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The thing I find the most unrealistic is that professionals would put up with V. Isn't the best way to be an assassin to make everything look like accidents and only kill your targets? Also felt bad the bros will have to find a place to live and support themselves. I don't think they will be able to use the money for a concert.

mxc90 said I was just going to comment on that. It brought an added layer of surreality to the proceedings.

If anything, once they figure out that they've been manipulated this is the kind of thing that would make Eve and Villanelle team up again. My guess...after Eve accuses Villanelle and Villanelle fingers Dasha , Eve will kill Dasha, the 12 will put a hit on Eve and then Villanelle and Eve will go after the 12

Who thinks her dad isn't dead? I'm beginning to get a little uncomfortable with Villanelle killing people who in our real lives would just engender a screaming match and slamming of doors but I still enjoy the show. I wonder how realistic the Russian fair was. I can envision something that was that tacky and both funny and sad at the same time. But I don't know if that is because that is what American fiction says rural Russia is like. Anybody have first hand knowledge? I thought they announced a special reg Killing Eve at 10 but they are re-running Silence of the Lambs. Anybody know anything about that.

This is my first post on PRIMETIMER. Almost had a heart attack when I thought Previously TV had just disappeared like Television Without Pity got shut down. That one still hurts. I still love this show but I think we are supposed to believe Villanelle has decided to kill, and serve as a gyro, two random young women for funsies. and that bothers me. While I don't approve of her actions I can at least understand them when she kills for money, kills to protect her identity, kills to escape, or even, although most morally bankrupt, when she kills to cause pain to an enemy, but the only reason I can come up with for killing those randos was that they seemed to like each other and she was jealous that other women have normal friendships and she is stuck with somebody who stabbed her and a junkie who she is only pretending to be friends with. I mean we have to see if she does kill them and if so what she does with them but I fear they may leave it ambiguous. Is everybody convinced that Carolyn doesn't know that Villanelle killed the female body guard? I think she knows because she is smart and she interrupted Eve when she was going to tell her about it. I think she was deliberately not letting Eve tell her what happened so she could maintain plausible deniability. I have a hard time thinking somebody who has been in the gave as long as she is going to believe a body guard just HAPPENS to get killed when there is a professional assassin on the spot.

I could see the subtext Cummings was putting in the performance and wondered if in real life James was supposed to be not quite hetero or if Cummings was playing around, but if that was the score, then Cummings nailed it. Thanks for the info. Enjoyed the episode and liked the alien possession of the dead etc. Not quite as creepy as "are you my mumy?" but then what is.

Did they discontinue the podcasts? Because this is the last one I could find.

Haven't seen the show Timetraxx mentioned. A cop from 2193 travels back to track 200 criminals that escaped into the past because of an evil genius who also escaped into the past (this was on about 20 years before Continuum) . It wasn't a great show but it was OK to kill time and it kind of gave me the giggles. In 2193 the protagonist is white and people say he only got into the police academy because of affirmative action because he is a minority. Also in 2193 if you want to insult someone you call him a "blanco" i.e. white. I wonder what the writers of the show are thinking now that the fear some whites have that they are going to be out reproduced, is openly being tauted as an excuse for discriminating against minorities and marching around with lit torches chanting Nazi slogans. BTW Dr Who had it's own version of would you go back and kill Hitler. Actually they had several One was Doctor #4 had to choose between killing the first batch of Daleks and maybe preventing a whole lot of their genocidal acts but on the other hand he pointed out that many different planets bonded in solidarity to try to fight off the Daleks. He decided not to blow them up although a smaller explosion set the Daleks back a bit. 2. River Song actually DID go back and try to kill Hitler but things got complicated. 3. Doctor 12 met Davros (who having created the Daleks can be argued was WORSE than Hitler since they killed PLANETS full of people not a percentage of just one planet's population.) when he was a child and could have let him die as a child, thus preventing a LOT of deaths but couldn't bring himself to do it. They had others I can't think of right now.

