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Which did not answer the question at all....
4 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:Gwen Sigan didn't actually answer the Q. UGH.
Q: Is there a reason why Benjamin Levy Aguilar (who plays Dante Torres) is absent from so many episodes this season of Chicago P.D.? He’s one of the more interesting characters in recent years.
Which did not answer the question at all.
On 3/24/2024 at 7:55 AM, Snazzy Daisy said:BTS 👀
Ughhhh.... another reason to not watch the rest of this boring season.
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I really enjoyed that one. No overwrought personal angst & an interesting case.
Poor Noah with the eyes, yikes who does that to a person. That person deserves to be hunted down by Voight.
Loved how Burgess & Ruzek literally ran out of the bullpen when Hanks told them to go home.
Upton only mildly irritating but I think that comes down to the monotonous way she delivers her lines... oh & she looked like she'd been dragged through a hedge backwards with that hair. (only 7 epsiodes to go... I can do it, I can do it.)
I do like the dynamic between Voight & Chapman. They seem to play off each other really well.
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I enjoyed the case for what it was. It was also a nice change that it wasn't the usual black v blue story that Eid dished up regularly. I also love that Gwen is allowing a little more of their personal stories to be shown. That's been a huge improvement.
This case also rang very true to Atwater's character. He did everything he could, he's not responsible for other peoples panicked choices but his personality didn't allow him to see that & he carried that burden & that effected his judgement when him and Ruzek were chasing the crims later in the episode.
Funny how my first thought in that scene was ... if Eid was in charge he would've had Ruzek get shot just to dial the trauma up on Atwater only to ignore it a week later. ... so thankfully everyone survived unscathed.
However the myopic focus she has delivered this season isn't working. I know Eid bought in the centric but they were a little less myopic. You can still have centric foucsed episodes without them being so narrow. It turns people off watching. I'm certainly not going to sit through myopic episodes of felony barbie. I'd rather poke knitting needles in my eyes. (maybe the fact she wasn't in this episode made it infinitely better as well).
Anyway, While I feel like they are on the right path with the personal developments.... the glaring issue remains the Myopic focused epsiodes.
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10 hours ago, Snazzy Daisy said:
Oops, Burzek did it again. Third time the charm, huh. Will they make it to the altar? Or to the court house ala Upstead? TBH, I don’t trust this show especially when Gwen Sigan is running it. 😣
Hearing Adam calling Makayla “bumblebee” makes my heart melt…💙
As expected, Dante Torres is MIA again! It would be interesting to see 2 Spanish-speaking members of Intelligence working together on this particular case. A missed opportunity.
Gwen is doing fine. She's fixing Eid's unholy mess, slowly but surely. It's far from perfect but it's a thousands times better than Eid's rubbish.
Not her fault JLS upped and left with no notice. It's insanity to think that even if he'd stayed that Upstead would've continued being trauma free, drama free happy ever after, not matter what that fandom will have you believe.
Gwen got left with myopic centric episodes, two characters who had every trauma known to man thrown at them, a black cop who was barely sighted unless it was a black v blue storyline, Voight who was pussy whipped by the Crimesteads & a couple who barely looked like they knew each other.
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46 minutes ago, Sweet-n-Snarky said:
There's a lot of weird conversations about whether or not Burzek "earned" the proposal, but I agree that it was very much earned.
https://www.tvfanatic.com/2024/02/chicago-pd-burzeks-journey-to-forever-is-a-testament-to-enduring/
Mainly from the bitter fans who are still in the midst of their 18mth long temper tantrum because JLS upped sticks and left.
They had done everything possible to break Burzek over the last 7 yeaars, there was literally nothing left to do with them other than make them happy. And honestly Paddy & Marina deserve it, as do the fans. It's been a wild freakin' ride.
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It would be a nice surprise is just one cop who 'helps' out IU isn't a POS... but I guess the trope works well enough across all procedurals.
I did love how Voight just accepted that Burgess was running point & let her run with her theory. She's come such a long way since she was the giddy patrol cop.
And after years and years of trauma it's nice not to hold your breath when Burzek open an episode is a good place because it always ended horribly. It's a strange feeling. I do want to know what Adam had planned, cheesy I'm sure.
But hoy boy, hasn't that triggered the mob. I hope Gwen (showrunner) has good security because that fandom is wholly unhinged.
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1 hour ago, Snazzy Daisy said:
SPOILER ALERT!
Updates on the upcoming S11•E03 episode.
Typical crap from that site. Gwen has already said they will be bringing in cops from other departments for them to work with in different episodes. Like the one who worked with Blondie in the first.
I don't know why anyone believes one word of this rubbish. I mean they wrote articles about 'Will we see Bunny on PD again' after the actress who played her died. Total trash.
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So much better than last weeks snooze fest.
Another CI dying wasn't needed but I must say actually hearing Adam admit he's no good without the job, that he knows if he doesn't get back he will fill his time with bad shit & he'll lose Kim & Mack was kinda heartbreaking. At least he knows who he is.
