[Unexpected: All Episodes Discussion]

On 5/12/2022 at 10:24 PM, b2H said:

I want to say one thing about Kylen’s birth that no one has brought up yet.

An extended labor like this?  Can also damage the child.  Labor is like a vice on the child, particularly if the head is in the birth canal.   

The pressure is incredible.  More than 24 hours and someone should’ve been looking at a c-section for the well-being of Xavier.

Not to compare Kylen to an animal (like Jason did) but a similar thing happened at my house 3 weeks ago. We have a kitten rescue and someone dumped off a pregnant dog. She'd already been in labor for several hours by the time we got her. By 3am I knew we couldn't wait until the vet opened. I examined her and felt a puppy in the birth canal. I was finally able to remove the placenta (which came first and in pieces) and the puppy. The puppy was gone. It had been trapped in the birth canal for so long that it has gone into distress and died. Almost killed the mom as well. She was so exhausted that she couldn't push. Happily, though, I delivered 2 more healthy ones and they're doing great! My husband was all "I don't know how you can so this" and I said, "You've clearly never had to go fishing for a lost tampon string. I've been training for this since I was 10."

But, yeah. VERY dangerous for her AND Xavier. I'm surprised they didn't try to do a Caesarean while they had him out of the building. Can you imagine? As soon as they removed the baby Jason would've been like, "Okay, Kylen, let's go. You don't need to be stitched up, we've got some of them big Bandaids in the basement."

[90 Day: The Single Life]

I feel like there were some editing shenanigans going on with Kaory and Ed at supper. The whole scene felt disjointed. Was she basically saying that he talks so much it wasn't worth it for her to answer? 

[Steven and Alina: Cold Turkey]

Alina did this of my daughter.

 

 

[S05.E01 Leap Of Faith]

For those asking what the bleeped out word in Alina's song was, it's "pussy." (Which kinda fits within the context.)

"I want to feel a message 

Coming in your body

Logging in, vibrating

Soon through my browser access

He's unrejected

Ay yi yi, ay yi yi

My pussy's got WiFi"

 

[S08.E09: Ready When You Are]

On 11/25/2021 at 1:12 AM, CerealKiller813 said:

I'm sorry, are you SURPRISED Queen Maci is a hypocrite? Where have you been?🧐 Hi, this is Teen Mom lol🤣🤣🤣🤣 Maci will ALWAYS be a hypocrite

Not surprised when I wrote that comment 2 years ago, just snarking. 

[S03.E13: Don't Overthink It]

40 minutes ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Right? What part of "fiancee visa" do they not understand? 

Thanks to the increasing popularity and misrepresentation of the show I've noticed an uptick in weird shit people say to me when I tell them I married my spouse on the visa. I'll get "How can you be sure he didn't just marry you to get to America", and no matter how I answer people think I'm in denial. What I generally wind up saying is, "Look, we married 14 years ago and he's still perfectly fine just being a permanent resident so if he's frauding me then he's playing the long con." And also...he left his beautiful home, free medical care, and job in Shropshire to move with me to an Appalachian holler without broadband. If anyone's did the frauding in this situation then it's me. 

Back to show...I want to shake Sumit every time he gaslights Jenny to make things HER fault and then acts like there's zero reason to "rush" the marriage. And then I want to shake her for staying. 

I still think SteVen is playing up some of his crap because he thought the shtick would make him look lovable and quirky. He was so, so wrong. 

[S03.E13: Don't Overthink It]

3 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

This drives me to the brink every fucking time. "We only have 90 days to plan our wedding!" Um. You could have been planning it all this time. Once you decided you were going to marry, you could have started planning. They act like its a competition show challenge--"and your time starts......NOW!" But they expect us to believe that Alina went to Turkey, knowing the plan was to get married there, and didn't even have a dress? And they all act like they have to wait for the full 90 days to elapse to get married.  Nothing is stopping you from going to the courthouse any time you want! But the sad, thrown together wedding in some park or random Best Western takes three months to pull together. Sure. 