I am only now in 2018 seeing this show. I was particularly impressed with the detail of Chair's revenge. I THOUGHT that Blanche had really gotten a letter from the Triangle Shirt Co and that ironically Chair's interference with Blanche's interview would save her life so that SOME good would come out of this. But no, so that the address of the interview would be at the asylum it had to be Chair who wrote the letter in the first place. Brilliant on both Chair and the writer's part. At this point I have very mixed feelings about Chair. I was kind of on her side at the beginning because trying to get some money out of these monsters by having a baby isn't the worst thing a person could do especially since the poor had very little recourse. That conversation in the pilot about poor women being either servants or whores wasn't totally wrong. There was also factory work like Blanche wanted but even if you didn't die in a fire because your overlords locked your only escape there were a lot of other ways to die in a factory. So I was kind of in Chair's corner at the start but now she sold a woman into White Slavery (even though she's a horrible person nobody deserves that) and she put a woman into an asylum who isn't crazy. Too far.

Kamila might be alive but we know the parents are dead because we saw the reading of the will where they left some stuff to Tahini because they were such self absorbed snobs that they misspelled their own daughter's name. I too look forward to what next. I can tell you who dunnit in an Agatha Christie movie in the first 5 min but this show is really good at doing the unexpected.

I missed something. Jefferson seemed surprised that his daughter was in the 100 club when he was talking to his ex but if he didn't know she was there, why did he go there? I enjoyed it and am impressed that so far they are doing such a good job of mixing comic book over the topness with gritty realism. Pirana aquariums with police profiling for instance. I think the actors are doing well. In a show like this you have to sell the seriousness or it falls into camp which is not where they want to go. I wanted to strangle the younger sister because rebellion is one thing but going to a club where they may sell you into white slavery is just rediculous. OTOH I wish I could say real life teens are never that dumb and I can't, so I'm letting that go. I really like that the older sister got arrested for protesting against the 100 and that the police look at doing that as worse than BEING in the 100. Unfortunately reminds me that before I went to peacefully protest in the Women's March last year some people were encouraging the police to beat us up for cluttering the side walk. Fortunately the Washington DC cops were polite as they could be, and there was no violence. I kind of feel bad for the nice cops that have to watch their job portrayed as a bunch of bigots abusing their power but OTOH portraying stuff that does happen, like being pulled over for no good reason, can be beneficial, shining a light on an injustice. BTW in case anybody thinks stuff like that doesn't happen I was once going to the wedding of my roommate in Long Island, dressed for a wedding, had a wedding gift in my lap, my dad was driving and we got pulled over for no reason. Not speeding, no broken tail light, NO reason. White cop asked us where we were going and why we were going there and didn't explain himself , then let us go. In case you hadn't guessed we are not Caucasian. That scene really brought it back. I could feel Jeffersons's feelings... anger because it isn't fair, fear that you or a loved one can get hurt if something goes wrong, and embarrassment. The actor showed it all on his face. I'm definitely continuing to watch.

For many years I have noticed that in fiction (TV/ movies) the "evil psychiatrist" has been a very frequent character. I can literally name way over a hundred instances where a psychiatrist in the story is trying to seduce their patient or trying to brain wash somebody into being an assassin. (In fact in an episode of Lois and Clark there was one psychiatrist trying to seduce Lois and another trying to brain wash people into being assassins in the same episode). OTOH I can only name about 4 or 5 instances where the psychiatrist was the good guy, like in Good Will Hunting and Ordinary People. I always asked myself why and came up with some pretty esoteric theories but this show made me wonder if Scientology might not have something to do with it. I mean a museum dedicated to demonizing psychiatry? Is it possible that a lot of screen writers are or were Scientologists?

Do people think Michael was telling the truth about HOW good somebody has to be toget to the Good Place and also do you think he was telling the truth when he said Florence Nightingale and all the philosophers didn't make it? Michael has lied so much I don't know what to believe. Tahani helped people but for the wrong reasons, Chidi basically talked a lot but didn't actually do anything (except for driving people crazy) but had good intentions. Both extremes seem to have been enough to get them to the bad place. I think Janet is going to be very interesting to watch since over 800 reboots must have made a lot of changes. The first reboot made her able to fight for her love of Jason. I only wish we could have seen some of her reboot results because the first time with the cactus was hysterical.