But for the love of god... Adam, stay the fuck out of it. Let the team do their thing, as shady as it always is.
I'm sorry the comedy of the hour was provided by none other than Sanctimonious Barbie... demanding to be looped in... with all the shit she's pulled & knowing that she still hasn't told Burgess about Roy... GTFO woman.
The roof scene with Kim was a bit OTT & clearly CGI which just took me out of the whole thing, but overall a much improved hour.
Domestic Adam folding washing, grocery shopping (including annoying Platt) was cute.
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In a surprise to no-one Upton has a crisis...
So they went to the trouble of hiding Paddy/Adam from all pre-season promotions & interviews to maintain their 'cliffhanger' and then precede to give him a 42 second scene that shows us he's alive, but not working.... six months later with zero context as to why & then he's completely ignored for the rest of the episode.
All so we can watch Upton's 4000th crisis of confidence.
What exactly was the point of having a cliffhanger?
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Ruzek? You know the guy that was shot in the finale?
Nope, we get another whine fest from good 'ole UpWoe.
It's been confirmed that there is a 6mth time jump, so it's been what? A year since hubby deserted their marriage.
Can we move this story to the archives please?
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On 1/10/2024 at 7:52 AM, Snazzy Daisy said:
JLS dating his co-star…shocking!
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‘Chicago P.D.’ stars Jesse Lee Soffer and Tracy Spiridakos are dating
Kinda makes their startling lack of chemistry onscreen even more embarrassing.
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That's a bit of a shame.....😂
It's an early Christmas Present.
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Well this is good news. A short season too! Woot woot. Only downside is we will probably get multiple episodes of her miserable life before she goes.
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3 hours ago, Sake614 said:
I also felt cheated out of a Kim/Adam scene at the end. As well as annoyed that Adam spent what little time he had calling Kim instead of 911. And if there are budget cuts that require letting actors go, May I suggest they start with detective Barbie? She’s completely useless and totally expendable. Killing Adam only adds shock value and takes away an integral part of the team.
Him calling Kim makes more sense to be honest, He couldn't speak. So he calls 911 they have no idea who he is, where he is & they muck around trying to get info from him or he calls Kim, doesn't say a word and she knows exactly where he is and he's in trouble. The ambo was there before she was so there was no delay.
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6 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:
Fill us in?
They filmed a scene back at the hospital with Kim & Adam & some bright spark from NBC released the photos of it straight after the episode aired. They have since been taken down.
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2 hours ago, NJRadioGuy said:
Oh, I forgot to add that just one of those bricks of C4 would probably level half a city block. That much? Ain't nobody on that property is walking, running, or crawling away. They'd still be finding bits of Kevlar and police gear in trees a half-mile away a year from now.
😂 That was my thought.. all that C4 & one tiny building blew up. (And I do know they actually physcially blew up that building, it wasn't CI generated) but that much C4 would've levelled the block.
They really need to stop blowing up the characters & have them just shake it off. Blondie went flying through the air last season & went straight back to work... but that's TV I guess.
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5 hours ago, Sweet-n-Snarky said:
This exactly. It's kind of what I was alluding to above.
It felt like so much of that got lost in translation even with viewers, and that genuinely bothered me. They spent ALL their time trying to protect Callum and soften the idea of him and Sam as raised to hate.
Sam shouldn't have even gotten that unprecedented immunity deal, and it sucks that the only people vocal about that was surprised surprise the only Black cop on the unit followed by Kim, the mom raising a Black child.
It shouldn't ALWAYS fall on Kevin to be that person on the unit.
He had to be the one to kill Beck, not even because no one else had the shot or an opportunity to make any kind of move, but because the others were still trying to negotiate the most peaceful outcome, still reasoning with this man. Still giving him time and space to spout more of his crap. Still giving him a voice. Still trying to cut this kid some kind of slack.
Police rolled up on a boy Callum's age once and shot him on sight for playing with a toy, barely stopped the car to do it. We've seen them never hesitate. But in those moments it was "what about Callum."
What about a little girl whose father didnt come home that night? What about her trauma? What about protecting her?
And then Kevin having to shoot Richard to finally put an end to it now has this little boy they were desperate to save evil eying him. How was the message in that not boiled down to this Black Man just triggered his hatred? Like Callum could've stood a chance but "if not for Kevin..."
Sam RAN Richard's entire drug operation. She didn't choose her out when they first met her. She killed someone to essentially protect her father and herself.
Sam said she was raised to be racist and then stopped when Callum was born, but how? In what way do we know that when she still subjected her son to her father's ideology? Throwing out stuff he took to school in his backpack isn't actively working to unprogram your child or counteract what Richard taught him.
She was involved and knew things about her father terrorizing people of color before. KILLING THEM. she did nothing.
Sam was not this sad victim and yet they spent all this time trying to make her sympathetic. She got the benefit of the doubt. There's no way on earth she should've gotten a full immunity deal and Ruzek still had to beg her to take it.
