Mz Anthrope

The scene where Tommen jumps through the window reminded me of the scene in Dead Poet's Society where the actor takes off Puck's crown and sets it on the window sill. I knew what would then happen. And, although I haven't yet had a chance to read through all of everyone else's comments, I've started rewatching and had a horrible thought. I am wondering if Cersi figured Tommen would be in attendance on the trial, so his being dead was a forgone conclusion to her? His having jumped out the window was just a different way for him to have gone. Understandably, he was running late, and FrankenMountain at that point held him back, but she may have only found out about his still being there from the person who'd been to his room previously. So, she planned on his being dead one way or the other... ? I teared up with Davos confronting the Red Witch. His love for Shereen was more than evident even before. She had nothing to say to anything - nothing with any stick to it. And I really didn't like the look between Sansa and Dickfinger. I don't think that bodes well for Jon. Lady Mormont - you are one fierce, awesome being. I hope she doesn't die an ugly death on here. FrankenMountain torturing the woman who'd taken such pleasure in meeting out 'justice' to Cersi is going to be ugly, but did anyone see what he might actually have been *doing* to her when she started to scream holy terrors? We couldn't figure it out. His arms, to us, didn't look like they were moving at all. My husband and I are both feeling the timeline whiplash. I get that characters were being developed 'along the trail' in the beginning and I really enjoyed the relationships formed. Watching Brienne and Jaime, Bron and Tyrion, and the Hound and Arya was some of the most enjoyable storylines for me. And I get the action is having to move quicker because winter has FINALLY arrived, but damn... the Varys left, is now in Dorne, but wait, he's now on the ships with Dany and crew. Takes something from the enjoyment for us. Really good episode over all and fancheered several times :-) It would be delicious to see Arya slake the life from Cersi, but I am wondering if Jaime's going to beat her to it.

And I am *doubting* you get to enjoy the spoils of war. Poor Wun Wun probably wasn't allowed back at the whore house.

I am really disappointed in this episode. Between the non-intrigue of Arya's story (although happy to see she has her balls), Riverrun with its non-battle (I really wanted to see Blackfish kick some major ass), and the Hound only getting to kick out a stump from under two. And meh on Dany coming back. Only intrigue for me was Varys and Tyrion. Most Famous in the World indeed!

With regards to Arya, I am dubious it was her. I've never seen Arya walk with her hands behind her back, nor have I seen her so direct and aggressive with a flat tone. That's more Jaqen to me. The height is different, but the walk, the direct and somewhat flat expression (with the exception of that one glint/eyebrown lift and smirk) all said "not Arya" to me. Personally, I think he of no name could see the envy and ego of the Waif and is setting her up. I don't think he cares about WHO it is that's killed, just that another face is needed. And I think the Waif is being tested just as much, if not more, than Arya. She's had a bug up her ass since Arya arrived, and everything she's done (the fighting with Arya without being directed to do so, the petulance, etc) would seem to me to speak of HER not being ready to serve the many faced god. Lady Olenna - how I love thee. Let me count the ways! Giving it so directly and succinctly to Cersi was just effing beautiful. I hope it didn't give Cersi the idea to have her thrown in the stockades before she's able to leave (which I fear she might now that she has some kind of possible retribution for having the mic dropped down her on face) and that Olenna is able to get out to work with Margery. With Margery, I could tell between her discussion with Loras and her shift in demeanor with the Sparrow King that she's playing the long game. And I agree with the person who'd posted that they suspect HS is attracted to her and she's playing it. When she sat down after having read from the Book of the Mother, she laid her hand palm up and slightly open... I took it as a subtle invite to the HS. I don't know if he's aware of the game she's playing and has no interest in her, but is feigning to get more control of her, but I am personally thinking he has something for her. I also agree with the posted who'd noted the Hound's 'inner boy' coming out at times. I noticed his awkwardness clumsiness in brushing off the Septum's hand poking at where his leg had been broken. I thought he must have accepted and started to trust Ian's character because he wasn't afraid of him, was kind and encouraging, and would even laugh at the Hound. Sad we only got Ian for one episode. I am hoping we have movement soon. And that we get to see Tyrion and Varys again. Did anyone else get the feeling that Dany is becoming more like the Mad King with her speeches? Edited for spelling correction

