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I've asked a million times, but nobody says how you get out of MAFS without paying the penalty fine or being a big asshole? It hasnt happened on the history of the show. Maybe Clint and Gina, but even then Gina went all racist against Redheads, and Clint said he usually dated thinner woman. Chis was honest about Paige (da face) but we all cringed and hated it. It is possible that Austin had attraction at the alter, but when Becca started getting all whiny and begging for sex, that was a turn off. Puke said he was building attraction but that was a lie. Normally when someone says they are not attracted to someone Pastor Cal ask them if they want to end the marriage (pay a big fine). Then the person backs down. Nobody wants to pay that fine.

I knew I recognized her from somewhere. She has a different stage name. Austin lies about things that are inconsequential. Lie #1: Vaping - no big deal Lie #2: Hanging out with a group including the producer, but not sleeping with or even kissing her- no big deal Lie #3- He said the guys didnt hang out together, but when pressed, he said he hangs out with Michael alot, and then says he hangs out with Cam too. So he lied because he didnt want Brennan to know they dont like him. I have to change what I said about hanging out with all the guys. Brennan must be messed up if even the guys voted him off the island. So I would not hang out with him. From the hospital bed? I agree with you. He was trying to peace out as fast as he could.

They all were lying and exaggerating with the exception of Chloe and Lauren. I cant believe Becca and Emily let that gaslighter, Claire manipulate them. They seemed much nicer before they joined the Mean Girls club. I have a much more positive view of the men after these past 4 episodes. I always like Michael, despite his weirdness. I liked Austin because he seemed like a chill guy. I thought both Brendan and Cam were rude people, but after hearing the back story, I understand why. I now think the guys are all Ok, but only two of the women ok. I think the other three should get therapy. I agree that the women got their stories straight and were lying about some things. Their goal was to make the men look bad, not just move on with their lives. I'll watch the rest and comment more later. But I will say this, if Emily doesnt want people to think she is an alcoholic and a One Night Stand Kween, she should not sleep with everybody and brag about it. And not openly get wasted. And not do the split where her coochie was hanging out for everybody to see. Austin wasnt throwing his business out there; he just vaped in private and kept it to himself. Emily wanted to be the Woo Hoo girl, and that is the way people perceive her now. She doesnt seem like marriage material at all. Becca needs a lot of therapy before she is ready for anything. It might be too late for claire. What kind of therapist becomes a gaslighter and goes about destroying fragile relationships? An envious therapist that needs therapy herself. I would hang with any of the guys, but only Lauren and Chloe out of that group. Those three women need to work of themselves and not blame their husband for their issues, when it is really them that is the problem.

That was tall Keith. Grandma did laundry and cooked for him too.

I have not seen this episode yet, but I agree with you. I think it is a good thing when people feel confident about their bodies. If they want to take lingerie pics, I'm all for it. I mean, if you are 400 lbs, gstrings are probably not your look, but everybody should get to look good in lingerie, no matter what the body type. I do think they should realize what looks good or bad on their bodies- both the men and the woman. Becca didnt look good this season, just because she didnt put anything into it, like she did on Keisha's show. Mindy wasnt overweight, but she wore non-flattering attire. Gina dressed like weird towards the beginning of the season, but that might have been because she lost her real clothes. Michael, the liar from the other season, dressed like total shit- like wife-beaters. Cameron dressed dorky instead of sharp. This season's Michael is in his own category. But at least he put some thought into it, even if everything clashes. Id hire a stylist and have every outfit picked out before I went on this show. If posing in lingerie makes them happy, I am all for it.

I agree with you about the smelling part, although I thought Amelia and especially Bennet were smelling because their feet was dirty and their hair was ratty. But I remember when our boy Chris ("Its da face!") was wilding it out and people calling him a manwhore. Chris said that he didnt like Paige because of her face, but then kept on having sex with her, while having sex with his baby mamma. He got called out pretty harshly on primetimer. Some thought he was getting all the shit because he was a Black man, but it turned out that he was getting shit because he was a douchebag manwhore. So he deserved it in my opinion. I dont know if anybody ever called him a skank, but he was a skank, who wasnt ready for marriage. People called him all sorts of other bad names. Puke was trashed too. Not for being a manwhore, though. Emily needs to respect herself. All I saw the whole season is her desperation and then anger after her rejection. She should sit down with a shrink and figure out why guys never call her after the first date.

