and Nelle will take advantage of that ... it was SUCH a wasted opportunity to not have that conversation in public, where Tracy could overhear and wander by, saying "Yes, you only appreciate those qualities in Michael when you want him to get over something reprehensible that you and Sonny have done. You see them as weaknesses when they don't suit your agenda."
I still remember what she said to her back when Carly tried to be indignant over Michael giving Sabrina a second chance: "You don't think Sabrina is good enough for Michael? Why don't you and I take a little walk down memory lane?"
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7 minutes ago, PhD-Purgatory15 said:
Somewhat surprised that Blake bailed on Casi, although clearing the path for Lauren to be the only country artist out of the entire Top 12 virtually guarantees she's getting to the finale. So that makes a lot of sense from Blake's perspective.
Op-op-op! You forget one tiny detail, @PhD-Purgatory15. Brennley is still around and could very easily survive tomorrow's episode. At that point, Lauren has competition in the country lane.
8 minutes ago, PhD-Purgatory15 said:Vanessa...yay for an interesting song choice and interesting arrangement/performance. She's slowly getting back in my good graces lol.
On a side note, did you see her face when she got through? Priceless! She clearly thought that either Stephanie or Anatalia had the second spot.
Ah, well. On the plus side, I'm just glad that neither of the Comebacks made it through. These people worked their asses off to get this far without needing the lifeline, so they deserve to not have to worry about getting upended by someone coming back after having been eliminated fair and square during the pretaped stages of the game. I know I'd previously said that I'd have been okay with Felicia getting through, but . . . that was before that atrocious song choice. Yikes.
However, either or both Comebacks for tomorrow's show has a decent chance of upsetting their teams' apple carts.
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From TV Guide:
The playoffs continue as the top twenty-four artists from the remaining two teams perform in front of coaches Alicia Keys, Adam Levin, Blake Shelton, and Gwen Stefani for their chance at a spot in the top twelve. Each coach brings back one eliminated artist from their own teams to compete. Votes are cast through real-time voting, and two artists from each team advance to the next round by audience vote. The coaches can each advance one more artist of their choice from their teams.
Well, now that Team Alicia and Team Blake have performed, that means it's time for Team Adam and Team Gwen to take their turns. Still hoping that Team Gwen goes second. Otherwise, it's a dull second hour if Team Adam does.
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S12.E18: The Live Playoffs, Night 2
in The Voice (US)
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At this point, looking at the high numbers for Hunter, Chris, and Lauren, I have no doubt they've all punched their tickets to the finale unless something really drastic happens to them or their performances. So I'm just imagining and wondering what their coach duets with Gwen, Alicia, and Blake, respectively will be. And, for that matter, who's going to have to fight for that fourth spot and just finish fourth behind them (if it shakes down that way).