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Simba122504

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  1. But the creator always said it was a love letter to telenovelas. It is a telenovela. Jane and Rafeal needed another big obstacle before the end. The trope says so. And I know we all find tropes annoying but every series uses them. The seeds were planted before the big reveal in 4x17. Rafeal was actually called Jane's "One True Love" in S1. And we know Jane's love for Michael was very real but TPTB still put that in there. He even was called her "muse" and "romantic hero." She said Rafeal made her forget about Michael's anniversary. Of course the husband was going to return from the dead with amnesia!
  2. Given it's a telenovela. What's bigger than bringing Jane's husband back from the dead to challenge the main couple one more time? Because we know they were not going to be happy for all 18 scripted episodes. Nothing else could measure up to it. Why not bring back the ultimate question using a classic soap trope? Jennie already decided to bring Michael before S3 was over. I think some actually thought the endgame was changing, even though it was set in stone since the pilot. They wanted to tell the audience one last time that Jane and Rafael were going to happen no matter what. No matter what you throw at them, they were always going to end up together. And TPTB used two classic tropes they haven't used yet to say it. It couldn't be Adam or Abby or Sam (remember him?) or Catalina. As controversial as it turned out to be. It the world of soaps, it was right on the money. *I'll send that draft today*
  3. Those things are correct too. A few things were different. You can download the whole thing online. Just *Google* it and it pops up. That's what I did. If you never read the original season 3 draft. You can find it on Reddit. If you want me to send you a link I will. I won't be able to do it until tomorrow. You can download that too. Things were also changed. Some subplots in that season was removed or changed.
  4. My heart is full. The wedding was beautiful. They got me. 😭 Jane and Rafael not being able to to read their vows, "Una Flor" playing when Jane steps off the bus, all versions of Jane walking down the aisle and the opening lines coming back to include Rafeal. I'm a mess. The wedding felt real. The series does weddings well but this one felt real once you remove the television hijinks leading up to it. I love that the entire extended family was there. The first time this has ever happened at a JTV wedding. I also love that all of Jane's living grandparents were there. Also never happened before. 4 grandparents. Alba, step grandpa Jorge, Rita and Rogelio's father. Mateo Sr. was there in spirit. I always knew Mateo was the LLN. Hint after hint after hint was dropped since S1. I knew JR was returning. It's a telenovela and of course social media. Rafeal parents were normal people! Of course if there was S6, we would have found out that the accident was really murder or some other soap opera shit. Thank God it was announced in the series finale. His late parents were regular folk. They joked about the Rose theory. Telenovelas are predictable. Television in general is predictable. JTV had a perfect telenovela ending. After all the shit Rafael and Jane went through. They deserved a happy ending with no drama. They're the main couple. Good characters get happy endings. Petra is really a triplet? She has a brother too! Classic soap trope. I'm going to miss this unique, brilliant series. I'm going to miss Jafael more. But I have always believed nothing should go beyond 5/6 seasons and Jennie's plan was 5 seasons.
  5. In the original pilot script for this version, Jane was originally like 14/15/16 (I forgot which one) when she first kissed Rafeal. But it was changed to 18. On this American remake, Rafael is only 7 years older than Jane. She was 18, he was 25 when they first kissed. Some would still view that as uncomfortable but at least she was of a legal age everywhere.
  6. Oh, Yes, they did. I actually noticed this awhile ago. It took awhile to remember it and write it out because I had to think back while writing it. So if I ever find my old post from another site I’ll PM it to you if you don’t mind. It’s things you wouldn’t really think about when it first happened. It includes all Jane and Rafael’s non J/R romances.
  7. Rafael was still the male lead and the other half of the OTP even if you didn’t like him, though. They even made Jane’s romantic relationships about him. Same with his romantic relationships. Made them about Jane. It’s okay that you didn’t like him. The series never gave Michael any history outside of Jane and the Rose case.
  8. Area 51. Rose is only 14 years older than him and Luisa was her obsession. Rafael is now 37 years old. There are no 13 year olds walking around pregnant on JTV. Rafael was also born in Italy. Rose was the stepdaughter of Rafael’s faux mama. Rose got pregnant at 13 in the early eighties, somewhere down the line her family leaves Italy for America. Elena happens to come across that same newborn baby in Italy and brings him home, then some years after that, marries Rafael’s birth mother’s father without any of them knowing that. She also fell in love with her son’s sister. Talk about destiny! 😂😂
  9. I’m so upset with that unresolved subplot. I’ll take Luisa saying she found them. Anything to close it. Don’t make it a big part of the series if you didn’t plan on doing anything with it. I would have preferred he remain Emilio’s biological son and find another way for him to lose his money. Say Emilio made all of his money illegally or never paid the IRS. That’s still soapy.
