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I doubt this series will go beyond the one season, and I'm glad Robbie wrapped it up so that it could stand as a limited series - though there is an opening if they find a new home for it. The garbage network that the CW is turning into isn't honestly one I want anything I like to watch to be a part of. Eventually Nexstar is going to dump all original programming, except for what they can buy second hand from Canada, probably. But Jensen did what he wanted to do - devise the perfect FIXIT! It doesn't mess with the OG series - Singer and Dabb did enough of a number on that all by themselves anyway. Frankly all the showrunners after Kripke made the series just a little bit less each time - until Dabb and Singer let the whole thing bleed out. And yet, Jensen and Robbie kept Dabb's crappy finale intact, just improved upon it, in particular where it concerns Dean - which Jensen damn well deserved to do. The big surprise for me was in seeing Bobby and Jack again - especially Jack. I wasn't a fan of the character at all - and yet, it worked here precisely because he was part of Dabb's 'verse. And again, Robbie improved upon him, just enough. We even heard about Chuck again - and the Akrida as his fail safe to destroy all the worlds should he cease to exist or lose his status as god makes a lot of sense, as does the fact that this whole 'verse was just one of many, because we already saw that the multiverse existed in the last season of SPN. Of course, most fans figured that out right away - it was the only thing that made sense. And Dean, being Dean Winchester forever until eternity, couldn't help but want to save Sam and his parents. Because that is who Dean is and always was. And kudos to Jensen and Danneel for snagging the music rights to some awesome tunes! All in all, it was a perfect finale, especially because it fixed Dabb's hot mess.

Other than the fact that I don't see how they're going to wrap up this storyline next week, I liked this one more than last week's if for no other reason than clowns are always terrifying. And it was cool that they actually managed to save everyone who ever disappeared into Limbo's realm, even though most of them were suddenly way out of time. I do think the Limbo thing is a clue as to what's happening, most likely to Dean. I liked seeing more of Ada, and of course connecting with Rowena was all kinds of awesome. We can never have enough Rowena. If the series survives to a second season, my guess is that Ada will go a little darkside missing part of her soul. I continue to maintain that John and Mary should never have hooked up. I still doubt that's the message they're trying to convey here, but for me that's very much canon - they shouldn't have hooked up in the OG series either. So we got a little bit of a different mix with the character pairings this week, but I'd want a lot more if there's a second season.

I like the pairing of Carlos and Lata, because I do think they're two of the best characters, but I do wish they would have mixed it up more this season between the characters. ITA that Lata's story was a little overwrought, and certainly nothing she should have felt guilty about. Her parents were the worst, the servant's death was on them, not on Lata as a child. So I thought that was a bit much. I did like that they redeemed Betty - I was afraid her jealousy was turning her into an unreasonable shrew. And of course, as always, Millie rocks. I want a lot more Millie if there's a second season. I also agree that we needed more cases of the week this year.

I love Millie, and it does feel like Dean is most like her where it concerns his grandparents - at least in this universe. So I'm happy in that regard. More and more I'm feeling like the Akrida are a stand-in for the angels in this timeline, especially with the confirmation that they've come and gone throughout the years. Or they could be standing in for the Knights of Hell, since it doesn't sound like the MoL were wiped out by Abaddon, as they were in the OG 'verse. Either way, I feel like the Akrida are taking the place for someone/something else that doesn't seem to exist in this timeline. Carlos and Lata are turning into my favorite pair-up.

This one wasn't as solid as last week's episode, but there are things I liked about it. The Back to the Future nod with mama inadvertently noticing her adult son is hot was funny. Carlos's holy water hair flip was glorious - even though I don't recall now if vamps are supposed to be affected by holy water. Makes sense they would be, I guess. And Millie is an all around awesome character, and we definitely need a lot more of her. I started to wonder last night if the Dean who delivered the letter to John was alive at the time this is supposed to have happened, via another ItB type of time jump, and is telling the tale now that he's dead, instead of somehow coming back to earth to try and change the timeline after he's dead as I originally thought.

