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Just like Curtis thinks he should be most important even though Felicity and Diggle have been there from the beginning, so to does Echo talk like he has been in the show since the beginning. You weren't even in the same seasons as Roy Echo.

That and also a stunt director who's gotten tired, repetitive and is so busy being thrown other titles that he's stopped coming up with new freash ideas.

http://www.redcarpet-fashionawards.com/2018/01/22/sydelle-noel-leanne-marshall-2018-sag-awards/#comments Its not a dress I'd wear but I think she looks terrific. Its nice to see an Arrowverse actresses who can actually dress for a red carpet (since most the Arrowverse actresses are more misses then hits).

@SleepDeprived you and this thread have become famous on twitter now haha.

Yeah he missed one meeting because he was kidnapped but he also blew off or pushed back on other attempts to get his daughter back initiated by Lance prior to that meeting which was why Lance jumped to Rene is being a douche and missing meetings rather then 'ZOMG Something must have happened to Rene'. So Rick and Rene can miss me with the sympathetic father act.

You broke it down perfectly. Carlos dude probably doesn't even watch Arrow but has formed his opinion about the couple from others very limited opinions of the couple- plus he linked to a comic book.com article so says it all really.

Surely Felicity/Billy and Thea/DJ whose name I can't remember deserve to be on this list?

I think they are trying to have a purposeful divide and that they want people to pick sides to get attached to the story while also trying to give both good and bad motivations and reasons for both sides; but the problem is that they've stacked the deck in favour of Oliver and OTA that any merits or motivations NTA may have is weak sauce in comparison. They come off as pissy petty and immauture because what they are angry about is so small and inconsequential while OTA greviances are larger and more impactful on their lives and yet they have had the more mature response. If I was a fan of the NTA characters I'd be pretty pissed about the writing but since I'm not a fan of the characters and indifferent to the actors who portray them I don't care if the audience turns on them.

Whatever Carlos. They just love to keep pushing their universally hated and toxic narrative. Confirmation bias, if I say it enough times maybe people will believe it's true.

Just finished watching the episode the newbies are as every bit horrible and irredeemable as the hype made them out to be and the best part of the episode is that every time the newbies gave their hissy fit about trust that Oliver didn't grovel or appear distraught and would just be like "Whatever. Cool. Have fun trying to take out all those villains. Hope you don't die and have a great summer." It reminds me of when Hyde teaches Jackie how to say whatever when Laurie tried to get under her skin in That 70's show. For reference:

He such pissy little whiny baby so his character works well for him. I mean I decided to write the guy off when he went on full attack mode then got almost the entire cast to go into attack mode because someone rather imo respectfully pointed out that his quote about the sexual harassment suit against Kreisberg came off like apologist of Kreisberg and he went full on Jerk defensive. He came into the show acting like his character was worth the same amount of popularity and fame as Oliver/Stephen gets out divine right that it must suck that people kind of border on indifference or outright hate of his character. Sucks to be Rick ?‍♀️

I haven't watched yet because I'm currently in an airport coming home from vacation, but one thing that pissed me off about 6x09 and judging from descriptions reviews of this episode it seems to me like the whole "trust" argument has less to do about Rene Dinah and Curtis feeling they aren't trusted and more to do with petty jealousy that they aren't as trusted as Diggle and Felicity or feel they should be more trusted then Diggle and Felicity. I don't know about the last episode but it seems like they carry more hostility towards Diggle and Felicity and their place in Olivers life more then they have to Oliver himself.

Let's not forget that there's basically two con videos where Stephen basically insinuates that he's not the biggest fan of KC. One where talking about how great Olicitys chemistry is he spoke about how he's worked with actresses he doesn't like before and if you ever see actors who have poor chemistry it means the actors don't get along. And then another video of him and David talking about an actor they both worked with who never gave them anything in scenes to work off of and how happy they were when Emily joined the show because she's a giving actress. Of course they never referred to KC by name but it's not hard to connect the dots especially given David did flat out mock KC acting blank face. And Stephen almost never looked like he put any effort into scenes with KC. My read is they can enjoy KC company on a social level but she's not someone they particularly enjoy working with on a professional level.

All I could think when reading that was once again an eff off Craig. Like don't act like you speak for the entire Arrow viewership. But the first thing that made me roll my eyes was Stephanie saying how nice it was to see Felicity being so supportive of her "friends son". It's okay to say husband- it won't kill you. I'm glad Craig's site seems to be losing momentum couldn't happen to a nicer person. But excellent responses @BkWurm1 ?