  10. Of course Jane's relationship with Xo and Alba is a big part of the series too. Jane and Rogelio too. But Rafael is that dude. He's the male lead, her muse and romantic hero. The show's words not mine. The series doesn't even exist if his sister doesn't make that medical mistake. *I agree with you, by the way*
  11. I always noticed that he was the first male character introduced in her story. We get the prologue which introduces Jane, Alba and Xo. Jane is then shown making out with Michael, but there's no introduction or type up. Rogelio is shown on television but Jane nor the audience knows who that is yet. Then we're introduced to Rafael Solano after some romantic stuff is said. Literally through a telenovela. Then we're introduced to Petra, Luisa and finally Rogelio. He's the first person she told her dream aloud to. Also the first time we see a heart glow, it's when she's near Rafael. It's Jane's story first, but he's the other half of the OTP and everything leads back to him. Mateo, her writing, her love of telenovelas and romance novels.
  12. The LLN is gay. Confirmed. He doesn’t have any kids which were mentioned some episodes back. He’s single, childfree and gay. Michael theory confirmed. He returned with a pregnant Charlie and they’re getting married. That’s was his unexpected news. Another theory someone mentioned awhile back was confirmed. Rose is older than we thought so what’s the timeline when it comes to Rose’s father being married to Rafael’s faux mama when Rose was young? That means she was born in 1970. Elena secretly brought Rafael from Italy in 1984 when she was already married to Emilio. How old did Rose look in that S2 photo with her father? Ugh. Another theory I had for a while was confirmed. Luisa would be the one to end Rose once and for all. Luisa was her weakness. And she’s dead for real this time. 🔥 She died like faux Roman. Very clever writers. Another theory I had for a while was confirmed. Jane and Rose will have their big long-awaited big scene close to the end of the series. I wonder if the part Jane took out was, “The last breath” line? Michael won’t die being in love with Jane. IDK. It was a full-circle moment with Jane and Rafael thinking Michael wanted her back and was still in love with her. Michael believed Rafael was still in love with Jane in 3x02 but Rafael shocked Jane by saying he was over her. Also, Rafael is no longer threatened by Michael and Michael was no longer threatened by Rafael in S2. Both men doing different points got over that. I think I’m in love with Esteban. 😂 That move by him and Darci brilliant. Another full-circle moment was Jane and Rafael. For a very long time, Rafael was obsessed with the Marbella and everything that comes with it. He and Jane fought about him being away from their future family a lot in S1. Rafael was not going to give that up even though it meant being away from Jane and Mateo a lot. They would live large off his dedication to the Marbella. But a big part of him also wanted a real family but he also still wanted the Marbella. Now, Rafael is willing to let the Marbella go even if it means having a small life which he was against in S4. Having something he has always wanted since childhood is more important. A real family. And just when he accepts this, Jane gets 500k which is more money than she has ever seen in her life. So they still end up in the money. Thanks, Rose for that parting gift. So beautiful that Luisa and Rafael are back where they started. In a good place and truly love and trust each other. Xo and Rogelio must be really moving to NYC. Rogelio convinced Darci to go move back to New York, D&E scheming so Esteban can get a big role on TIS and Xo applying to nursing school there. I didn’t understand the feather? Was it supposed to stand in place of petals? How would Rafael even see that? I think he noticed her hand jesters? The camera closed in on it so it meant something? Brett and his real-life love Haley actually survived the curse. They had great chemistry onscreen, even though they're real-life couple.
  13. It was because he will never as long as he’s breathing accept Rose’s evil ass. He lied about the cancer because it was the only way for the police to capture Rose.
  14. I know this will always sound silly since it’s a telenovela. But I hate how quickly characters fall in love. I can understand Danny and Alicia having a strong attraction to each other but not love yet. They’re still strangers and haven’t even really opened up to each other yet. Danny understandably cannot even tell Alicia the truth yet. Let them build something first. Even with Danny’s secret which of course would cause their first dramatic break up. lol Thank God the cat is out of the bag! Javi, You are not the father but boy were you dumb. Your father asked for a DNA test before you ever did! You never asked for one, even though you’re the son of a rich hotel owner. Now, when he actually impregnates an honest woman, he’s not going to trust it and will demand a test asap. Will Danny’s ex girlfriend find him and blow his cover?
  15. I don’t blame them. I mean I love my mom’s best friend but I don’t want her as my stepmom. After my mom dies, my father marries her bff?! Out of the women in the world? And I know things are not black and white but fuck that. You don’t go there. Same goes for my mom marrying my dad’s best friend.
