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Yeah, I didn't remember hearing that before either.
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I'll echo what everyone else is saying, that this was a great episode, possibly the best so far. Even Ormewood was okay this time. Maybe they're giving him a redemption arc? The French braids issue was real, and I liked how he tricked the protester/vandal guy into confessing by pretending to be on his side. Simple yet effective. Everyone working together on the same case still didn't quite make sense to me (why would GBI and APD be working together? Because it was a judge?) but I handwaved it because it was still better than Angie and Ormewood being off on their own case, and it did give us the car scene. When Will met Uncle Antonio's friends, and one of them immediately called will a "dirty cop" -- what was that all about? Was he just a cop hater? I would've liked Uncle Antonio to have defended Will a bit, or at least give his friend some shit about jumping on his nephew like that, but Will just dealt with him head-on. Yes, I shot a guy just last week. Three times. Followed all the procedures, but he's still dead. Maybe the friend (I forget his name) didn't expect an actual response, because he seemed to back off a little bit, but Will had to go be a "dirty cop" so we didn't get a real resolution there. Luke seems to only be around to be Faith's love interest, and a reason for Amanda to whine about something. But that's a relatively minor thing I guess in an otherwise really good episode. I liked the family theme showing up over and over in various forms.
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Only Murders in the Building Media
Orbert replied to Meredith Quill's topic in Only Murders In The Building
I gotta be honest; I'm not sure if this is good news or not. For me, part of the charm and attraction of the first few seasons was that the so many Arconia residents, and in a way the building itself, were integral to the stories. The occasional well-known guest star was fun, but not really required. Season Three bumped that up a notch or two with Paul Rudd and Meryl Streep both in prominent roles, and the story also shifted away from the building for a lot of the season, and the most of the residents were mostly absent. Now they're adding even more characters to the cast? I did enjoy Season Three. I suppose the only "requirement" is that the murder take place in the building; perhaps they feel that it's time now to give the show a broader scope, a bigger feel. Also, of the seven new cast members named in the recent posts, I don't know most of them. I like Richard Kind, though he's not exactly an A-lister. The rest I'm not familiar with, but it still makes me wonder why we need them when we already have a half dozen or more established characters other than our dynamic trio. -
Well, I didn't hate this one, though I didn't love it. The biggest thing I liked was that Ormewood and Angie were actually working on the same case as Will and Faith. It's unrealistic that they'll come up with ways for all of them to work together every week, but the way this played out with the GBI director insisting that it be investigated by APD made sense. I don't know how realistic it was for that to happen, but I could buy it. But there was still so much wrong, all of which has been mentioned already. The murder weapon was this huge thing that Amanda somehow supposedly snuck out of there and hid in her laundry at home. The SWAT team converging on her when she's obviously not some crazy woman with a gun threatening kids. The way those random APD unis seemed so happy that Amanda was under fire (why?) A lot of things were just plain weird. I continue to not care about Ormewood's home life. Ormewood has been an ass to Will since day one, and continues to be an ass, so I don't really care that his family is falling apart. Yes, it's sad. But it's a character I actively dislike and it's all just TV anyway, so I don't care. The characters I like, I care about. That's normal, right? Why make the most unlikeable character on the show be the one with all the personal problems, and why should we care? I can understand Will and Faith not being thrilled to find out that Amanda planted evidence 30 years ago when she was just starting out, but I thought their reactions were over the top. It was 30 years ago when she was just starting out, it was a shitty situation and she was getting no support, so she took a scumbag off the streets the only way she could. As far as we know, she has been consistently by the book ever since, yet Will and Faith both acted like she's a raging hypocrite. The characters and actors all deserve better writing. This show has so much potential, but still somehow feels like they don't know how to make it work.
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Okay, I guess I'm rethinking the reality show murder B-story. It did add some lightness, which was nice because the Boo Hag story was pretty dark and serious. It's just that any time any of the "ex-wives" was on screen, I just wanted to hit the FF button (which I really try not to do). Also, I'd forgotten about the "pudding" convo, which was fun, and the point about Ormewood being single now as character development and maybe we're done with his home life for a while is a good one. Between two cases each week, the ongoing arc with Will's uncle, and seeing his younger self, and the glimpses into everyone's private lives, I still think they're juggling more characters and stories than really necessary, but I do have to give them high marks for their juggling ability.
