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  1. CeeBeeGee

    S08.E01: Winterfell

    I have wondered if Dany isn't meant to suggest Cleopatra who was quite intelligent (she spoke numerous languages and was the first Ptolemaic pharoah to speak Egyptian) and yet was the product of multiple generations of incest. Arya is either forgetting her (wonderful) interactions with Tywin Lannister (GOD, I loved their conversations) or she is paying Sansa a hell of a compliment. Sansa is smart--she was able to adjust to the realities and limitations of her hostage status very quickly after Ned's murder execution. Remember her manipulating Joffrey into wanting to be at the vanguard right before the Battle of Blackwater Bay? I think Arya and Gendry are cute as hell together. ("As you wish, milady..."--my heart squirmed and I am not a "shipper.") And yes, that definitely felt like flirting to me.
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    Leaving Neverland

    Oh my God, Ms. How horrifying. So glad you survived. Yes, I too have been a victim of sexual assault. Once when I was a child (as far as I remember, it only happened once but that one time is indelible) and again as an adult (I should say this was an attempt, I was able to fight him off). The second time I misremembered the assailant's appearance--I swore he was wearing a durag but the police showed me the security footage and he had a cap instead. Again, people often get details wrong when undergoing trauma. Doesn't mean it didn't happen. This is a cynical attempt to cast doubt on these survivors. And why? As someone above said, this is a POP STAR. Look, I loved him too. I LOVED Off the Wall, even more than Thriller. He was a part of my adolescence. But it's impossible to doubt when this many accusers have come forward, all with the same haunted look. (For the record, I believed he was guilty with the first accuser. Partly because of my past, partly because he settled. Who settles when you're accused of child molestation?)
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    Leaving Neverland

    Newsflash: Victims of longterm sexual abuse that happened 25+ during their childhood years ago sometimes misremember details. SHOCKING.
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    Leaving Neverland

    That's...really not at all what I said, or meant. I didn't address the "social or sexual revolution" at all.* And specifically what I said about MJ (the topic) was this: IOW, I certainly don't think, nor did I say, that Michael's actions were caused by what was around him, but rather that he could take advantage of the laissez-faire attitude toward sex with children by explaining it away. In his case he made constant protestation of "it's all love, it's all beautiful." Roman Polanski kept dismissing concerns about his rape of the thirteen year old by saying disdainfully how prudish we Americans were. Same dismissal, same attempts at normalization. And there were hordes of people who agreed with them, who did not see anything wrong with MJ's actions towards the boys in his household. This is partly why I actually have more sympathy with the mothers. I really think they were gaslighted by all the people in MJ's orbit, by his star power, by all those people who handwaved away their concerns, said he was just a big child, it was innocent, it was all innocent. It doesn't excuse why they ultimately didn't listen to their own instincts--I keep thinking about James's mom noticing how the suites kept getting farther and farther away, and Wade's mom finally (only not really) putting her foot down and defying MJ, they must absolutely hated themselves, remembering that, why didn't I listen to myself and follow through?--but I don't think they're monsters. NOBODY was pointing out the weirdness. NOBODY. MJ was enabled not just by his entourage but by the entire entertainment industry, including the media. Jordyn must've had incredible courage to be the first one to say it out loud. *As a quick aside, the obsession with underage girls in the '70s--specifically men normalizing the sexualization of underage girls--IMO had much less to do with the sexual revolution (which was healthy and normal) and more to do with a reaction to the women's movement. Women wants rights and power, men feel threatened so they start turning to younger and younger girls. (You can see this nowadays--who's the guy who always has much younger girlfriends? The one who wants to be in control, and feels he can't hack it with women his own age.) Sure, there's some overlap which is why I don't exactly know how to feel about the young groupies who had sex with Bowie et al. and do not feel they were victims. But I think the vast majority of this thing was a reaction to women's liberation. Anyway, this is off-topic so I won't say more.
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    Leaving Neverland