It's like the people who say, "We only have 90 days to decide if we want to get married!" No, dingbats, that's what you were meant to do before applying for the visa. The 90 days are to allow you to have time to plan your travel arrangements, fill out the rest of the paperwork, get settled into a new place, and get officially married. 

[S03.E13: Don't Overthink It]

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Kind of like Gordon Ramsey and Master Chef!  

This may be an unfair advantage as I am a teacher and yes we LOVE to plan, but I could full on plan a very nice wedding for this Saturday and have parents, siblings and maybe a few friends.  Call the restaurant for a private dining room, get with a florist, make some calls to invite, get an officiant (I know two) and.......well as you can see it is not that difficult.  Hell, I could plan this today on my prep!  (Which is now, lol....and lasts 49 minutes.)

 

Plus, they're in a country that neither are native to and without ANY nearby friends or family. What kind of wedding were they expecting to plan? 

[S03.E13: Don't Overthink It]

13 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Ladies, just a hard STOP on thinking a baby will change anything.  Wait, it WILL change everything.  You will have less money, less sleep, less time together and a baby does not need an agenda.  It needs to be a baby wanted by both people because they want a baby.  Thank you for attending my TedTalk.

Amen! My husband and I have lived through parent death, child death, unemployment, chronic health issues, depression...but NOTHING has been harder on our marriage than having a newborn. 

Sumit is pissing me the hell off, and I'd like to shake some sense into Jenny. 

I love this whole "we only have X number of days to plan our wedding!" No, you have X number of days to get married. There's a difference. Do what the majority of those of us with the 90 day visa did-get a courthouse (or embassy) marriage, get your paperwork filed, and then plan the wedding of your dreams at leisure. Looking at YOU SteVen and Alina...

I FF through Corey and Evilin. 

I'm actually starting to root for Victor. Not because I think he's right or I'm on his side but because Ellie is annoying the fuck out of me. 

Look, Ellie, whether there are lots of tourists or not, your quality of life on Providencia is probably not going to adhere to the same standards as it was in Seattle. I know this and I've never been there. If you want the same standard if living and the same amenities then you're going to have to live in Seattle. 

Ari can fuck right off. Again, it's not that I think Bini is right, it's just that I can't stand her.

I wish TLC would just admit that Ethiopia is going into civil war and it's not safe for anyone. 'I don't want to die and my embassy is clearing its citizens out" is a much more sympathetic storyline than "Baby embarrassed me so I refuse to return."

 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

At this point the only thing I think is genuine is Whitney's awful behavior. The scenes may be staged, but her reactions and general bullshit is all Whit. 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

9 hours ago, princelina said:

I think he kicked her off the team because he thought she was as fit as she promoted herself to be, and it turned out she couldn't keep up for a 5 minute video.  She likes us to think that she's the one who leaves, not that she gets kicked out, so that's how that story devolved. 

This makes sense. I also believe that her not making any friends while in Indiana was true as well. It says a lot that she wasn't hanging out with the other backup booties or the guy himself- everyone probably learned very quickly just what kind of personality she had.

I wonder if originally the season was going to be about her fabulous time on the road? 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

On 11/14/2021 at 9:22 AM, 3girlsforus said:

It seems they've moved from the core of the story being true with editing and recreations to full-on fake down to hiring people for the storylines and only filming completely set up events. I wonder if at least part of that shift is because of Whitney's volatile behavior. When the storyline is scripted with people in TLC employ they can control what happens (unless someone gets their girlfriend pregnant LOL). We've seen her sexual harass people, rant at people, throw tantrums, etc. It seems like it was only a matter of time until someone decided to pursue a lawsuit or criminal charges. By shrinking the circle of people on film, and putting them all on payroll with specific roles to play, the chances of her causing extra problems decrease. 

I'm wondering if the Avi storyline was the turning point. That may have come real close to crossing some lines that make TLC nervous. I know it seems like they DFAG about most things (domestic violence, sex tourism, poverty porn, Big Ed in general) but Whitney DOES seem very volatile. They may have decided that she was too much of a loose cannon. 

Re: the Chase storyline...