I loved that line to Mary too. Hilarious! I watched this episode again last night with a SPN friend, and we both think this iteration of the character was the real Loki, and not Gabriel having taken over the persona - at least, not yet. As you pointed out, there was no "just desserts" approach to the person(s) being targeted. It was cruelty for cruelty's sake. Then there's the way Carlos defeated the game - no one ever defeated the archangel, except Dean and Sam in Changing Channels when they finally figured out who he really was. This was different, and Loki legitimately looks to have been trapped. There was no after scene with him skipping out because he wasn't really Loki. So this time I do think we were dealing with the demigod and not the archangel. Things are slightly out of whack from what we know in the OG 'verse, so it would make sense that Loki would be a different character too.

I thought this episode was excellent - probably the best of the season so far. Everyone was on point, and I thought Welling did a really good job bringing in Pileggi's gruff take on the character from ItB. He was honestly better than I hoped. And it is interesting that Deanna remains a very background/off screen character, more than she was in ItB - though even there she was minor - but much like when Gamble brought Samuel back in season 6 and completely ruined him. In that season you would never have known Mary had a mother or what her name was if you never saw ItB. In this episode Mary does continue to be more important to Samuel than the wife he never mentions - maybe because she's his only child, but not in the uber creepy way she was to Gamble's Samuel in S6. Yet Mary names her first born after her mother and not her father. I always thought that was eye-opening considering how little Deanna is ever mentioned in canon. But I definitely felt a spark between Samuel and Millie. Honestly, they would have made a good team. My feeling from the beginning was that it was either an angel/Cas or it was Dean who gave John the letter; and I admit my first choice would have been Dean, so yay! If the Trickster is still ultimately Gabriel in this iteration, it's interesting that he was caught with the mirror designed to capture a Trickster. I assume he was faking it for reasons, but if this is a different timeline/universe, maybe the Trickster is different from the OG 'verse and not Gabriel after all. I honestly wondered if JoJo could actually sing, and I loved that they gave him a chance at the end, with Louden Swain in bad 70's wigs backing him up. Cool! All in all, I really dug this one.

I like Millie and I like how they're bringing her into the fold. I also really like the regular Scooby Gang aspect of this series. I get how Carlos is feeling - it would be sad to break up the group and go their separate ways. So Roxy was just the head mouthpiece - I wonder if "the Queen" is going to take on the shape of someone we have known before? I still think John received the letter either from an angel, like Cas, or from Dean himself. Finally Tom Welling comes into the mix. Welling is a little like comfort food - I'm looking forward to seeing more of him when the show comes back. I'm not convinced John and Mary are a good fit, but then I never thought so either in the original series - honestly, even less there. I doubt that's the message the series intends to convey, but given all we have seen and known from the original series to this one, I think the case can be made that these two people probably never should have been thrown together. It was lovely seeing Gil/Henry again.

I watched this one on the road, on my phone, during my Thanksgiving travels, so I don't think it has stuck with me. Too much else going on. But I always love me a vengeful spirit. I just think it was a little too easy taking him down in the end. Obviously hunters do their best, but can make bad calls too, and this one came back to bite them in the ass. I wanted more actual details about what happened in Latika's past rather than alluding to it, but maybe later. But the whole mediation angle was cool. And we can never have enough of Carlos flirting. Sounds like Samuel and Deanna weren't exactly couple of the year - much like John and Mary in the original timeline. Apparently a hunting lifestyle is not conducive to a fully functioning, happy marriage. Interesting, but not really surprising.

The best part of this episode was giving Ada more to do and getting more insight into her backstory. I thought she was supposed to be older than the rest of the gang, and now we have confirmation that she is. And I liked her son - I'm glad he wasn't the bad guy in this story. I think Meg and Drake have a decent amount of chemistry - that's not my problem with their story. It's the back and forth where one is mooning over the other each week, but no one talks about what they're feeling. I hate that trope. OTOH, this all works if the point is that these two people really should never have been together in the first place. We'll have to see where Robbie is going with the relationship when the dust settles. But when Dabb reinvented Mary, it very definitely felt like she and John had no business ever being together. Maybe it really is all about angel interference. I like the chick playing the Akrida vessel - or whatever she's supposed to be. Mary's childhood story is not really unlike Dean's at the same age. Almost a mirror. Millie always rocks.