    I have watched the documentary several times now. I was literally shaking afterward--literally shaking. I haven't believed MJ since the '93 allegations and frankly I didn't give a shit when he died. To me, after '93 he was someone who had gotten away with child molestation. But I had no--NO--idea it was that bad, that...appalling. I guess I thought it was touching, inappropriate boundary-crossing, not...that. The part where Wade described--the graphic part about his being seven, and how big MJ was--this quite literally made me vomit. I was walking to the train and that flashed into my head and I started gagging and ended up vomiting onto the sidewalk. That poor baby--Wade was just a baby. He was seven. James was ten. I am so, so angry on their behalf. I want to dig up Michael Jackson's filthy pedophile corpse and burn the bones and spit on the ashes. This bothers me nearly as much as the sexual abuse--the casual abandonment. How terribly hurt both of them must have felt, wondering if they'd said or done the wrong thing, crying on the couch as James talked about. It's breathtakingly cruel. Like everyone else said, I just want to wrap my arms around them and shower them with unconditional support and friendship. Maybe some ice cream sundaes and teddy bears. Wade and James--you did not deserve this. You are good people. You were good sons, you are good fathers. You did not deserve this. I think most Americans pay lip service to being against sex abuse but as soon as it's one of their heroes, the knives come out. Roman Polanski, Bill Cosby, MJ, James Barbour... Oh my God, I HATED that woman. I well remember her and her tittering, smirky obvious attempt to play to the audience. I fucking HATED her. You know she was hoping to parlay the whole experience into a book or something. Overnight? MJ still has his fans but the general public has been giving him the side-eye for a long time. Anyone who's been putting in time and money to impersonate MJ is a fool. He was! Go see him in The Wiz, he was a beautiful man before all the surgeries. Beautiful nose and smile. Before he turned into a living portrait of Dorian Gray. This is good to hear. I've been going back and forth about this with a friend of mine, and I texted him: Another thing worth mentioning is that when Thriller came out and before (whenever the grooming and abuse started), we were just coming out of the '70s. And let me tell you, that era was one in which the grownups of the US collectively lost their minds. Children--girls, really--were sexualized to a truly insane degree. Read about Brooke Shields's childhood and early career. Nearly all of her earliest roles were ones where she, a child, was playing a prostitute or simulating sex or even just running around naked, as she did in the screwball comedy Just You and Me, Kid. It's amazing she turned out as normal as she did. Of course there's some famous Roman Polanski case, and he had and has many defenders. Oh, and for another example, have some nightmare fuel: Love's also had a creepy print ad where a little girl was made up to look like a full-blown woman, again with the tagline about how innocence was soooooo sexy. GROSS. Anyway, I wonder if on some level MJ wasn't trying to take advantage of that lack of boundaries.
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    Figure Skating

    I was talking about this yesterday with a parent (I am a soccer coach). I adore FS but I can get why the girls go for hockey, and honestly I applaud them. When I grew up no girls played ice hockey. I was part of the first generation of girls to play soccer. I would love for girls to go for both and I desperately want the US to regain its dominance in FS but it's great that we're showing strength in this area as well.
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    I Am the Night

    Yes, both the tone of Peter's voice and the fact that he was drinking tipped me off. Didn't George's son Steve write a book claiming his dad killed the Black Dahlia? And I believe he was a cop.
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    I Am the Night

    WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK That last scene was HORRIFYING. Oh my Lord, the actor playing Hodel is creeping me the fuck out. And I had a feeling that he was her father. But then I teethed on the Flowers in the Attic series.
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    I Am the Night

    As confused as I am, I am very much enjoying this. But Ivanovich is not a first name. In Russian nomenclature, it is a middle name, the patronymic--Russian middle names always take the father's first name and add as a suffix -ovich or -ovna, meaning son of or daughter of.
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    Figure Skating

    Fully co-sign. It's one reason I can't get into ice dancing. I haaaaaate the manufactured drama. I never liked V&M for that reason. I don't care about your angst. I love a good performance but the "face clutching," as you say, is just obnoxious. I want athleticism, precision, difficulty, choreography.
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    Crime After Crime: Future Season Wishlist