If she said birth control (which I think she did) instead of specifically the pill , then she may have meant there were condoms there. I think what they call the pantry is more of a storage area for valuable stuff so I don't see why they couldn't have put condoms there especially if they put contraceptive pills there. Also makes more sense than the pill since you can use a condom without planning to need it weeks into the future and these people can't be sure there is a future. Have mixed feelings about what Madison did regarding lying about who killed that family. On the one hand I understand doing something to keep the "safe" haven together, since she and her kids are living there now and self preservation is a powerful motivator. OTOH I am appalled by the blaming of a minority for your own ends. Reminds me of white women in the not too distant pass who lied about black men doing something sexual (in one case that he just whistled at her) to get a black man lynched. The fact is that Madison's lie will keep the group together but at the cost of Natives getting killed (and some of their own but I guess she feels fewer of them than would die if they wonder off by themselves.) Funny since she is probably more liberal politically than the Survivalists. I choose to think she'd do the exact same things if the opposing group were white so she is an amoral manipulator, but not a racist. (BTW I never saw the first few eps....Travis was Maori but what ethnicity was her kids' father. Did they ever say? Nick doesn't look fully Caucasian to me.) It strikes me that the show seems to be lurching toward biblical themes. Jake and Troy seem to be heading toward Caine and Able territory. Additionally the two brothers wanting to take over for the father reminds me about the story of Jacob and Esau with Jake being Jacob. Esau/Troy the hunter is violent and not smart. Jacob is the brainy one. In that case the mother schemes to put the brainy son in charge through trickery, when the brawny one was going to inherit. In this case the maternal figure is pushing the dumb one but Alison is pushing the brainy one. The thing was that the smart one in the bible was the one best equipped to lead the Jews in that time and place. The show may be setting up the question -in the apocalypse which type of leader is the right one to lead THIS group. It may be that the brainy one gets himself killed and the thug survives. However I'm with whoever said upthread that given what we've seen so far of this show it is more likely neither of these guys makes it. Anybody thinks the headaches of Jeremiah are cinema short hand for brain tumor is going to kill him any minute so Esau and Jacob can fight over the estate sooner?

If Charming and Snow had rescued Emma when she was still a child wouldn't it have been unlikely for her to meet Neal and have his baby? And wouldn't Snow and Charming therefore know they negated the existence of their grandson Henry? I would think that would figure in their decision.

I had my suspicions that this was the "bad place" from the beginning especially since I immediately remembered the Twilight Zone ep with the gangster who thinks he's in heaven which people have mentioned, but I was never sure. Every time the show did something fishy that made me suspect more it could be discounted as either (1) the writer/s didn't know certain facts or (2) it is a comedy so exaggeration and things that couldn't be true are the norm. As an example the people we now know were actors... The stories they told at the first party of why they got into the "good" place were ridiculous so that Eleanor would feel inferior and miserable. The Indian guy said he had donated BOTH kidneys to a perfect stranger. So I was thinking (1) either the writers don't know NOBODY donates both kidneys, no doctor would do it, and the recipient only needs ONE kidney so it is a pointless way to die or (2) the writers did know, that but because it was a comedy had a character actually do it. So while I still thought it being hell MIGHT be a possibility I was never sure about it until the latest ep. BTW something that also made me wonder but may still be just a limitation of story telling and not deliberate is this. What happens if you find your soulmate on earth and then one person dies first. Don't you wait for your soulmate in heaven? I found it suspicious that everybody got paired up after death. We saw nobody either waiting for their soulmate or already reunited with them. Also what were the chances that Chidi and real Eleanor or Tahanni and the monk would die at about the same time if they really were soulmates? But like I said it could be a story telling plot hole rather than a clue this set up was not legit. I'll be tuning in next season. In the mean time I chose to believe that Florence Nightingale DID get into the Good Place and Michael was only lying. I'm hoping that our main characters' antics leads to an afterlife restructuring. Especially since Michael mentioned an "up there" or something like that that seemed to indicate there IS a Good Place but I'm not sure that we can be sure that there is one. It is possible that there is ONLY hell.

