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  1. giaNtsandYankees

    S10:12 Tell All: Part 1

    Whoops! I "shoulda" read your post before "postingk" mine! Sorry!
  2. giaNtsandYankees

    S10:12 Tell All: Part 1

    But...but...they "shouda" been together from day one. The disturbingly creepy pencil drawing confirms this! 😨
  3. giaNtsandYankees

    Aspyn Brown: She Has The Man, But May Eventually Get "The Family"

    Guys, I got more for you. Are you ready for it? Rosemary (Thompson) Williams' (Mitch's aunt - half or whole, I'm not sure). parents are... Lynn Anderson Thompson (as we know) and Donna Beth (Allred) Jessop (Aspen's great-great aunt). Beth Allred Jessop (sister to Rulon Allred, Rosemary's grandmother and Christine's great aunt) has had two daughters (with Joseph Lyman Jessop) that had married Joseph Blaine Thompson. I'm not sure if this Thompson is kin to Lynn. It's a possibility. I still need to do some digging. I had found Lynn's mother though. Apparently she was married four times. Her fourth marriage was to...Christine's grandfather Rulon Clark Allred. But he's definitely not Lynn's father. It was either Joseph Orlando Thompson or William John Worth Kilgrow. (Some records has Lynn's surname as Kilgrow). On a random note: I do believe that a lot of the Jessops in the AUB community are related to each other be it close or distant. It turns out that Joseph Lyman Jessop was the only Jessop to follow Rulon when he organized the Apostolic United Brethren which was organized the same year as the FLDS in 1954. But a few Jessops could had left FLDS and joined AUB. It's possible.
  4. giaNtsandYankees

    Aspyn Brown: She Has The Man, But May Eventually Get "The Family"

    That's a good question. I know if I were brought up in those polygamist communities, I would be doing research to find out who is family. I wonder if anyone in the AUB does. Many of the Kingstons (the men mainly) don't because that's what they're known for - keeping their bloodline "pure." *Bleech!* It wouldn't surprise me if the FLDS doesn't, because it's well known that there has been a lot of cousin marriages (yes, between first cousins) that had taken place there. Especially with there being many cases of Fumarase Deficiency which is considered to be a rare condition. I wonder if the AUB does research or any of the other sects or the Indie Fundamentalists. Marlene and (her husband) Isaiah "Thompson" Barlow of Centennial Park/Polygamy USA are first cousins, but they were Indie Fundamentalists prior to joining the community. I assumed that they were AUB because Marlene is related to a few people in the AUB, one of them being Christine who is Marlene's second cousin. Isaiah is related to all three Darger wives, and is also related to Joe Darger. Christine and Kody are third cousins through an Allred. I do wonder if they knew or didn't know. If they didn't I wonder how not considering Kody's grandmother is an Allred (Daisy Josephine). We have the oldest Williams' daughter (My Five Wives) Karlie Williams who is married to Jake Jessop who is her triple-cousin through a few Jessops (Joseph Lyman and Richard) and an Allred (William Moore Allred). I'm wondering if she knew or didn't know considering all of her "mom's" are cousins and two or three of them have the maiden name of Jessop. On a random note - I believe that Paulie's (Karlie's mother) maiden name was Watt. From what I've read and seen on a Canadian documentary regarding Winston Blackmore's group, there are a lot of knots within their family wreath. But when you have a population of about 1,000 that are descended from only half a dozen men, and Winston himself having about 150 children, it's probably inevitable. Winston is related to quite a few Jessops, and his daughter Sally Blackmore is married to a Jessop. It does make you wonder if they do any research to see if they are marrying a near or distant relative. In some cases, it doesn't seem that way. But I wouldn't know.
  5. giaNtsandYankees

    Aspyn Brown: She Has The Man, But May Eventually Get "The Family"

    Okay, Joseph Lyman Jessop is indeed the grandfather of David Preston Jessop. Edited to add: David's parents are Louis LeMar Jessop and Mary Diane Allred (who is the half-brother of Christine's father Rex Allred). I guess ol' David Sr. also has some double polygamous royalty blood as well. Quite a few tangles within the Jessops and the Allreds it seems... More to come... Or maybe I'll consider beginning a blog similar to PoliticsPrinciple...
  6. giaNtsandYankees