    I posted this way back in the thread--in the past week I have been revisiting this case and it would be a natural choice. It was a big, big story back when it first broke in '89. The seemingly perfect couple mugged and shot in their car in the Mission Hill (considered dangerous for white people) neighborhood just after they left their Lamaze class. Wife dies that night, infant is delivered by C-section prematurely, dies days later. Husband gives a detailed description of a black assailant--Mission Hill is absolutely upended as the cops go crazy trying to find the murderer. The cops eventually identify a likely suspect, a career criminal who seemed to fit the profile and whose nephew claimed had bragged about the shootings. On its own the story would've been big, but Rescue 911 was riding with one of the ambulances that night and got footage of their extrication from the car. And then the husband's younger brother is racked with guilt and comes forward as the grand jury is about to indict the suspect. The night of the shootings he'd had a pre-arranged agreement with his brother to meet in the mIssion Hill neighborhood at a certain time, brother would give him a bag, and he was to get rid of it. Younger brother ends up throwing the bag in the river--but not before seeing what was inside. Among other things, a gun and personal jewelry of the wife, including her very expensive engagement ring, all of which was reported stolen by the "mugger." Younger brother had the intelligence to keep the ring, which serves as proof for his story. The day after younger brother goes to the DA, husband jumps into the Mystic River. So the husband did it, for the insurance money mainly. The PTB were fooled for a time because husband's injuries were so bad (he accidentally shot himself much worse than he intended to) but apparently the hospital staff had fingered him because his affect was so creepy and "off," afterward. They made a very good TV movie of it but a multi-episode series could really explore the story. Domestic abuse, systemic racism, class issues (husband was obsessed with the couple's rising yuppie status)--there's a lot to unpack here.
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    I Am the Night

    Pretty sure it was Big Mama's phone--at one point Fauna or somebody noticed a double click on the phone, meaning it was being tapped.
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    Lifetime Original Movies

    I'm actually really enjoying it as well, although I hate how they portray John Favara (the guy who ran over Frankie). From all accounts the death was a tragic accident--he wasn't at fault in any way. And he never would've been awful to the mother (calling her a crazy bitch, etc.) as they show him doing--he knew EXACTLY how much danger he was in--everyone in the neighborhood knew who Gotti was--and was making plans to move. Gotti didn't even want to kill him but the mother apparently wanted it. So now Favara's kids grow up without a father--does that bring Frankie back to life? The whole story is incredibly sad. Victoria comes off better than I would've guessed.
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    Figure Skating

    What irritates me about the "Surya wuz robbed" is this--in what universe are three Worlds SILVERS and MULTIPLE European golds anything but a slam dunk in figure skating? That's more than many better skaters than she have achieved. These articles always seem to be written by people who don't understand how figure skating works. Jumps are great, but other elements (spins, spirals, step sequences, decent choreography, etc.) also count.
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    Lindsay Lohan's Beach Club

    I am utterly mortified for Jonitta. Jesus Christ. You full-on HIT someone in the FACE because...they gently touched you? After you specifically invited them to? ("Go on, touch me again.") No, wait--it was because she...kissed someone on both cheeks? Which, as she pointed out, is customary in Greece? Fucking seriously? Her posturing and defensiveness to Panos was fucking RIDICULOUS. Fire her ass, Panos. No, both sides are not to blame. Jonitta fully and solely owns this. (And my God, if I have to hear the word "thirsty" again, much less 10 or 20 times, I'm going to vomit on Jonitta's bed. She came off very badly in this episode.) Yeah, I'm no Gabi fan but the Cool Kids powwow afterward was shitty. Stop tittering over the drama with Jonitta. She acted badly. Someone should've gone out to Gabi. Holy shit, I was dying at that. WHY ARE YOU CALLING YOURSELF A PITBULL. Pitbulls have an excuse. You do not. And who the HELL is Brent to criticize another for being defensive and refusing to apologize? Both he and Jonitta should've been fired by now. Disgusted and disappointed with Jonitta.
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    I Am the Night

    It's fictional--sort of? Fauna Hodel is a real person who apparently really was the real George Hodel's granddaughter. I'm kind of nervous about reading too much about the real people so I don't spoil myself.
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    Figure Skating