Considering the fact that on the guys feed he said that when the Oliver and Felicity romance started in season 3 the show had its "lowest ratings ever" when in fact season 3 had an increase in ratings over season 2 I wouldn't trust frat bros reading or listening comprehension skills.

This article here also references a source saying that when reshoots where announced that they all- including Mark- agreed to come back to work for free suggesting that it was a mutual agreeement between the cast, but then Mark went and negotiated a deal for himself. Yes Mark is a greedy ass for that who should be called out but it's obvious the studio were comfortable to carry on the narrative that everyone is selflessly donating their time for a passion and letting Michelle believe that capitalising on her own good faith. http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/movies/shocking-claim-about-michelle-williams-pay-for-movie-reshoot/news-story/71db5c0dfdcc682db24e8fab94825a24 ETA: Also considering her best friend someone she'd refer to as her soulmate and I believe the god mother of her daughter Busy Phillips has been tweeting quite a bit about how shameful this story is I'm inclined to believe that this was probably surprising if not unpleasant news for Michelle.

In this article here it says she was never told what Mark would be making (I thought it was written in the original article as well but on skimming through it again I couldn't find it) and considering Ridley was going around saying "we are all working for free" it's not that hard to assume they- either her agents the studio or both- knowingly kept her in the dark while she agreed to nothing based on good will that they were all donating their time while they were negotiating millions with her supporting actor and not once Mark pushed them for a payout not deciding to then say okay since we are paying him anyway let's at least offer Michelle something. That to me is a gender disparity. That once they had to pay out money they weren't transparent about that with their female star or even come to the conclusion that they should give her some kind of bonus at least so they- and Walhbergs team- don't look like greedy scum. And her agency whose job is suppose to be looking after the interest of their clients don't look complicit. As result this film will now probably become more notable for the film that paid Michelle 1500x less then Wahlberg then it will for the story or the performances.

She was told/lied to that they were all working for free, regardless of whether she agreed to it they could have made the same offer to her that they were willing to negotiate with Mark: And to me it speaks to something way deeper when it comes to Hollywood and sex based pay disparity that a talented woman is so willing to work for free because it's one of very few strong roles offered to women while a fairly mediocre white male actor can say that if he doesn't get paid millions he'll walk away because he knows there will be multiple roles available for him. In no way is this okay whether she agreed to it or not imo.

It was mentioned at the golden globes that women are typically getting 23% less then their male costars and doesn't this just highlight that very fact? It's absolutely sexist. Michelle Williams had the same agency who have obviously played on the fact that she has respect for the work to pay her basically nothing for the good of the work, while the happily negotiating a $1.5 million dollar payday with their male star. They obviously had the money willing to spend but the fact that they didn't bother to even offer Michelle more then $1000 is a effing joke.

Just saw this on twitter: I think this is more offensive because it's Mark Wahlberg against someone as brilliant as Michelle Williams. As someone who right before Christmas found out from a male colleague who's in the exact same position that I am that he's making $15,000 more then I am for the same job I'm hoping Mark and the studio get feathered and tarred for this. I need the confidence boost when I ask my boss for a raise haha.

These are nurses, they aren't startlets who some could argue are looking for attention or a pay day. They are women and men who do a pretty thankless job and as I have family members who are aged care nurses I've learnt you don't do that job unless you are in it to help people. None of us know Stan Lee and his private behaviour to say whether it is categorically true or categorically false but I think the women should have a safe space to at least come forward without being called liars and then since it's been implied there is a court case it's up to judge to examine the validity (even though the court system has an increadibly poor track record of siding with the accusers aka Bill Cosby). It's possible his behavior is a side effect of his deteriorating mental health but that doesn't negate the nurses rights to a safe working environment. The whole movement is about allowing women to speak about abuses or sexual harrassment in a welcoming environment rather then the decades and decades of women who tried to speak out who were then further harassed vilified and ultimately shamed into silence or lost their employment while the accused carried on relatively unharmed. For it to really work there has to be the same respect given to the nameless faces in professions beyond just Hollywood actresses.

Considering the CW is notoriously cheap I wouldn't be so certain.

Such a boring promo my only thoughts were that Reddit will probably use it to make shipper music videos for super Arrow intercut with scenes from when they were nazis. ?‍♀️ I too too would have preferred seeing something more Black Lightning focused.

That probably explains why I read that Jensen and Ackles are on like $175 000 an Ep while Stephen and Grant are on $35 000 an Ep.

Well remember Stephen also hadn't really had to suit up or do many fight scenes prior to the crossover due to the whole Diggle GA where as I'm assuming Melissa had as heavier filming schedule as normal, so I could see a little bump in their production schedule. But yeah they are making it sound like a bigger thing.