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Jenelle was not informed there would be cameras there so she did not go. DUH. :)

yes! the grandma club is the best! And Welcome to Ezra Mark (great name by the way).

I don't know for sure which episode I watched on Monday night- I am guessing from looking here that it was a repeat? I only caught the tail end of what looked like a possible reunion special (but I don't see it listed here) and Janelle was freaking out about everyone and everything and everyevery. What really got me was poor Kaiser being held by Nathan while everyone screamed at each other.......poor sweet adorable Kaiser was reaching and waving at anyone and anything. And the shouting continued.

See and this is where we can agree to disagree. She's got that symmetry going on big time and I agree she is attractive- but I thought the make up that was done to her in this reunion was bizarre and not flattering.On the superficial-EST of levels, I kept getting irritated every tie the focus was on her. Not quite the Brittany's mom 's frosted lipstick but that pale color was just creepy. IMO of course.

Whatever--- I do think that Kyle has the most attractive husband of the bunch.

I did watch last night, and I have to preface this by saying that I watch pretty much regularly but do miss some so some of this was unfamiliar to me. I was really amazed at just how much animosity there was at Kim (no judgement just observing) and how she seemed to be so flustered by it. I was also really struck by how distorted her face has become. And I think it's a disgrace that her daughter has followed in her footsteps with the fillers. How inappropriate is that.

Frozen Thin Mints............I am there!!!

Haven't watched this is a long time but somehow last night it was Kendra's turn to shop for wedding gowns. To me she really exemplifies the creepiness factor with a super sugary twist. I could not help but notice the few views of Michelle---------the woman did not look good. I was trying to decide if it was just normal aging or what but she really looked off. Again, I haven't been watching so maybe her change was gradual and normal. dont know just sayin'/

oy. will be curious to see how many (if any takers) there are.

I am a baby boomer as well and thought the gown was just not great. When she was talking about her VISION for the wedding being based on her GOWN which was VINTAGE I really expected VINTAGE. I mean she is a very attractive woman and carries clothing well, but IMO NOT that gown. I get that it was her mom's and that is lovely but I just didn't think it did anybody anything justice. And I really like David, and am so impressed with his English (and that of his friends. they were totally fluent- impressed)

Is there any more updated info on them? (am I in the wrong forum?).........inquiring minds want to know. :)

Somehow - not sure how but somehow I do believe if that was the case, we would know. (teevee producers- Azan's family- I am sure there is someone with contact info there. I can't imagine they just knock on the door when they want to film.

I may be really out of it but I was struck that so often when we see Mae she is wearing her head phones and looking at a screen. Yes I get that often the conversation is not really appropriate for her and that sometimes maybe it's good for her to occupy herself but to the degree that we see it, I think thiis is not a good thing.

I think Nicole' s cameos are showing her a bit more rational and well spoken- but yes she loses that quickly and easily. One thing I don't recall reading here (And apologies because I am not searching) but does Azan ping anyone else's gaydar? I don't sense it strongly but there is something there continuously to me.....

Amen. (or as I say-common sense and common courtesy are sadly neither). But yours is most def more appropriate here with Ambuh.

not sure what got linked- referring to the photo of Mack advertising for hair product---------is it me or does she not strongly resemble what's her name on Teen Mom ---Kale???? (before she butchered her lips:)

This is just perfection. I adore this. And yes, quite appropriate for Evelyn. And Is till do think she is so attractive.

I think that David really has not asked or demanded much from Evelyn and she seems to be laying down the law about everything--------his tux- where to live - etc. so I think the one thing he has made a point of- not discussing intimacy (and YES I think it's the point of on TV) ----------she cannot do that. Obviously I don't know but it seems to me that his issue is more with the on TV aspect. I think he didn't want that chat she had with her mom, where she was genuinely blushing and uncomfortable- to be had with the cameras going. I felt the same way when her mother very openly assured her. I thought it was a very good discussion- BUT I kept thinking are you kidding me ? Having such a private chat with the tv watching public???

I guess I really need to stop by here more often. I cannot imagine Sophia being homeschooled. Oh well that is one more tragic turn for the poor child. It;s not that I think Farrah is such a bad parent but I don't think she has sense to filter and now with Sophia not even getting a balance of exposure to other/different wrong or right better or worse-------I just think it is not in her favor and I truly do feel more sorry for her. ON the other hand, I wonder how long the home schooling will last. (there is hope maybe?). And yes why would Farrah be fired other than being so difficult and disrepectful-------but as you have compared her to Jenelle and Matt and Amber and and and,,,why is Farrah being fired?

I still have never really "gotten" the Mackenzie Ryan match. They just really don't seem like a match at all to me. And, they say she is 21???? Am I not understanding something here? Sorry for my ignorance but is that true? I am the WORST judge of age but I cannot belie ve she is 21.

All I can add is that Debra is a real mess but I guess I have to say without makeup omg. I guess I do feel for Farrah as she is also a huge mess, but what a crappy foundation she had thanks Debra. Every time I see Sophia, I really feel bad- this is not a fair upbringing. Poor child is not having a "normal " or fair or appropriate upbringing. I hope she turns out ok.....my heart does go out to her. the sh--t she sees and hears on a daily basis.

yes every time I watch I only see her lips. I couldnt decide what it was -- if she just puts it on sloppy or her lips are deformed or what but yes talk about distracting!!

love all the comments here- and super surprised that i have not seen mention of her giggle. THAT is annoying beyond tolerance.Her older daughter really seems to have it together. must say.

I think Evelyn is really attractive like model material/celebrity looking. Very vintage looking- maybe a little like Isabella Rosselini? this just came to me, I was originally thinking Audrey Hepburn-ish but along those lines anyway. I think she is so sheltered and pampered and so so not ready to compromise about anything. David seems like he is a lot more aware of things and maybe re-evaluating? he keeps saying how he is moving from his country his family his friends and she just doesn't get it. Like when she told him his people would need to stay at hotels and he said they couldn't afford it...........Evelyn said something to the effect that it's too bad that spending a little bit of money is not worth it to them to be at their wedding. A bit of a Scarlett O'Hara- I will think about that tomorrow. I think she is fun to watch ( I didn't really enjoy or get her singing) but she is a real pain in the butt and I pity David.

I feel bad sharing this but you know this is what we do here right? From the first time I saw Kendra and ever since, she seems like a sweet girl but so creepy -------and her mouth I mean her teeth are just over the top. And her giggle yes is just maddening. Her dad is so good looking and so young looking. Then I have to remind myself that they likely married at around 18 or so and then had their babies so of course he looks young. The dad actually said NOT YET when she said Kiss me Daddy. You know he had to make his whole speech. To me, she exemplifies the role the girls are hoped to play. Meek, timid, all depending on the MAN. I did think Michelle looked better than usual ; at least it looks like she is combing her hair and maybe even using some product. Remember how their hair all looked way back?