I think there was some fuckery going on across the board on everyone's part.

According to real estate records, though, Chase and Sara have been living together for YEARS. (The house They showed was a friend's.) They shared the dog, and well into filming local businesses were tagging them and posting about them on social media. They barely hid their relationship so I see no reason why Whitney wouldn't have known about it. 

I think someone, maybe Ryan or maybe Whitney, came up with the idea of using one of his friends as a storyline and TLC agreed and facilitated. They probably sold it to Chase and Sara as "it's not real, don't worry, you don't even have to see her outside of filming and PR stuff." But I also think that Whitney developed real (or as real as Whitney's can get) feelings for him. She may have honestly thought that he was developing them for her. Look at Roy. She wouldn't necessarily have had to "act". 

Knowing what I know now, I think they all-production, Whitney, Ryan, and Chase- had a hand in the fuckery. I don't think any one person masterminded the whole thing. However, I DO think that some of the other barnacles were unaware of what was going on. They don't seem to hang out outside of filming and the occasional Instagram hostage video she makes them film. Keeping the "real" story quiet would've kept their reactions more organic.

[S03.E12: Cold Feet]

Sumit's internet cafe chat with his friend was hilarious. Even his BFF knows something is wrong with Sumit. "You need to talk to a psychiatrist."

I don't care what Victor has done in the past, I feel sorry for him. Dude literally has no roof over his head and almost watched his family die. 

Maybe it's because I live in one of the poorest regions of the US, but I also hate it when people compare standards of living across the board. I actually think Victor's house is nice for where it is and what he does. It has a kitchen, a porch, a bedroom, is within walking distance to the beach...Not everything has to be a condo or a split level with an HOA. 

I ff through Corey and Evilin. I didn't give two fucks about them back when they were pretending to be NOT married. 

I love that Kenny and Armando are so boring that the biggest complaint about them is that Kenny is a crier. 

[90 Day: The Single Life]

I struggled through the first episode. It wasn't just that it was trashy, I LOVE trashy, but it had an even bigger sin-it was boring.

I've seen Jesse's posts on Instagram with Jenniffer and I absolutely believe it's all fake, probably contrived by Jesse himself. 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

On 11/11/2021 at 10:01 AM, Alapaki said:

 Fast forward to the phony Avi storyline (Shalom, Whitney!) and she was gushing over how he loved her BECAUSE of her size.  So . . . ?

I have a friend who teaches writing at the university in Greensboro. She works with Avi's sister. I got a little bit of dirt awhile back.

The Avi story was mostly real. It's one of the only major storylines that wasn't really fake. The majority of it happened offscreen and on social media and we didn't see it on camera. There were lots of women involved, though, and none were associated with the show. I think where Whitney exaggerated is how "serious" they really were. In reality, I think they only went on a couple of dates. She learned about the other women very quickly off camera and then reenacted it with Donna. Him dating multiple women and pulling those stunts with them was absolutely true, though, and he really did get ambushed at Starbucks by Whitney and the camera crew. 

Something weird happened with Nada during filming, though. I've heard it alluded to but I can only guess as to what it was. You notice that after the Starbucks ambush and Whitney's whole "he only wants to see YOU alone because he thinks you're weak and stupid" rant in the car (which was clearly just Whitney being jealous) we never really see or hear about Nada again. I think at that point Nada pulled away and left Whitney's house and refused to film anymore. Or she DID meet up with Avi because she'd flown thousands of miles and wanted (and deserved) answers, and Whitney lost her shit. Either way, there were rumblings of a fight that went down that same day and afterwards Nada was gone. 

I'm still trying to figure out what happened at the budget motel in Indiana with the Fitness Marshall. Something outside of Whit's normal fakery went down. There seemed to be big chunks of that story that we were missing. Sure, a lot of it like her friends driving up to get her like that was probably staged, but I think there were other elements of it that were very real. IMO the less sense the storyline makes, the more real it tends to be.  

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

12 hours ago, goofygirl said:

She's seriously clueless, isn't she?