    Aspyn Brown: She Has The Man, But May Eventually Get "The Family"

    True. Frighteningly and sickeningly enough, it's much deeper than that. The men marry their half-sisters, cousins and nieces. They believe that they are descendants of Jesus so they inbreed "to keep the blood in the family." I'm queezy just writing this shit down.
  7. giaNtsandYankees

    Aspyn Brown: She Has The Man, But May Eventually Get "The Family"

    I am going to look into it when I get some free time, but I'm sure there is a good chance that the "Purity Stealer" David Preston Jessop is related to Donna Beth Allred Jessop and Joseph Lyman Jessop. Joseph Lyman Jessop is the great-grandfather of Paulie Williams as mentioned before, Paulie is a first or second cousin to David Preston Jessop, so he may be a descendant of the former. Since Paulie and her four sister wives are cousins, they are all related to David Preston Jessop, he's either first or second cousin to all of them. He's definitely not third or distant. There's a good chance that there is. We have them on Sister Wives, with Robyn's children being Jessops. Even though they are legally Browns, no creepy drawing will change the fact that they have Jessop blood in their veins. We also have the cameos of Mindy Jessop, Robin's niece (and interestingly enough, David Preston's second cousin). Christine is also a descendant of a Jessop and a LeBaron. So she definitely is Polygamist Royalty. She and David are first cousins through her father, Rex Allred. In My Fives Wives we have maybe two or three of the five wives who's maiden names are Jessop. And the oldest Williams' daughter is married to Jake Jessop. In Polygamy USA/Centennial Park group (which would make sense, since they broke away from the FLDS which has plenty of Jessops), we have quite a few folks that are either Jessops or a descendant of a Jessop. Michael "Creepy" Cawley's grandmother was a Jessop. Isaiah "Thompson" Barlow is a descendant of a Jessop and interestingly enough, a Kingston. I'm not sure about anyone from Escaping Polygamy though. But you never know. Is there any other shows that I am missing?
  8. giaNtsandYankees

    S02.E10: One Wedding and a Funeral?

    Okay...the opening scene where we see Vanessa and Dimitri in bed. Yes, we are to believe that they did the deed, put their pajamas on and the unlocked the doors so the camera crew can come in and show the morning after. Yeah, it's evident that some scenes are reenacted or whatever for a narrative. The way the previews brought in Ashley's confession made me think that Ashley was going to confess that she wanted to jump in or wanted to go after Vanessa. I'm sure it's coming. It happened with the last potential sister wife. The drawing of the Bindi with the Sharpie. Gag. I wonder how much cultural appropriation will take place for the theme of the wedding. I wonder if there will be as much drama as the previews had shown. The Alldredges...I know that a lot of people here like them (and they come off as the most likable out of all of the couples) but I wonder if they're just doing this show for a paycheck...or if they are truly that naive. They've been played TWICE where that wasn't the case with the other couples. Seriously, the next time they go on the hunt for a sister wife, they need to do some Facebook/social media stalking before really getting involved and especially before getting the children involved. Unless TLC does the picking all for the sake of a story line. Still, I believe that it might be for the paycheck. They do have a big house in the works, and did get a vacation to Niagara Falls out of it. I highly doubt they have the money to take vacations with so many children (and from looking at scenes of the birthday party of one of the children). I said it in another post, maybe they should go to community events hosted by the AUB if they are badly in need of a third wife to get their own planet. But I guess the producers of Seeking Sister Wife is not all for it (or the AUB would not allow it). It's probably find your mate online or no go. But I wouldn't mind another season of featuring the Centennial Park folks (which I know is not going to happen), so maybe they should move there, and they'll for certain get a third wife. The Winders...they're like watching paint dry. I do get shades of Robyn and Auralee from Sophie. Funny enough, I cannot remember why. I don't remember much from their segment this week. Anyone know what happened with Jay? The McGee's. Wow! Their story line reminds me so much for the Snowden's from the previous season. When last season started, the Snowden's seemed likable, but that changed as the season went by. In the beginning the McGee's seemed somewhat likable, but those two are a piece of work. I feel sorry for their children. I want to empathize with Paige as far as how she treated Brandi, because she told Bernie that she did not want to practice polygamy/share him, but then she said "When I read the Bible and pray, I know that this is something that I want to do." Which is it Paige? Bernie...I was not feeling the alternative motive that he had with making Paige dinner and saying, "We should invite Brandi back." I do feel that things were moving too fast with Brandi and that family. With the kids becoming attached, and Brandi and Bre saying that it felt like home. But if Paige wanted to stand her ground, she should not have called Brandi and invited her back. Even though the way Paige handled herself was passive-aggressive, it did seem b*tchy and selfish with the, "The right way is MY way" when it comes to FOLDING TOWELS and FILLING UP THE DISHWASHER. I would have loved to see what had gone down when the cameras were off. But Paige seemed a little immature that morn when the three of them got together to try to fix their issue. Paige was taking zero responsibility and pretty much stormed off. I'm sure Bernie was upset because he got cock-blocked by Paige. I feel for the boys being upset. They're probably very sheltered due to the home-schooling and not having much of a community. I remember their taking about being kicked out of their church because they wanted to become polygamists, and because of that the boys don't seem to have much community. Which is probably why they became so attached to Brandi and Bre. Brandi, you're not missing anything by leaving Bernie. What did she see in him to want to get physical with him (I'm talking hugs and kisses, not sex. I'm not sure if she had that on the brain like Bernie had). I'm curious to know what those two (Bernie and Paige) are like in real life. Especially after hearing about the things that Paige had posted in the SSW Facebook group. They're probably more toxic and volatile than seen on television. If Paige is lonely and wants a friend, she'll have a hard time finding any after this I'm sure. Again, I feel sorry for the boys. Because of their parents (event though Bernie seems warm towards them) and because of everything that had gone down on national television). I truly hope they ask to live with their older siblings for some kind of normalcy, but by law that's probably not possible.
  9. giaNtsandYankees