You know what would be really cool? If somebody who maybe lost somebody to the COS infiltrated it with the sole purpose of setting themselves up as the reincarnation of LRH and squashing DM from within. Something like the plot to the series "Revenge."

What drove me crazy was when KAC kept on about how the "lie" about Melania was still out there so it was OK to continue suing after the guy retracted yet Rachel didn't point out that the LIE that Donald KEEPS saying about that reporter crying etc is STILL out there...why is THAT not a bad thing. Why shouldn't that reporter sue Trump. Why didn't Rachel say that? Why? It bares repeating that KAC is Evil. I'm reminded of he line from Mean Girls "And Satan has taken human form as Regina George" only it is true of KAC. I swear I have no doubt that if she knew Trump raped a child she'd lie and lie and spin it and somehow blame Hilary Clinton. My God I have never seen such a concentration of lack of conscience as the Trump administration. BTW Notice KAC said Trump's lawyers are working to make Trump's actions "legal" but NOT that anybody cares about whether anything is ethical. BTW Doctors even if they have NOTHING to do with politics are not allowed to ethically invest in medical things that they may have any influence over. Like if you are an oncologist (cancer doc) you can't invest in stock in pills for cancer because you might influence prices by prescribing one cancer drug preferentially over another. Yet THAT guy who frickin VOTES in Congress on medical things he's invested in and directly affects the prices THAT guy can get away with that? We are so screwed.

I've missed a couple of episodes so maybe I'm way off but isn't it possible that Dr Scott isn't dead? Did they show incontavertilble proof when I wasn't looking because (a) Powerful people wanted her dead and if you could pull off faking they succeeded, it would mean others wouldn't be still trying. (b) How much easier would it be to fake somebody's death post apocalypse? I mean people pull it off now and we live with a maximum amount of tech and cameras you'd have to fool. Post apocalypse I would have to think just changing your name to Jane Smith would mean you could lay low. Who the heck is checking ID anymore. (c) Nobody has seen Tex have they? Did they explain where he went? Couldn't he be guarding Scott? He's somebody who could be trusted with her safety. I don't know but I still hold out hope.

I know no spoilers so this is just judging from what I saw on the screen today....Is it possible Franka Potente's character isn't dead? The reason I think she may not be "dead" is because the Android hesitated TWICE during the fight before shooting her and there seemed to be a moment where they locked eyes just before Android shot her. I sat there thinking maybe Android was having a problem with the term "kill." What If Franka is another Android(or something immortal) ? Maybe technically you can't "kill" her so she couldn't "Kill them All" so Android was glitching trying to obey orders. It's an out there theory I admit but weirder things have happened in Sci Fi. I wouldn't mind if Franka stuck around. I like her acting. I smiled because "Kill them All" was something associated with Xena Warrior Princess and twice Lucy Lawless said it in two other tv shows, possibly 3. Too bad she couldn't have had a part in this ep.

Tried multiple time to quote someone but couldn't. Agree that there is no way Bobo/Willa isn't icky even if he didn't actually "touch" her when she was 13. NO WAY. The thing about the room...This is how I see that scenario. We know from flashbacks that Willa at least once was trying to be a normal girl who had some test at school the next day and wanted to go to sleep but crazy dad dragged her out in the wee hours to practice shooting because she was going to be the heir. Now first of all I THINK the dude was drunk. We also know the dude beat his wife so he's a horrible person. I think that the guy didn't let the "chosen" daughter have a normal childhood. I think he controlled her (in order to mold her) more than a normal dad and that therefore it stunted her growth (emotionally.) So maybe he didn't let her collect posters and buy music and play on whatever tech toy was in when she was 13. Instead he drilled her day and night on being the heir and she had only her dolls for comfort. If so this is even more tragic because she goes from being brainwashed to be a killing machine/Earp heir to being kidnapped by Revenants one of whom apparently was brainwashing her to be his bride, to being re-kidnapped by a witch who gave her to an out and out cult leader. By my way of reckoning the poor young woman had been brainwashed 3 times before the age of 30. That is why I still feel bad for her. What chance did she have? She seemed pretty much suicidal in her last speech if you take it apart. Sure she was ranting about the town deserving to be destroyed but even before the snake thing attacked I didn't get the impression she really thought she'd be OK. Her original plan to go off with Bobo was already dust and her back up plan seemed pretty shaky. I think she kind of knew she wasn't long for this world. I also thought she gave a little nod of acceptance when it was obvious that Wynona was going to shoot her so she wouldn't have to suffer death by Cythulu-stand-in. I hope we find out how things shake out by getting another season but if Bobo was Waverly's daddy I wish they hadn't killed him. There would be more angst if the (probable) Revenant that fathered Waverly were alive to cause it. Hmmm Maybe it is the (probably) NOT Revenant (possibly Angel) guy that knocked out Doc and showed him the old badge.