Late with the thoughts, but unsurprisingly I'm just enjoying the ride here, especially knowing we only have 13 episodes - hopefully, that is, for this season. Fingers crossed. Weirdly the show feels like Supernatural, but at the same time very much like its own thing in its own universe - which, until we get the reveals in the last episode, is how I'm looking at it. The big surprise in this episode was Carlos's backstory as a vet, how he got arrested, did the service option, and how despite his hippie love, peace, and drugs attitude, he carries almost the same amount of PTSD from the war that John does. But unlike John he doesn't carry the anger, and is more open to seeking help. Really loving Millie and the way she's John's rock. Obviously she always had to be as a single mother, but it's very cool that we're getting a solid glimpse into her as a person where in Supernatural it's always been about the fathers. That last scene was heartbreaking. I was afraid Mary's movie date was going to be a bad guy of some kind, so it was a nice twist that he's someone with a real job who could actually be helpful occasionally. I wonder where Ada was this week?

There is zero doubt the CW as it stands is going to look radically different a year from now. It will be mostly reruns and reality programming, with a handful at best of original programs. It's not surprising at all that none of the freshmen series are going to get anything more than their original episode order. There are still series that won't even start until midseason, like Superman and Lois which takes over The Winchesters' spot. I think TW has as good a shot as any series to get a 13-episode renewal, but it's going to be tough given how few original programs will stay on the CW - or whatever it's going to be called. Honestly, I never wanted TW on the CW in the first place, but clearly Pedowitz really wanted it, and Jensen had a good relationship with him and the CW before this. The other problem is that HBO Max is going through it's own upheaval when it merged with Discovery+, so that landscape is changing right now too. Before the merge that would have been the streaming platform TW would have gone to if it didn't go to the CW. We'll have to wait and see, but no, nothing is guaranteed.

Don't get me wrong, I really like Meg's version of Mary, especially after Dabb's trainwreck version. She's got more toughness than Amy G's version, but a lot more softness than Dabb's and even Sam Smith's OG character. But this dialog was interesting in that it's the very first time I could maybe - loathe as I am to do it - see some of what could have motivated Dabb's trainwreck, why she was more interested in hunting than being a mother or even just a decent person. As I said, it's softer coming from Meg Donnelly and this writing team, but the realization that Mary may never be able to give up hunting tracks with her trainwreck resurrection. I thought the Bori Baba was very reminiscent of Supernatural season one urban legends scares - something the show lost when the Lucifer mythology started to ramp up. I liked this MotW a lot. And it's easy to see already where John would fall apart after Mary's eventual death - he's already way more into her than she is in him, and they still barely know each other. Obviously John is a passionately impulsive guy anyway, like when he proposed to Betty before he ran off to war. Ada is a little more interesting every week, and a little scarier too. I can easily see where she might go darkside in the future. So the redhead at the end is the Akrida vessel, I assume, and not Rowena as I thought last week. Pity, I was looking forward to seeing Ruth again - though it's still not out of the realm of possibility. All in all, I'm very much enjoying the show every week.

I agree, the music was outstanding in this episode. And I don't think it was even possible not to catch the foreshadowing when they put Mary in that white dress. Ack! Also, I dunno, was that a possible Rowena sighting at the end?!? Whoever it was, seriously cool final scene. I'm loving the whole family vibe of the team. I really enjoy the entire cast, and the fact that RT has already got me rooting for this John and Mary in a way I never did with the OG series. The mothership lost a lot when Thompson left the series. Very strong second episode.

Thinking exactly the same. This show lost so much when RT left. What a hugely superior difference it would have made if RT had been the showrunner to bring the series to conclusion.

This, bottom line. I'm seeing the same sentiment pop up everywhere, how awesome it is to actually speculate about Supernatural again, and have fun doing it, much like fans did in the first five seasons of the show. Dread was the default for oh too many seasons after that, especially those last few seasons. And the finale made way too many fans feel like they wasted 15 years of their life on this show. So whatever happens, and however they wrap up this season, it's already a refreshing change of pace to wonder and talk about the ways they could go with this story.

And you're in good company with Jensen himself, because he's said the same multiple times at conventions - that Gack or whoever could easily resurrect the Winchesters to face a threat on Earth, and that he didn't consider Dean's death to be the end of it. Dean is who he is, on Earth and in Heaven - in fact, the Heaven we saw in Dabb's trainwreck of a finale was so boring that Dean wouldn't be able to handle it for more than a Heavenly day anyway. So this would be quintessential Dean Winchester, dead or not. Heaven is alerted to the threat coming via the past, and Dean Winchester would be the first to sign up to help.

