bluphoenix451

Super late stumbling on to this thread. I loved this show, but it's 100% the reason I'm still afraid of escalators. The one episode that sticks in my head was about this kid who fell at the bottom the escalator started eating his jacking and strangling him. This was before they had those emergency stop buttons and it seemed to take forever to get the escalator to stop and to cut him free.

If I remember from the book that is actually what happened. They did the inquest right then and there at the scene and also random people both observed and trampled all over the crime scene. I think your reaction is exactly what Scorsese is going for because you should be horrified by it.

This is clearer in the book, but they did try to show this in the movie: The Native population had been declared mentally incompetent in mass and were legally required to have a white person (generally a man, because let's add patriarchy to racism) manage their money. They literally did not have direct access to their funds and require permission from their white guardian for any access. So they are between a rock and a hard place and for a lot of them the least terrible path was to be married to their guardian (and thereby hopefully have more influence) vs having random white man in town serve that function. You can read more about it here: https://www.npr.org/2023/03/23/1165619070/osage-headrights-killers-of-the-flower-moon-fletcher-lawsuit

It's on britbox now.

So agree. She portrayed such complex feelings. On one hand this man did horrific things to your family and help them to be systematically murdered, but on the other you are facing moving forward totally alone and ill and grieving. Any path forward is still completely devastating.

The Turner/Jonas divorce is getting uglier. Sophie has filed to have her children brought back to England and alleges that they had agreed to move there and that Joe is now refusing to send them. She also says she found out via the media about the divorce. https://people.com/sophie-turner-sues-joe-jonas-demands-kids-be-returned-to-england-amid-split-7972708

Looks like it's official that Sophie Turner and Joe Jonas are divorcing. I have to say I love that people are noticing the leaking of this news and the "Joe has had to take care of his own children" narrative doesn't pass the smell test. I've seen speculation that he is trying to get ahead of something negative coming out about him by going scorched earth first. She's always been pretty private about the relationship considering they are both celebrities so I'm definitely side eyeing the leaks and negativity being proactively thrown her way. I do wonder if the fact that he got with her when she was 20 and he was 27 is a factor given she is now a lot closer to 30 and coming into her own as an adult. https://www.today.com/popculture/joe-jonas-sophie-turner-divorce-rcna103286

That's a rough read. I really hope she was totally unconscious once the accident happened because being trapped for 45 minutes in a burning car and sustaining injuries so severe your sternum is cracked sound horrific. I'm shocked she was still alive when they extracted her.

I don't either. Glad she's ok, Kelsey has had such a history of violent and/or tragic things happening to his immediate family members.

Yep https://www.vulture.com/2022/10/jerry-lee-lewis-obituary-1935-2022.html "He once shot his bass player in the chest; just about all of his seven wives, including one who was a child, said he beat them; and there’s a lingering suspicion that he murdered wife No. 5. " I recently listened to a podcast that covered him and in particular the death of his 5th wife and I totally believe he killed her and leveraged his hometown connections to get away with it.

Technically they are, and were raised as such, since their parents (Laenor and Laena) were siblings, yeah genetically not so much.

He does literally have severe brain damage. This very much reminds me of my grandfather after he had several strokes, his ability to determine what was appropriate rapidly disappeared and I recall multiple uncomfortable interactions with female health care professionals at the end. If he had still been mobile I think it would have been worse. Since Gary's accident he has had a reputation for being very strange and I wouldn't be surprised if more stories come in now in the era of Me Too where people feel somewhat more comfortable being able to come forward. All that to say it sounds like he may be deteriorating more now, but I doubt this was the first time for this behavior.

The bolded emphasis is mine, but my thinking went here as well. I didn't think Denzel was saying implying Chris was the devil, but that the devil/devilishness was in Will's reaction/behavior which call it the devil or temper or immaturity sounds correct to me. I'm not Christian, but having been raised as one I also didn't take it as excusing the behavior or implying the devil did it and Will had no control. I took it as you were tested by "the devil" or less religiously "the circumstances" and you let your base impulses get the best of you and that is on you.

He said Janine was being tucked in by Aunt Lydia not Hannah.

I think they are both Diana's sisters.