  16. I didn't even think about all that. I don't think Petra is moving. No, he would not be okay with that. Yeah, It's still in the South but it's not next door. It's a 17 hour drive in a car. And you cannot keep sending them back and forth. They would have to live with one most of the year and spend summers and some holidays with the other parent. There's no other way around it. That's another custody discussion. Because now that shit has to be worked out. Remember Rafael was upset when Jane was going to move far in S2? Yes, to Baby too. She too would have to be put in the situation as the twins. Rogelio will miss so much with her and he already went through that with Jane. He will miss a lot with Mateo too. That's why he wanted another child so bad. He didn't raise Jane. Xo worked hard to get into nursing school in Florida. Even if she agrees to the move. She has to start over in NYC. Or she would have to kill her dream and be a stay at home wife which she just came out of. Yeah, he would have the funds to go whatever he wants but he still will miss stuff. You cannot be two places at once.
  17. I'm calling bullshit on what River told Rogelio. That's not even realistic. If anything it would push the project back because they would have to recast her. The project would die without Rogelio because it's his passion project. It's been for years. Remember he asked her to come back to the project after the pilot was retooled. The network passed on the first version. It was dead until the retooled "This Is Mars" version was picked up by the network. The new version he pitched to them. He could have suggested another actress before going to her. The network could have even gone with a different female lead since this a totally different version. She could never recast Rogelio since it's his passion project that he fought to get made. Also, No one's contract says you can move production wherever you want. What? This why actors leave a series or the series comes to an end after many seasons because the lead is tired of being so far away from family and friends. It took David Duchovny six seasons to convince TPTB to move TXF to LA because he wanted to be closer to his wife. Only TPTB (Creators, Producers, the Network) get to decide if production should be moved. So many different factors play a role in a series being relocated. Actors even leave when a series is moved to somewhere they do not want to live for most of the year depending on if it's cable or network television because the episode count and shooting schedule various. I know television needs some lame excuse to move two characters out of state in the series finale. Or tease two characters possibly moving out of state in the series finale. You know it's a well-known trope. But use something that makes sense. Say the network wants to move the series for whatever reason. 1. It would be cheaper. I doubt it the end for Luisa and Rafael. The classic telenovela ending is them reuniting and Luisa attending the wedding. I have a feeling Michael will come back next week to help with Rose.
  18. The Maimi PD is awarded the award for making the cast of police academy look like Kojak. No wonder Michael was a terrible detective. The entire force is full of clowns. Oh, and Rose has surpassed every Bond and comic book villian ever.
  19. Would you honestly accept your father marrying your mom's best friend? No matter how close you are to her. She’s still your mom's best friend. You just don't go there, even though life is complicated and shit happens. That's hard to accept and honestly I personally would never truly accept it. I'm happy there's a thread. What is Mateo hiding? What happened to Sky? Will Dalicia? finally get it on? Will Javi find out that's not his damn baby? I already ship Danny & Alicia. I hope it gets a S2.
  20. Yes, his table came with the apartment. It's a booth.
  21. No, he's still on the meds because it was mentioned in 5x11. I doubt Mateo's ADHD will go away but it doesn't have to be mentioned every second. Same with Rafeal's meds. We know already. Only 3 scripted episodes are left.
  22. 3 episodes because 5x18 is not a traditional episode because it's a special/ retrospective. There are 18 scripted episodes and one special. 5x19 is the series finale. 5x18 is the special episode. No, only 3 episodes. 5x18 is the special that will air before the series finale which is 5x19. Both will July 31st.
  23. But she still did it. Married Jorge to keep him in the country. Something she would have never done back in S1. And I mentioned Jane marrying two couples. Neither one took place in a church but it was still legal. Alba loves Jafael. She’s the perfect person and Jane & Rafael are getting married outdoors.
  24. Alba has been pro Rafael since S1. She’s captain of team Rafael. Nobody is more perfect than her. Yes, Alba has changed. She was even fine with Jane getting a divorce in S5A. Jane married her parents and Alba didn’t protest. Alba let Jane marry her and Jorge just so he could stay in the country. Why would Alba not want to marry Jane and Rafael? The one who’s her favorite in the love triangle.
  25. If Petra is self made then so is Trump. 😆 Petra only got a piece of the Marbella through Milos. Yes, Rafael used his trust fund to build the Marbella but it wasn’t given to him. He worked hard and was obsessed with that damn hotel. It was his vision. Petra gets no piece of original recipe Marbella without her crazy ex giving her shares in S1. She married Rafael for his money. Krishna didn’t have to give her those shares and most people would have not given their rich shitty boss those shares. Yes, this version of the Marbella is her baby but she (really the writers) were on some bullshit with the “rich daddy” line.
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