Bitch has evolved over the decades, like, when i was growing up it meant female dog and a derogatory term for women. Then it started evolving away from gender. I would credit rap and hip hop for starting the evolution. Bitches evolved to mean, "current girlfriend". Then rappers starting using it as a derogatory term against men. I would say mid 90s. Then others started using it as derogatory against men. Then it further evolved with women using it in a non-derogatory way. Like, "You are my bitches!". The Nword evolved like that too. To be called the Nword now, could be considered a complement, depending on who is saying it and in what context. I saw this show. I loved Samantha Jones. If I had to hang out with any of them, I would have chosen her character, and it would not even be close. The others were boring. Samantha was a very powerful woman, with powerful connections in NYC and LA. I would say she was more Boss Queen than a ho. And this is the most important part: She was NOT trying to get married or have any relationship and she was very upfront about it. And she generally got with manwhores so it was all good. They liked the fact that she was not into commitment. She was not desperate. Desperate for sex, yes. But not for men. And sometimes she had two or three night stands. And the guys always called her back for more. A few she had to get rid of because they were getting too needy and attached. Emily is no Samantha. Emily cant even get pass the one night stand. The other ladies wanted a knight in shining armor to save them. Samantha was not into depending on men. She knew that if you gave a man the ability to feed you, he could starve you if he feels that you are not acting the right way.

You got it! I never asked; I never told. That's on Emily. Had she not said anything, we would have never known. Its not like I have never had a one night stand. But that was never my primary dating strategy- like Emily. And if it was, I would never admit it to my new wife that I just met days ago. And then her doing all those shots at one time with Brennan, that would have put me under the table. She could have taken all of those shots on the down low and acted subdued like Austin, and nobody would have noticed. But Emily was mostly, woo-hoo!! I dont really judge Emily by her sex life. I dont think she is a bad person just because she sleeps with alot of men. But most men would have a hard time marrying her when she brags about it. If the genders were reversed, I dont things women would be flocking to men who admit they like one-night stands and heavy drinking as marriage partners. Some things are best left unsaid.

You are judging him because he doesn't want to be a self admitted skanky woman. Why would she ever tell a man she just married that she likes one-night stands, and that no man has ever called her back? What was Brennan supposed to think of his new wife? What I would be thinking is that this woman probably gave 365 bjs in the past year and has she been tested? And then to see the drunk behavior on top of this? Why do you think it is that no man has ever called her back? Was it the mens' fault or Emily's fault? I think that some people here are on Team Women, but they are not looking at the womens' behavior.

Do you think she remembers sleeping with guys? I think she doesnt. I think probably some guys probably took advantage of her while she was wasted. She doesnt seem like wife material at this point in her life. Maybe later she will be. But for now she seems like she wants to still ho it out. Its not sexists to call Emily out for her trampy behavior. Guys are called all sorts of names when they ho it out. Here are some of the names. Ho, bitch, whore, dog, are all part of this list. Why do you think it is sexist to call Emily out for being kinda skanky. She boasted about it. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Thesaurus:promiscuous_man

So when CHLOE needed time apart- that was cool! But Michael wanting time apart makes him a jerk. If someone told me that they wanted to foster 5 problemed teens who no one will foster, and a million animals, AND and expensive rental, I'd be out too. Did she even ASK Michael about what his dreams were. I didnt see that. Does Michael dreams even matter? Do you see the clothes he wears and the Range Rover he drives? Do you think he is going to let some troubled kid, key his car or let some old goat near his car? He is city folk, not country folk. Chloe must be on Special K, if she thinks he is going to get a spec of dirt on his Gucci's.

Me too. There are these basic 2 bedroom apartments down the road from me that go for $18K/month and they are just sooo basic. Studios are like $5K. Nothing to write home about. Some houses rent for $100K/month here, but at least they look above average.

So you are being coy too? Everybody knows what she meant. His eyes are like hazy at night. Ask yourself this, why did Becca keep asking Austin if he was vaping, when she already knew that answer to the question? Yet she said she didnt care. Ok...... I would prefer for her to treat the viewers as thinking human beings who understand logic. If he lied about something so innocent (vaping, hanging out in a group with the producer), what does that tell you about Becca? It means if he told her the truth she would make things unpleasant for him. Or else why lie over benign things? And you really believe Becca when she said vaping doesn't bother her. She is sober.

I assume Austin has a decent job and doesnt sit on the couch all day with his vape? Obama smoked weed, so did Bush II and Bill Clinton. I'm not saying these people were brilliant, but they did accomplish something. I think the issue is that government brainwashed people with propaganda so that many think that if someone smokes weed, they are lazy and unproductive. But that would be like calling someone who has a glass of wine a few times a week a lazy alcoholics. There are alcoholics and potheads, but most who drink or smoke are not.

I actually SAW Emily getting lit up. I didnt know that Austin smoked weed until innocent Becca outed him. Becca characterized Austin's vaping as excessive, but she never said what that meant to her. Why would I defend Austin over something that I dont know is true and is undefined? I guess what really irks me that that people keep pretending that weed is dangerous but alcohol is not, like someone smoking is like some bad guy. When it really was the government lying to its citizens about the risk and dangers? Why is Austin a bad man just because he smokes weed?