    10:09 Kody's Secret Plan

    I'm probably going to think/say this every episode, but man do I want to grab a Noxzema cleansing cloth, take it to Meri's face and get rid of that orange make up (if it is make up) eye shadow, eyeliner and eyebrows. Yeah, I'm being shallow. Christine, Meri and Janelle's couch interview where Christine says, "I'm glad Robyn's not here because she would cry." And then we see Meri laughing and Janelle smirking. Quite telling, isn't it?
  10. giaNtsandYankees

    S10:08 Aspyn's Royal Wedding

    Here are some "receipts" to prove the Kody-Christine family dynamic. Below are the trees of Kody's mother Genielle Tew Brown and Christine's father Rex Allred. You'll see where their lineages intersect at William Moore Allred and Orissa Angela Bates. I'm still trying to find Kody's familial ties to the Jessop clan. Edited to add: I realize the quality might be a tad poor. Sorry guys.
  11. giaNtsandYankees

    S10:08 Aspyn's Royal Wedding

    Yes, much better than Kodouche's "manspreading." Ugh...need Brain Bleach...
  12. giaNtsandYankees

    S10:08 Aspyn's Royal Wedding

    Yes,Kody and Christine are cousins through William Moore Allred and Orissa Angela Bates. From a post on the now defunct PoliticsPrinciple blog, it sounds like Kody and Christine also might be related through David Preston Jessop, Sr. So they might be double-cousins. David Jessop is simultaneously first and second cousin to Christine -first cousin through Christine’s father Rex Allred, a half-brother of David’s mother Mary Diane Allred; second cousin through Christine’s ste-pgrandmother Ethel Jessop, a sister of David’s father Louis LaMar Jessop David Jessop is also a third cousin of Kody. I'm not sure whom through though.
  13. giaNtsandYankees

    Aspyn Brown: She Has The Man, But May Eventually Get "The Family"