And not in the Cher Horowitz (no relation) way. 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

11 hours ago, stoppro said:

can you return it? It sucks to give money to whitless least you can do is leave a nasty review, if you want i'll help but they probably would not print it.LOL

I actually had some Google Play credits from my book sales so it didn't cost me a dime, lol. Trust me, I wouldn't spend money on Whit.

So far the bright spot has been Jess, but she gets hidden behind Whit (no shade intended that time). Even she has issues, though, and doesn't compensate for the poor production. Jessica is a cross fit trainer, too, which doesn't always translate well in things like this.

I'll let y'all know when I've left a review. We'll see if it is removed.  

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

40 minutes ago, stoppro said:

Be careful. do you feel ok?

Depends. You mean physically or mentally? 😁

My kids are big into fitness apps. I'm turning them loose with this one to get their input. So far:

- there's no way to search or filter

- very basic design

- Whitney talks too much off topic

- there's no music

- production value is very low and cheap. Looks like someone recorded it on their iPhone.

- poor audio-at the very least they should invest in wireless mics 

- Jessica does a good job of explaining the exercises and walking you through them, but Whitney's "modified" version is basically just her sitting there waving her arms around.

- this is just an exercise app, not a wellness app (so nothing about diet or nutrition)

 

The general consensus so far is that it's not terrible, but it's not worth the money-ANY money. It doesn't carry anything that you can't already find on YouTube for free. My daughter says there are better (free) apps that look more professional and allow you to take notes, set goals, and create workout plans. She says this app, at most, should be $20 for the year. There's nothing special about it, though. You're basically paying for Whitney's name.  

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

I downloaded the app to see all the fuss. I'll update you on how it goes. I'm trying to go into it open minded. 

[S09.E12: Bon Voyage, Whitney!]

Look, I wouldn't care at ALL if my trainer was overweight. I DO, however, expect my personal trainer to have a basic level of fitness and mobility. I'm a lazy enough fucker as it is, I don't need a trainer who spends 80% of their time in bed and needs someone else to the their shoes.

[S03.E10: Stop The Excuses]

2 hours ago, Pepper Mostly said:

Because every "make up" gift he has for Alina is a religious item of some kind, I'll bet. So he can sorrowfully tell her how they're sealed for all time (or will be, if she actually marries him) so she needs to be a better Mormon wife. Here, read this/wear this sacred garment/go to this prayer meeting/see this Mormon therapist. Just another way to control her. Seriously, I want to kidnap her and send her home to her mother, who must be absolutely dying with anxiety and worry.

 I'd pay Alina to pick up a cappuccino in front of SteVen and right before she takes a big swig say, "I'm weak and being tested, but I'll ask God for forgiveness later."  And then order another one. 

[S03.E10: Stop The Excuses]

21 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Is eastern Kentucky known for gravy boats?

Gravy boats, gravy ladles, gravy pots...Girl, if it's fattening, unhealthy, and multi-purpose then you can bet we're using it by the gallon and finding as many containers as possible to put it in.  

[S09.E12: Bon Voyage, Whitney!]

3 hours ago, Alapaki said:

It’s gone from Whitney claiming that her life is “fabulous” despite her size to Whitney believing her life is fabulous (it isn’t) because of her size. 

And this is why she'll never lose weight or even try to engage in a healthier lifestyle as long as she's on the show and in the spotlight.

32 minutes ago, Emma C said:

Someone earlier asked about alternate theories of why Whit might be actually going to France. I'm wondering if she has some crazy medical procedure planned, something they won't (or can't) do in the US. Maybe some questionably legal stomach stapling or something.

I can almost guarantee you that didn't happen. 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

Disneyland and ferris wheel.

 

[Social Media: What's Up With Her?]

Whitney was not in Paris alone. She was with her friend Natalie and a camera crew (2 videographer and a production assistant). Her production assistant shared lots of photos and videos from the trip, including them on a rollercoaster at Disneyland and on the Eye together. Frenchie was never with them. It appears she only spent 1 day with him and they were not alone on that day.

All 3 of these were taken on the same day.