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I liked the Boo Hag case. Of course the "witch" was never going to turn out to be guilty, but the twist was kinda cool. Amanda being stalked will hopefully turn out interesting. Angie and Ormewood are still on their own show, doing their own things, and Ormewood's wife finally left him, which we all saw coming so I'm not sure why that was supposed to be shocking or whatever. The whole "reality TV" B-story was tedious. I find people like that to be obnoxious, and don't get how watching a bunch of obnoxious, self-centered, backstabbing people is supposed to be entertaining. I avoid them in real life; I sure as hell don't want to see them while I try to escape real life. They're not funny, they're not interesting... why am I watching them?
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I hadn't thought about that aspect of it, but it makes sense and seems like a potentially interesting thing to explore. Carol carried on for nearly 40 years after Pete died, but Pete (with an obvious visual reminder or two) is in some ways exactly as he was the day he died, including mentally and emotionally. She has a lot more life experience than he does, which would color the conversation they hopefully eventually have about her affair. I mean, to her it's ancient history; her first husband who died way back before her much longer second marriage. To Pete, it's still fresh and still hurts.
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I must have missed that. If it's been six months, then it's not unreasonable for Angie to be back on the job.
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Wow, good news! Even though the season is just starting for us because of the strikes, there are probably some decisions that have to be made by certain dates, and renewing some shows that are obviously pretty popular is a pretty safe bet.
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You're right. I'm just willing to let it go because they had to say something or people wouldn't back off, and I understand the rationale for them saying what they did.
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That could be an important distinction, and possibly the loophole allowing basement cholera boy to be the one. Which still contradicts whoever said that it was one of the main ghosts (or something like that), but if it was someone on the actual production or writing team, I'd be willing to allow that as a bit of misdirection. Obviously they meant for it to be a cliffhanger and/or hadn't figured it out yet anyway, but in either case I could understand them trying to deflect speculation by saying that. I'd personally get tired of people asking "Who was it?" all the time, when the whole point is that we don't find out until... whenever they choose to reveal it. If they don't saying anything, people won't stop asking. If they say that it's not a main cast member, then the amount of care drops dramatically. So they say it's a main cast member and that keeps people interested over the break. And it doesn't bother me how much or little truth there is in that answer, because I wouldn't ask or want to know in the first place. I don't even read episode synopses before broadcast because I prefer to stay as spoiler-free as possible.
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A thorough check with associates would have yielded red flags from every one of them, but shows like this always walk the line between realism and asking viewers to suspend disbelief. I think it's crazy that Angie is back on duty so soon when we all know she's not ready, but there was that line to Will about how she'd start using again if she doesn't keep busy, so I guess what we get (for now?) They have to get back to the show's formula, and that means Angie and Ormewood with their B-stories. Has there been any definitive timeline regarding her return? Maybe more time has passed than we realize? Or maybe they're setting up some kind of catastrophic thing that happens later when it turns out that she wasn't ready after all.
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People keep mentioning Stephanie's boyfriend as the one who was sucked off. Are we talking about her prom date? I didn't think he was also there in the mansion. I thought she got together with one of the Cholera ghosts from the basement, but after the suck-off, Nancy said everyone in the basement was accounted for. We haven't seen him, but we don't see every ghost in every episode.
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Ah yes, I forgot about Franklin. He seems like a good guy. I could handle more of him and less of Ormewood.
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Good point about Ormewood being the only other male in the main cast. I may still be biased against him from those first couple episodes where basically everyone was being a jerk to Will. He's done some good stuff since then, but they've also sprinkled in some not-good stuff as well, so I guess that puts him somewhere in the middle. But mostly he just kinda rubs me the wrong way.