    Yes, Mitch is Lynn Thompson's grandson. I know last year that I said that Mitch was his son, but I learned that Mitch is actually Lynn's grandson. He's also Rosemary William's (from My Five Wives) nephew. Brother of Vanessa Alldredge - which I'm sure everyone knows. He might be kin to Auralee Briney, as her maiden name is Thompson. Now here's where there are some twists and turns in this family... Two of Lynn's wives are Allreds: Donna Beth Allred Jessop and Rhoda Mills Allred, Christine's great-aunt and half aunt respectively. Rhoda Mills Allred is the half-sister of Christine's grandfather Rulon Allred. Donna Beth Allred Jessop is the daughter of Joseph Lyman Jessop and Beth Allred. Interestingly enough, Joseph Lyman Jessop is the great-grandfather of Paulie Williams (My Five Wives), and she (Paulie) is a cousin of her sister-wife Rosemary Williams. It's possible that Mitch and Aspyn might be cousins. Even though Mitch's parents weren't polygamists, from what I had read, they still attended the AUB church. Maybe Papa Thompson brought them, maybe Hannah protested it, I don't know. But Aspyn said that it was in that church where she and Mitch met. It could have been that community that led some of Mitch's siblings into living the polygamist lifestyle. Mitch's sister is married to the son of Jeff and Cynthia Alldredge. Mitch's brother is married to Jeff and Cynthia's daughter, and to a girl from the Jessop clan.
  14. giaNtsandYankees

    S02.E08: Don't Go Breaking My Heart

    I'm just catching up with this episode... I agree that the Alldredges need to give it up. This is the second time they've been burned by a "potential sister wive" (and I use that term loosely) that they met on the internet. They're AUB, right? Or are they Independent Fundamentalists? If they're AUB (and if Jeff needs his third wife to inherit his planet), can't they just go find a meetinghouse that holds social gathering and find a wife that way? I heard that there are plenty of communities in the bordering states. Being out of state shouldn't be an issue since their last two prospectives were living in another state from them. But then again, that's probably not a part of the show's premise. It's probably just "find someone online" or no go. Or maybe the AUB church doesn't want cameras near them or their communities. I remember at Kody's wedding reception to Robin that there were plenty of attendees that asked to not be filmed. Plus we didn't see the meetinghouse or the schools that the family and the children (respectively) attended. And Kristin Decker wasn't allowed to mention AUB on the UNLV panel episode. But who knows. Then again, maybe they can join Centennial Park. They most likely will not have much freedom with CP, like they do as Indie Fundamentalists/AUB since there are rules to follow there. But Jeff may get this third wife via placement marriage. Even old Arthur Hammond was able to get himself a younger wife (I'm assuming so, since some of his children shown in one of the episodes were really young). Plus, I wouldn't mind a second season with the Centennial Park group. But that clearly isn't going to happen... I can't believe that Vanessa's sister gave in. But I guess it was bound to happen. I wonder what Brandi and Bre's deal is. As other's said, they seem very eager to be a part of that family. The oldest boy stating that he enjoyed having people to talk to - as always, I feel for him. I hope he gets out of that house soon. Bernie continues to sleeve me out. After asking Brandi what's next, the look that he gave her clearly said that he was eager to find a cheap hotel and do the deed. Paige, leave his ass! Because he clearly doesn't just want yours! I was close to asking the same questions regarding the Winders, about finding a polygamist community to find a wife, but again, that's probably not a part of the show's premise. Also, the community probably wouldn't go for it. Nest Episode: It's D-Day for the Snowden's. How will Ashley and Dimitri know if the PH of Vanessa's vag align's with the former's? I really don't want to know that shit... Will we see Dimitri foam at the mouth while waiting for night fall? Will Vanessa come out alive? We'll see...
  15. giaNtsandYankees

    S10:08 Aspyn's Royal Wedding

    Okay, I just caught up with the episode, and I haven't read the entire thread yet. So if I'm repeating anything that anyone had already written, I apologize in advance. Robyn crying stating that the "piece of paper" didn't matter; but the eternal covenant did. Gag! Easy for Robyn to say when she HAS that piece of paper. If I were on that couch, I would have unabashedly given that chick the side-eye. Does it matter to Janelle? Of course not! She and Kody are more like buddies rather than husband and wife. After she had the kids she wanted, their relationship probably became what it truly is. Plus, she had that "piece of paper" with Adam Barber. But we know what happened with that... I still wonder what she saw in Kody or why she married him since their marriage seems to be a very platonic one... On a shallow note, I WISH Meri would get rid of those damn eyebrows and that eye shadow. It's not flattering on her AT ALL. I kept looking for the Alldredges, because I knew they were in attendance. One of the wives (I believe it may have been Vanessa) had photos on her Facebook page. Maybe I missed them. I did see their name on the guest list/seating cart, or whatever it was. It was nice to see an "if you blink, you'll miss it" appearance of Logan and Michelle. On the other hand, I do admire them for staying out of the spotlight. Ironic, huh?
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