She knew her father was planning something and didn't care about the repercussions on anyone else.
Yet we spent more time on HER as a victim of white supremacist than the actual people Richard was terrorizing and killing.
It was a good episode. But I couldn't not think of those things, and it bothered me. Worse yet, it bothers me that it has seemingly went over most people's heads because I keep hearing "poor Callum needs therapy" or everyone's upset about Ruzek or them cutting Burzek scenes... that after all that, the problems with them basically humanizing Nazis just gets lost.
My opinion... for what it is worth is that this show is always so heavy handed with the story they are trying to push and this was another example of that in the worst possible way.
What I felt they were going for was Adam's desperation to save not only his child from having people like that in the world & Callum because he couldn't imagine giving up on a child, any child. Makayla got a second chance after all the trauma of her upbringing, he wanted that for Callum as well.... where it all went wrong for the storyline, is as you say that they tried to humanise his mother as an innocent victim which just didn't work on ANY level. They tipped the balance way too far without any pay off. Save the kid & hope it's not too late, I understand that sentiment without agreeing with it, but to make that story work she needed to be seen as the same as her father and they, for whatever reason refused to do that.
With regards to the deal, I got it storytelling wise, time was of the essence & they wanted to press that point, get her to talk & save hundreds of people, which turned out to be children or have her refuse to speak, time wasted & in the end Beck goes through with his plan & children die. I also understand that Adam knew her best so why he made that call. Did she deserve it, nope, not at a chance in hell. Again, it's the heavy handed approach to storytelling & perhaps if they had spent a little more time developing that side, maybe, just maybe it might have made more sense rather than jump straight to the end point due to needing to push it all into one 40 minute episode.
I get the killshot being Atwater but just once I would like these 'bad guys' not get the bullet to the head ending. That's not justice, it's a cop out & they do it all the time to tie everything up in a neat little bow. Not that Beck deserved a life but he deserved to live the rest of his miserable life in a dark windowless cell as does his daughter.
What this show also does well & to excess is emotionally manipulate characters into doing everything against their moral judgement, making impossible choices. Kim made a promise to Adam because she was desperate for him to calm down & live .... the same way Upton manipulated Halstead into saving her from the Roy mess, and Halstead did the old "it's not you it's me' manipulation trope when he bolted.
And yes I am one who is pissed about the cut scene, wouldn't have been so bad if they hadn't posted the photos straight after & felt cruel to a group of fans that have been through a shit load of angst with this couple.. So maybe they could've ended with Sam being read all her charges by Kevin when they pulled the deal...instead we got Voight in a bar with a character barely anyone can name. They fucked up their own ending..
Oh & Paddy & Marina & LaRoyce never fail to deliver.
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6 minutes ago, NJRadioGuy said:
Just, please, don't send him to O.R. 2.0. That won't end well.
I honestly wish I didn't know what that meant... I had the unfortunate experience of half watching Med this week. Yikes....
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28 minutes ago, NJRadioGuy said:
Nobody who gets hit center-mass from 5 yards or less will crawl away (to film another season). They'll be carried by six with an honor guard. But I don't see then killing off Ruzek to be honest. With the One Chicago budget cuts I can see them having him "rehab" for the first half of the season. But the reality is that was pretty much a shot to the heart from where the squib was placed on the actor's chest.
If this show, or any show followed real life there would be a new cast of characters each week, they'd all be dead, in rubber rooms or in jail.
If Kim survived 2 gunshot wounds centre mass, hours dragging herself across a dirty floor, Ruzek can survive this.... afterall they have some magic elixer at Chicago Med. The magic of TV hey?
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Man, they do love their shitty ends to finales.... the Upstead proposal while Kim was 'dying' and now the goblin drinking with the random ASA that nobody cares about while Adam's life is in the balance.
Sheesh
Up until that last scene... that was a bloody good episode.
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3 hours ago, MsJamieDornan said:
Is Ruzak still on the show ?
Yes, he is undercover at the moment so wasn't really in this ep apart from one scene. He will be front & centre next week in the finale.
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Confusing storyline, that didn't go anywhere case wise, still not really sure what went on other than show us that Torres has a past, which we already knew, and that he'll fit right in with Voight & Felony Barbie. They must be giddy that they've got another fallguy after they destroyed Halstead.
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Best thing about this is that Karma finally got that pyschotic fandom.
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5 hours ago, mommalib said:
Watching this episode I realize that not only does Atwater deserve a woman he should be a father as well. I loved his persistence and how he ended up getting through to the kid. I also liked how he kicked that guys ass after the guy beat up ruzek. lol I was suspicious of Atwater's father but I think he might actually be a good dude, time will tell.
I really hope they don't do to Atwater's father what they tend to do to any relative of our merry band of tortured cops.
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S11.E08: On Paper
in Chicago PD
So the hamster wheel of misery just keeps spinning for Upton? How long has this dragged on now?
This show is currently unwatchable.