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Angie's speedy recovery meant that she and Ormewood were back together pursuing B-stories. I'd actually forgotten about that, and when they were investigating the sauna murder, I was wondering how it would tie into the pregnant woman and councilman babydaddy. (Spoiler: It didn't.) I agree that we could do with less of them and more of Faith and Amanda. We barely saw Faith (uppercase "F") this episode. I just don't see why they feel like there has to be an A story for Will and Faith and a B story for Angie and Ormewood. I know, that's the basic template for these ensemble crime shows, but if they really want Will Trent (the show) to be different, break away from that mold. Come up with a compelling MOTW and fill things out with the interpersonal stuff. I'm sure it can be done. I think stories around Will, Faith, Amanda, and yes, Angie, should be plenty. Between them, and Will's home life with Betty and Nico, there's already nearly too much going on; we don't also need the adventures of Angie and Ormewood that tie up too neatly and quickly because they really don't want to spend a lot of time on them, but feel like they have to. Just drop the B stories completely. And ditto regarding Ormewood's home life. I don't really care about Ormewood, so I care even less about his marital troubles. Edit: Oh yeah, Dr. Pete was great. Why should you be allowed to eat cake in "his" morgue if you didn't bring him any?
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Original Leverage did that sometimes. I like the idea that the team is always busy doing things, and we don't always see every job.
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Like most shows, this one requires a suspension of disbelief. It's about a woman who can see and communicate with ghosts after a bizarre accident, so we're not exactly going for realism here. But a large part of enjoying the show is that it has established "rules" for how things work and the characters must exist and solve problems while working within these rules. Introducing a new rule or an exception to an existing one can work as long as it doesn't contradict established lore too badly. In other words, we can accept it, and accept the updated canon. If/when Flower comes back, I just hope it makes sense based on what we know. "Somehow, Palpatine Flower returned" would be pretty disappointing.
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S31.E09: Cher, Julia Roberts, Tom Hanks, Timothée Chalamet
Orbert replied to Corgi-ears's topic in The Graham Norton Show
Seeing Cher just made me sad. Her face is so plastic that most of it doesn't move when she talks and it's stuck in a permanent sad look. Tom and Julia were both great, but I like both of them and they can usually do no wrong in my eyes. I only know Timothée from Dune (part 1) but he seems pretty cool. I just can't believe they're rebooting Willy Wonka again, but that's not his fault and I've heard he's very good in it. -
That's who she reminds me of! When she first showed up and was tormenting poor Syril, I was trying to think of who she reminds me of. Rhoda's mother. I wouldn't be surprised if Mrs. Morgenstern was an actual model for Syril's mom. They are indeed very, very similar.
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S31.E07: Diddy, Ashley Jensen, George MacKay, Chris Ramsey
Orbert replied to dubbel zout's topic in The Graham Norton Show
We finally found it on YouTube, searching Graham Norton Complete Episodes. It was broken into 4 or 5 parts (each with ads you cannot skip). But it seemed to be the whole show, perhaps even unedited for U.S. airing. -
S01.E08: Part Eight - The Jedi, The Witch, and The Warlord
Orbert replied to formerlyfreedom's topic in Ahsoka
It was definitely a play on The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe. It seemed a bit odd to name an episode of a Star Wars series after that, but it did fit perfectly, which is why I chuckled. -
S01.E08: Part Eight - The Jedi, The Witch, and The Warlord
Orbert replied to formerlyfreedom's topic in Ahsoka
Just chiming in to say that as someone who didn't watch any of the animated content, I found this whole series a bit boring. Lots of references to things that many viewers knew but most didn't, Ahsoka being serene and stoic (and boring) most of the time, lots of characters with agendas we don't understand and honestly were never really explained. It was okay, and from what I understand, it's a worthy follow-up to Rebels and The Clone Wars, but that was all lost on me. And as many predicted, nothing was really wrapped up, either. The title of this episode got a chuckle out of me, though. Well, the kind of chuckle that's also a half-groan. -
No panic here; I was just musing a bit on the fact that we got cliff-hangers for every prior season, but this one really didn't feel like one. S1 ended with Guillermo discovering he has Van Helsing blood. S2 ended with him actually slaying a theater full of vampires and declaring "I am Guillermo de la Cruz!" S3 ended with the weird Baby Colin Robinson creature being "born" and S4 ended with Guillermo asking Derek to turn him. Each of those made me think "Whoa! Where will this go?" But then it was pointed out that this one really felt more like a wrap-up of sorts, a not-bad place to end the series if it turned out that way. There were even a handful of cameos (the Djinn, the Necromancer, Topher) and appearances by The Baron and The Sire. So I find it interesting that the writers knew there was a S6 coming, and this time chose instead to not go the cliffhanger route. I suppose there's Derek who's now a zombie rather than a somewhat lame vampire.