Hey given recent statements from the Pope I expect The Machine to send a text apologizing to every LGBT person on earth. Hee I was slow to join the party and watched sporadically until Amy Acker's Root joined the show. She brought just the right kind of crazy. I'm going to miss the show but am relieved the end wasn't the total blood bath I feared it would be. Because of the overall quality of the show I am forgiving them for killing off half the lesbian couple despite the fact that it seems like EVERY show kills off half of its lesbian couple, (unless its name is Glee) and it is enfuriating. I bought the first 3 seasons on dvd and will get the rest when I get there while doing a re-watch. There are several eps that will be new to me so there is that comfort. Unlike the people behind some of the other shows I've watched I don't know who we give credit to for this show. I've seen reference to their next project on this site but not the name of it. Who are they and what is the new show called?

That was intense. I don't really appreciate a 200 year old guy "falling in love" with a 13 yo girl. I'm glad Waverly brought it up but didn't feel it was appropriately dealt with and Wynnona gave him mercy. Despite everything I felt bad for Willa. I think she was brainwashed while she was still a child. Waverly isn't an Earp? Which demon do you think was her daddy? I guess it isn't one we've met yet because I think all the named demons have been dealt with. I hope we get a second season to find out. Liked the moment when Wynona thought Nicole was a revenant because she hadn't bled.

Still don't get the point of the gang in the store. I can understand hoarding for your own survival but not to make a profit in side a plague cordon. How will you ever get away with it? Don't get why the cop agreed to be stranded inside the cordon. I have trouble making sense of people's motivations on this show. I hope it makes sense in the end. Do people think they'd be having baseball games that close to a plague zone? Would people go? I think there is going to be a lot of people avoiding the Zica virus in the Brazilian Olympics and that is bigger than a baseball game.

I liked a lot of this. I never disliked Juliette and always felt he got a raw deal especially when Adalind got to play house with Nick, so I'm not sorry she may be back to human. I will however miss her abilities. I too liked Wu's smirk when Eve was able to make the two cops draw on each other. Speaking of the cops one the one hand if Renard just won the election how did Black Claw get to completely take over a station? Having individual cops in place is one thing but a whole station? How do you make sure only Wessen black claw people get through police academy and all get put in the same station and that no humans get hired there? OTOH there was something chilling when they march Nick through the station and all the different species he's fought come out. Mixed feelings about Diana. Usually the aged up super being (see Angel, V, the 300 etc) can be lame but so far Diana's blend of good intentions and sociopathy is working for me. Killing dad's side piece to ensure mommy and daddy stay together is deffinately something I'd see a kid with super powers doing and the moment she asked who was hurting her mommy I knew Bonaparte was toast. Too bad I suspect she'll be getting bad advice and work against the good guys soon I laughed at the beginning when we see Monroe and Rosalee's horrified reaction to the election. I kept picturing the same dialogue being spoken if Trump wins. Edited to add. I guess it is just my upbringing but I kind of assumed that Crusader knights would be hiding a shard of the "True Cross" too. Of course it is possible that since this show is ending that it either has nothing to do with that or it will scandalize a few people by having Jesus have been Wessen. We know Hitler the embodiment of evil be Wessen, maybe they will suggest Wessen can be ultimate good too.