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  1. Kate47

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    So, IMO, Sansa was never going to learn flattery in the same way as Margery. She tried, with Joffrey, but her resentments and trauma always bubbled to the surface. She's gotten decent at maneuvering, but she's never been good at hiding behind flattery and diplomacy. It's just not her style. And when she has Winterfell back, she doesn't need to bother with that nonsense BS anyway. This is why I both had issues with and completely understood her reaction to Dany. Of course Sansa doesn't trust a beautiful woman who has won over everyone and is trying to relate to her with shared love and hope. Sansa doesn't have to fake it anymore, and she wasn't that good at it anyway. One of my huge peeves with this season is that Dany and Sansa have so much in common and, had Dany come at her with a respect of power and met her on that level, I think Sansa could have been one of the few to understand and comfort her when Missandei was executed. Because they only showed us the one conversation where Dany made a misstep by trying to use courtly bonding on Sansa, we were robbed of a more intimate and empathetic interaction. I'm not saying that Sansa wasn't in the wrong, but that it's def a tragedy that these two women couldn't get along. They made sparks against each other, but I wanted fire.
  2. Kate47

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    So my confusion for some of this episode was the setting. Jon goes to see Dany, KL is covered in snow. Tyrion is pulled out of jail, KL is bright and sunny and hot again. I couldn't get over it. Then my partner pointed out that King's Landing is actually covered in ash, not snow. There was enough floating ash to cover Drogon for that once scene. That shit is *gnarly*.
  3. Kate47

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    It's basically come back around full circle, where the council makes decisions for a King who isn't interested at all in sitting in on the meetings or helping to rule. Used to be Bobby B, now it's Bran the B. It really did feel like fanfiction.
  4. Kate47

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Jon and Tormund are out there starting their relationship and their free range organic dairy farm. I can't hate.
  5. Kate47

    S08.E06: The Iron Throne

    Re: Bran
  6. He's stabbed by the Night's Watch at the end of Book 5, which was covered in the show. That's the last we've heard of him.
  7. Kate47

    Game Of Thrones In The Media

    I didn't know where else to put this (and my apologies if it's been posted already) but Florence did a live version of Jenny of Oldstones that is just *gorgeous*
  8. Also! I'm gonna throw myself into the Dany insanity debate because why not. So for me, Dany's question of madness requires you to ask if grief is a form of madness. If it is: A. Is it then temporary madness, due to intensity of grief, and can it be empathized and understood and worked through? B. Is it the sort of madness that is *not* temporary, cannot be worked through and can then lead to full fledged insanity? Grief is a bitch. It's awful and monstrous and can make people burn down their lives or make unforgivable decisions without considering consequences. It isolates people, it never really goes away. It's not fun, and it's also not insanity (though it can def open the doors to insanity). Grief is def def a form of madness because it causes people to make decisions and do things that in the moment are entirely logical and sound to them, and then make no sense at all when they are able to clearly reason. In my opinion, this act is Dany on grief. It can be seen as Dany experiencing madness, but I can't say that it's going to be permanent insanity. A lot of it depends on the empathy of the people around her and since Jon is a wet blanket and Tyrion is useless, outlook is not so good.
  9. I personally think that Dany and Grey Worm agreed between them to give no quarter and wipe the whole place clean. I think, when Tyrion begged her to stop the attack if the bells rang, she agreed. However, I believe that her condition for agreeing was an unattainable goal; something like "sure, I'll stop if they all immediately kneel." This way, when it's over, she can say "well, I gave then a chance, it's their fault" and it still jives with the direction she wants to take anyway. I think her pause was this multifaceted internal debate between what she had already agreed to with Grey Worm and Tyrion, what she wanted to do, and anger at how stupid simple this would have been. She was always going to be unnecessarily ruthless, IMO. Her grief was too strong to do otherwise.
  10. Kate47

    S08.E05: The Bells

    This is definitely accurate, and a way the show suffered where the books did well. We always got that "if I look back I am lost" perspective when Dany had to make hard choices, that allowed us to understand her a bit even when she was displaying that cold unemotional resolve. We didn't agree with a lot of her choices, but we could see the humanity inside them. The show (necessarily) can't show us Dany's inner dialogue, although there are ways to do it, and so the same cold and unemotional decisions come across without that seed of humanity in them.
  11. Kate47

    S08.E05: The Bells

    The thing is, a queen who has her advisors publicly double checking her decisions looks weak. It looks like she doesn't know what she's doing and needed to have smarter people course correcting her during a trade negotiation. It worked for the purposes of her ruse, but (like so many people said when Sansa publicly questioned Jon's decisions) Jorah or Ser Barristan need to bring up doubts in private counsel. To me, that's not a sign of Dany's mental health. My apologies if I misinterpreted your comment tho.
  12. Kate47

    S08.E05: The Bells

    There was a really quick scene that I loved, where Jon is looking around at all this devastation and sees a Lannister guardsman guiding civilians to a safer path. They really gave no doubt as to who the villain was, and they did a solid job of showing the bloodthirsty vengeance that the supposed heroes display. Thr fact that the lines were so blurred really added to the shock around the sacking of the city.
  13. Kate47

    S08.E05: The Bells

    Drogon and Dany also came out of the sun, to blind the fleet and present a surprise.
  14. Kate47

    S08.E05: The Bells

    I really really wish we had had a longer season, or a more intricate plot, because I would have loved for this to be a midseason episode, with the back half of the season focusing on how Dany rules. As it is, we have one episode left to decide if she really is insane or will be a cruel tyrant, or if her scorched earth policy can be understood as a battle tactic. I really wanted Jon to have a few episodes to witness how she is as Queen, struggle with it a bit, and then decide that she has to be taken out. I'm all for murky motiviations, but I feel like these last two episodes are going to feel like unearned insanity/cold brutality when they could have really looked at what drove Dany over the edge and how she rules now that she has her ashes.
  15. Kate47

    S08.E05: The Bells

    Watching the Inside the Game episode, it makes sense why King's Landing looked so different. They had to destroy it, which they couldn't do in Dubrovnik, so they built KL on a backlot. They also constructed it with the destroyed parts first so that they wouldn't have to build two. It's a really amazing feat. I definitely think, even though the writing has been terrible, the production, directing, and acting for this episode was top notch.
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