When is Jorah going to come clean about his new 'condition' - gray-scale? And when is it expected in the disease's progression that he's going to begin going batshit crazy? I can just see him out there with hair boy searching for Danarys and the insanity begins. And has Gilly been over swaddling Baby Sam?? The kid's not grown WHATSOEVER since they arrived at the wall. Does the focus on these stories this season mean that we're going to getting back into the neglected storylines like Bran and Company? Just a Hodor to all my Hodors, btw. And I dig that GRRM really is into sex, but is the Sand Skanks story going to go anywhere? I mean... with purpose? Can we please see the Mountain back with Arya in some form? I think I really enjoyed her character the most when those two were together. And I am going to stop here because I feel like I am beginning to sound like the announcer at the end of the Batman tv show episodes...

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I am only on page 1 of reading all the comments, but to me much of this lame fail of a season seems like it could have been written by the same dudes who write the scripts for the WWE story-lines. Stupid sand idiots. Numerous gratuitous/reaching/telesgraphing/plunked in for some reason scenes. Lack of continuity or heaped with hints and tells that it's a relief to have the scene finally come and go. Have to say - LOVE the WW scenes, Tyrion and Varys, and how much Jon has ... HAD... grown. Those story lines were most likely written by Jim Ross, maybe. Wow. For me, a disappointing season. I am more sad about the fact that I don't have that "I HAVE TO WAIT A WHOLE YEAR TO FIND OUT X?!?!" feeling after the last episode. Oooo... new season of True Detective might take this bad taste out of my mouth. Thanks for allowing me what's most likely not a popular view rant :-) Edited to correct : Telegraphing instead of telescoping. Damned depressing even my rant looked stupid

So, when is Jorah going to 'be honest' and 'trust Dany' by telling her he has grey scale? And Arya's storyline died big time for me after the Hound. Who's to say the thin dude isn't a man in disguise testing her? And thank you again Tyrion for your 'what the many gods...' expressions when checking out the dragons. Did anyone else, after Dany took off and they were panning back to the remaining four, think it was a lot like the Avengers pan in the first movie when they were all standing around in the street?

Effing beautiful... I am still sore deep in my skull bones

I still need to keep reading everyone's posts (only up to page 2 of comments so far), but I keep thinking about something Stannis said offhandedly at The Wall He was looking at the dragon glass and said it was plentiful where he came from/grew up. So, could this possibly be a major banding together of leaders to defeat the White Walkers and the Dead Army? Dany and her dragons, John and anyone with Valaryian steel, and Stannis sailing back to his homeland, get as much dragon glass as possible, and arm as many as are still alive? And Bran - who knows what may be doing -- maybe a lot of Dr Xavier stuff and looking around to find other wargs or something? I dunno... Those three, to me, just seem like the ones really rising to the top right now. Who knows what the eff is going to happen next week.. Dany could marry Tyrion and Jorah kill 'em both then infect all of those around him and everyone move back to Stone People Creepville so he can at least be where Dany's family hailed from. (and yes, that massively unlikely rabbit hole was kind of fun to run through :-D ) Just wondering how, if at all, this will all arc/play out. And count me in as being someone who's wondering where Varys is. He might just be keeping tabs on Littlefinger. By the by - speaking of peeps long since heard from... what about (and pardon, but I've forgotten his name) the dude who Red Witch seduced that Onion helped get away by boat?? Okay, back to reading some great posts :-)

Damn! LOL Directly into the pocket :-D

Without question. The Sand 'fight' (can't even call it a faux skirmish) was sad to be kind. For all the writers/directors have delivered with previous fight scenes, seems like they're letting the interns take the reigns this season

My husband wondered the same...lol Very sad to see him go. Loved his presence.