I watched the episode again yesterday, and my current daily armchair quarterbacking has me thinking the Akreeda are a new threat that entered existence via this previous timeline. In other words, they didn't exist originally at this point or any point when Dean was alive, but because they are not of this world, they came through at an older point in time and and have to be stopped there. And this may be why Dean is brought off the bench, as it were, to help stop the Akreeda by working to put things back on the path. Like if it wasn't an angel who appeared to John with the key, then maybe it was Dean himself, helped by Heaven via angels, like Cas. As for why Sam isn't there with Dean and who Dean is writing to, my further guess is that all this happens while Sam is still alive on Earth, not deceased yet, which gives Dean even more motivation to do what he can to put things back on track. So post Dean death, but prior to Sam death.

They said the new threat was a threat to "all of existence" - that obviously includes Heaven, though at this time no one knows anything about angels etc. And that could be why Dean is involved in some respect, either in Heaven or perhaps sent back to Earth temporarily. I'm now waffling on whether he's narrating from Heaven or Earth. But I'm still thinking it's post death because it's the only thing that makes sense.

I thought there was an interview or something a little while back that claimed Dean was in Heaven and writing down this story for Sam. That may have been part of the leaked script. I can't remember anymore, but it makes the most sense, especially with the car having the original Kansas license plate and the amulet from the rearview mirror. Maybe when they tweaked the pilot script they decided to hold off stating definitively where Dean is and why he's writing this story, and we'll get that information at the end of the season. It definitely feels like OG Supernatural, which is something that was missing from the series the last several seasons. I actually like the entire ensemble, and I think Carlos is going to become a quick fav of mine. My working theory right now is that an angel is the one who gave John the key to the bunker - someone who was there and just disappeared. And I hope that angel is Cas. Again, that would make the most sense. But whoever it was has gone back in the past and changed history already, and I think that is how they're going to get away with telling this new story. At least that's what I'm thinking after this episode. Yes, pilots have to introduce a lot of information fast, and I think the subsequent episodes will flow a lot better. But already I'm feeling like Meg's Mary is more like Amy G's Mary, and nothing like Dabb's trainwreck who seemed nothing like the Mary from In the Beginning and Song Remains the Same. So already I'm feeling some of the old fondness I had at one time, very long ago, for Mary Campbell Winchester, and that's already an improvement. And John is adorable! I'm very much in. Two thumbs up!

Mitch was a genre fan fav, just like Welling is. He was good in the role in In the Beginning, because that was a good script. When Gamble brought him back in season six, she completely trashed the character, turned him into a creepy villain. So unfortunately MP is now associated with that character fail. Time for someone else to take on the role.

I love this announcement! The casting for this show is so far spot on. I'm excited, looking forward to next week.

Yeah, you're right, could have been from the leaked script. But that part of the script could still be legit as far as circumstances, because remember the bunker set is no more. And Miracle was probably a Canadian dog. So instead of trying to recreate a bastardized version of Dean's room in the bunker and getting another dog, changing up the setting to Dean standing on a road by the Impala was an easy adjustment. Obviously we'll know soon enough. I love that they're going to try and keep classic rock on the series. Makes even more sense given the flashback timeline of the series too.

Mind you I can no longer recall when and where I read/heard this, but I thought Jensen said somewhere that Dean is looking into all this/writing in his journal between the time after the whole Chuckles thing and before Dean - SOB - dies. I guess more spoilers will come out before the premiere, but if Dean was looking into this in Heaven, wouldn't he just show up on his parents' heavenly doorstep and talk to them about their past? Anyway, I like the looks of the trailer, I think all the actors are engaging and perfect for the roles, and that's half the battle. I'm on board.

Reported to have inked a one-season deal. So it sounds like a one-season arc. I'm glad he's doing stuff like this, it's exactly what I thought he should be doing even before SPN ended. Get more exposure on bigger networks and streaming platforms, commit to nothing long-term, keep options open. What with producing The Winchesters and working with Berlanti on an unnamed DC project, the boy is keeping busy. I know Jensen keeps up with The Boys cast, and they all behave as if he's one of them. Soldier Boy could be a one-season arc, or could come back for an episode or two in S4. Someone told me that Big Sky shoots in Vancouver, but I also heard New Mexico. Which is it? If it's Vancouver, well there's still a chance that he can fly between Vancouver and Toronto to so some filming for The Boys S4. Or his character gets killed off spectacularly at the end of S3. LOL!