We are not stupid. She lives in freaking Colorado. She knows exactly what that smell is? Why does she have to ask him what the smell is when she knows what the smell is. That's called passive-aggressive nagging. She thinks the viewers are stupid. She says she is cool with it but then ask what the smell is when he is vaping in the bathroom. No she is not cool with it, or else she would not have outed him on national TV. She wouldnt have even mentioned it. Like when I took women out on dates, I didnt point out that they were drinking or mention that it smelled like alcohol, lolz. I think the exact words were, "Austin vapes ALOT". Thats a lowkey way of calling someone a pothead. She pretends like she doesn't care, but she does care, or she would not have outed him. "I dont really care about this except I am making a bid deal about this". She is not really fooling anybody.

No, its the opposite. Smoking weed is the thing that stinks. Vaping weed smells like fresh flower and often has a nice aroma.

Yes she said he vaped excessively. I translated her comment for everybody. She didnt need to share that with everybody, even if it was true- especially since her new bestie, Emily was wasted a bit of the time and she said nothing about it.

Is there evidence that Becca was not lying about how she was cool with weed? Yes there is evidence that she is toxic and creates toxic and creates toxic environments. And it came out of her own mouth. She admitted that she has gaslighted previous partners. Gaslighters create toxic environments. Now all of a sudden she is an angel and not a gaslighter? Since when. Have you gaslighted people? I have not. She lied on Emily and hid her slip up, but is all over Austin, lolz. She lied about not caring about vaping or else there is no reason for Austin to hide it. Then she called Austin a pothead on national TV without any evidence. But somehow its not appropriate to call Emily an alcoholic despite us seeing her getting wasted and wasted time and time again. I see the double standards. Here is the science behind it if you want to geek out on it. https://www.leafly.com/news/science-tech/science-vaping-marijuana-oil-concentrates

You are passing judgement on cannabis users. How often do people ask whether they drink or whether they are a teetotaler? Like never. I never even asked this question when I was dating. You dont understand how destructive this fake propaganda has been to American families. The only reason why there was even a War on Weed in this country is because.....well I will just let you read why: https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html

I'm just not stupid. If Becca really didnt care about vaping they wouldn't even need to talk about it, hence no lie. But she obviously does care about vaping so she would consider it "lying" every time he vaped but didnt inform her. Why would you ask if someone is vaping unless you wanted to vape yourself, or nag them about vaping. Becca is lying badly. She thinks we are stupid and dont understand logic. She is not cool with vaping despite what she told us.

Why does he have to ask Becca's permission to vape weed? Does she have to ask his permission every time she wants to do something? Every time I drink, I dont have to clear it with my gf. I dont know why Becca creates that type of environment where guys want to keep benign secrets from her. This seems like something Becca should work on. And she is easily manipulatable. The shrink got into her head and manipulated her into joining Team Mean Gurl. She was ok at the beginning of the season, but her bestie Claire was a bad influence and got her to see the worst in Austin. Maybe Austin was vaping to deal with the stress of the show. I do know one thing: every season I see people getting fucking WASTED on the daily and this type of judgement doesn't come their way. Its like its normal. Emily was fucking wicked wasted at that bachelorette party. When she was with Brennan, she downed all those shots that would have put me under the table. Then people on this forum kept insisting that she was not an alcoholic- saying she is just having a good time. Then Austin vapes and doesn't make an ass of himself, and all of a sudden he is the druggie bad guy? The people who think this way have an issue with weed, but just dont want to come out and say it, so they couch it in other issues. They are prejudiced against smoking weed. They think Austin is bad just because he smokes weed. And Emily is good because she drinks alcohol.

Sometimes when you are stoned and just trying to make it through, you just dont give a shit. The thing that really surprised me about Austin is that I assumed he was going bald, when in fact he had hair growing out of everywhere. He had neck hair. But he mostly covered it up. Why would a man with great hair cover it up? Was it a flex?

When my ex got wasted on alcohol, did I complain at all? No, because I didnt give a shit. What is worse alcohol or weed? More people died yesterday from alcohol poisoning than weed in the history of humankind. People who died from weed =0. Who gets into fights: people who are wasted on alcohol, or people who are stoned. Lets cut the the BS propaganda on all of this. Austin vaping > Emily drunk blackouts. I didn't LIE, I just didn't tell her. Did she tell me every time she had a drink? She lied by omission too, right? Becca is not right. Whatever she did, Austin doesnt feel like he can be straightforward with her. She needs to work on that. Maybe Becca is lying. She ratted out her hubby for vaping, even though there is nothing wrong with that, but didnt rat out her bestie for making out with the Australian, and possibly giving him a BJ. I dont even think he lied. I think he just didnt tell her. And Becca is considering that a lie.

In CA and CO, people openly smoke. There is no stigma. Everybody vapes too. There is no reason to hide something if your partner is cool with it. She outed him with the vaping anyways, so it kinda obviates your point. She probably doesnt like that he drinks too, but wont bring that up because she knows how stupid it would sound. I never saw him vape. The only reason why I know, is because she outed him out of spite. So that implies that she obviously had a big problem with it. Or else she would have never mentioned it, like Emily's cheating. Vaping is worse than cheating? No one I know would ever say that.