    This! I am generally not a fan of ice dancing because of all the "frantic grabbing" and "theatrical facial expressions" (this is why I don't really care for V&M--sacrilege, I know!). I could not believe that H/D's FS won over C/B's clever, sophisticated, subtle program with all those awesome lifts! Very disappointed. Hopefully C/B will take a medal at Worlds.
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    Figure Skating

    Jason Brown's short program was spectacular! So good!
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    Figure Skating

    Can somebody explain to me why they thought Alina's short at Euros was so bad? I watched it on YouTube and it looked pretty clean to me. What am I missing?
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    Lindsay Lohan's Beach Club

    Shouldn't it be whom? Either The Body (which was the basis for the movie Stand by Me) or It.
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    Gymnastics

    No! She is so young! Jesus, losing your dad at 23...
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    Lindsay Lohan's Beach Club

    Okay, watching the "Meet the Staff" segment--Brent is a shitty, straight up misogynist. He brags about being called "The Waitress Slayer" because (according to him) he "sleeps with all the waitresses." And even more vile, he says he does this to prove that "women have no loyalty to each other," that "they are worse than guys." Dude, I hope you get an STD and your dick falls off. I'm done with this show.
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    Lindsay Lohan's Beach Club

    I found Brent so utterly repellant that I switched off in the middle of his screechfest "you're done! You're done! Mic drop!" Producers, we want to see more Lindsay and Greek scenery, less of the manufactured twenty-something drama.
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    The Romanoffs

    Finally finished this series. I agree that the last episode is the best one. Ondine was utterly horrible, just awful. I especially despise how she manipulated him not to say anything, because as shitty a father as the dad was, surely he would've turfed Ondine had he known she likely set the fire, if for no other reason than because that could implicate him. As up and down as this show is (I find the pacing to be unbearably slow), I'm enjoying trying to figure out which Romanoff scenario is paralleled in the episodes. For example, Episode 2, "The Royal We," I think refers to the terrible marriage between Catherine the Great and her awful husband, Peter, who reportedly wanted to replace her with his mistress. Catherine famously took to her new home and culture (cf., Shelley being caught up in the Romanoff cruise--is Ivan supposed to be a modern-day Count Orlov?) and ended up having Peter "removed." "End of the Line" surely is meant to evoke the despair Nicholas and Alexandra felt at never getting that heir, and their joy when Alexei was born, and their subsequent horror when he turned out to have hemophilia. But I found "Panarama" deadly dull. And as others have noticed, the idea that her hemophilia is from the Romanovs is ludicrous. Only one branch had the disease--Nicky and Alexandra--because it came through her line and she married into the family, and their line for obvious reasons was terminated. Perhaps if Elizabeth (Alexandra's sister--therefore possibly a carrier--who also married into the family) and Sergei had had children who had survived the Revolution, it might've been plausible but that didn't happen. Which brings me to another point--there aren't that many Romanovs out there. The Bolsheviks killed almost a third of them, and those who survived are all accounted for and most have titles of pretense. It's odd that there are seemingly so many running around who are brought up believing they have a connection to the family and have Imperial* china and/or jewelry. If you've got the toys, you should know exactly how you're related. *Which brings me to another point--the series keeps saying royal, royal family, royal this and that. The Romanovs ruled over an empire, not a kingdom; therefore, the family was imperial, not royal. That's been driving me crazy.
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    S02.E07: Ascent

    Not at all. The Cunanans were poor and striving to rise above that, which is what motivated his father to get an MBA and become a stockbroker. It might've worked had the parents spent sensibly but Modesto blew his money like a sailor on shore leave (appropriately, since he was former Navy). They had to scrimp quite a bit to send Andrew to Bishop. And then when Modesto fled the country after selling the house out from underneath the family, they were destitute. He really was a shithead. Once Modesto took off, Andrew had to drop out of college. (Not that he was that motivated anyway--Norman offered to bankroll his degree but Andrew just wanted cash and a Mercedes.)
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