From what I could tell, Sansa picked up keys while walking behind Ramsay on the boards. I was *waiting* for the Sparrows to remember Lancel's confessions. He'd 'unburdened' himself when he'd joined, thus freeing him (paraphrasing big time). I am wondering if the High Sparrow knew this all along and just used Cersi's visit to maneuver his way into authority and the castle. Tyrion cracks me up! Very sad to see Aemon go. Loved his character. He brought much and did so with quiet dignity. Yep, Sam's pretty much got Ghost at his back and that's about it from what I can tell. Jon's gone, so there's not a lot of protection. Very interesting to see Marjery's true self come out. Not one bit of whining... just really bitter determination. Not sure how long Stannis is going to do right by his daughter. Missing my Hodor, but thanking the Seven there's no fricking Bran

How I would *love* to see Cersei captive to Olenna and Olenna get very close to Cersei's face and say, "It was me, you ignorant twat, who killed your boy... and I wasn't the only one who enjoyed watching him die!" And with regards to the Sparrow's and their high morality, wouldn't Lancel have admitted, in his confessions/coming clean, to have killed the King per Cersei's orders? I am wondering if that's ever going to come into play and snag her. I doubt it given she's the Queen Mother, but...

I don't know that I can stomach any more ugly happening to Sansa. This episode was well too much pain and filth done upon her. Pathetic, delusional Cersi... Lady Olenna has always been much more than you could ever hoped or imagined you could become. She doesn't suffer anything kindly... Poor acting during the Sand fight scene. Loved the gentleman who'd corralled 'em all in! This season, for me, isn't near what the other seasons have been. I honestly don't know that I care about where the stories go from here if these painful and brutal arcs continue without some amazing victories on the side of good. Even a Joffrey type death isn't enough. Would *love* if Brienne just knocked the shit out of the Boltons single-handedly and Littlefinger was left in the dungeons for rats to feast upon.

And didn't Fitz just put his hand up or on it and we heard a 'kerchunk'? I was wondering if something he'd done (inadvertently or on purpose) unlocked the cube. Hmm... Fitz with a super boss badass arc? I could see the actor pulling it off :-) Other odd thoughts (husband and I watched it last night): Raina mentioned she was going to become an angel... a herald. I wonder if she knew she needed to be killed to transform completely. She said that this would be the last time Skye saw her (if I am remembering correctly), which indicates to me that she may still be able to communicate with her Coulson said he had an idea for his hand. I looked at my husband chuckling and said, "Wonder if he means a 3D model of Iron Man's hand?" Something he and Deathlock came up with would also be really cool. Loved Lincoln's line about their not being bad, just misdirected. Would love to see what he could do in Skye's "Secret Army" Mac being "pulled back in" and Bobby calling it quits. I don't know that Hunter will be able to let it go so easily. Mae starting to walk away and stopping... said under my breath, "forgot your gun" and then she pulled it out. I often wonder if my husband secretly wishes he could watch these alone first. :-) Ax Mac was absolutely awesome! From start to finish the man showed up, stood up, and rocked it. Still an eyebrow arch on Fitz. Coulson isn't so much the 'long arm of the law' as he used to be. And Hunter is still hot. ETA: LOVED Bobby in this ep. The whole fingers thing had me looking away a lot, but her popping them out to shit kick Ward was beautiful.

Complete speculation on my part here but I have been thinking a bit on Jon Snow now being head of the wall... that kind of news is going to get out, I am sure. Would Brienne risk going up there to deliver the news about Sansa to him privately? Would Arya hear about Jon as well? Would she choose to do anything? Just questions burrowing around in me ol' noggin...

I hadn't even caught that part of it. Speculation on my part: he knows his harpys are close enough at hand to save him?

Hahaha! Or... "I said, 'No soup for you!'" ;-)

I had the feeling that when Dany went to touch Hizdahr's back, she may have felt something that clued her into him much more. She seem to want to start pushing him forward up until the moment of her touching his back shoulder area. I liked the turn Jon took this episode... doing what he knows is the right thing regardless of what would make people happy. And the Master's interruption to DO IT even before Jon could state his case was pretty cool. How much did I skeeve with Ramsay and Poppa? Effing a... two peas in one sick-assed pod. Speaking of Pod, the whole Brienne/Pod thing is dragging for me. Yeah, glad she established herself - without fear of retribution - that she's a Stark loyal and all, but damn... a waste of talents right about now. Can't say as I missed Lannisterville one bit. I, too, thought it was the end of the episode with Tyrion going black in the water, but was still feeling First World Slighted when the credits did roll. There's no way Tyrion would know if he was touched. Man was pulled from the waters having passed out. Even *he* wouldn't have a moment to cop a gratuitous yet. Happy with this episode, even though I needed a long hot shower afterward. Eeewwwww!

The kid who keyed the car who was able to identify his companion (whose father felt he was 'ambushed and tricked'... fucktard) - the end of the case alone should tell poppa his golden snowflake is more than guilty. I even rewinded for my hubbins... the end of trial... father looks at snowflake... snowflake looks then cannot keep eye contact with poppa after guilty verdict is declared... Dad? Your effing kid DID IT!! Keyed the dude's CAR. Face up and quit covering for your soon to be convict!!

Exactly. I really think he's either Ned's newphew by Lyanna and Robert or at least he's Robert's son, not Ned's. The whole thing about 20 bastard children (and for some reason I recall hearing 30, so I will have to go and rewatch that part) - to me - hints at this, and we've already seen one come up to Mel's dull-fuckery. Thank the Onion for the boat and getting him the hell outta there Whole thing just smacks 'protection' by having Ned take him in. And Catelyn not knowing - and throwing years of shade onto the three of them - would have been for Jon's protection. He was going to tell Jon 'about your mother someday' and just never got the chance. Maybe this is where we find out who's really whose.

I do as well. Personally, I am wondering if they've implanted the 'I stitched her back together' into Cal's head and this is another person who's been made to look like Skyemomma - much like May'ette' who was hoping Ward would love her *gag*. They could have gotten all the personal information abotu Skye out of Cal and are now using it for their benefit. I am not buying this storyline and am really suspicious of something larger, more ominous in play. And Lincoln seeing them all together does nothing to keep any secrets. Personally, my bets are on Gordon for being much more than he's portraying himself to be. I think him more the puppet master than on stage himself in this drama.

This episode was pretty 'meh' to me, but it's a starter and I guess we had to get back into a groove somehow To me, Mel asking Jon about his virginity had more to do with my suspicions that Jon's actually Ned's nephew - and Robert's son. Or at least Robert's son. And Mel is looking for royal 'jelly' and knows Jon is a Baratheon. Now, if Stannis finds out, I can see him trying to kill Jon and Jon leading the Wildlings and those who favor him on the wall to victory. Tyrion and Varys - Tyrion and Bron reloaded? I can dig that :-) Agree with those posting they were happy to not see Bran or Reek/Ramsey. And I found Gilly to be incredibly whiny and demanding. Bitch - SHUT UP already! Just give shit TIME. Was I the only one surprised to see the cowardly bald dude (who ran into the stores where Gilly was when the figting was happening on the wall) walking side by side with the dude who is a dick but showed bravery during that same battle (again, my apologies, but names are obviously not my friend this afternoon)? Didn't anyone inform Head Dick that dude ran and hid from his duties to the wall?! Dany is, for me, just getting tiresome. Stupid choices and people dying. And pissed off dragon babies. Seeing the Unsullied go to the brothel to have his head stroked and sung to made me think some of them miss having mothers and are going there for some quiet mom time. Just seemed (outside of her undress and profession) a very sweet moment. Up until the throat slicing. And I am still wondering what happened to Hot Pie's bread for Arya.