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Just adding my little data point to the discussion...I was a kid in the eighties in Oklahoma. Our house was on a cul de sac, and we definitely called it that at the time! I can still hear my Mom hollering after me..."don't leave the cul de sac without telling me first!" (As I ran out the door to play with all the neighborhood kids....)

Here's the E! article: http://www.eonline.com/news/856936/jenelle-evans-reaches-custody-battle-agreement-over-son-jace-i-m-happy-but-devastated In the article Jenelle says she will have Jace on "weekends, holidays, and during the summer," but I'm reading other places (no cites, sorry) that it's only every other weekend, some holidays, and two weeks in the summer. So typical Jenelle twisting things in her favor. It's crazy how relieved I am at this outcome. So happy for Jace. I wouldn't care if Jenelle had transformed into June Cleaver herself, it's way too late to uproot him from the only home and parent he's ever known. It would be cruel and cause enormous damage.

Wasn't sure whether to put this here or in Matt's thread, so doing both. The alleged proof of Matt's cheating has been posted. (No idea if legit but I admit they ring real to me.)

The rest of the supposed cheating texts from Matt have been released:

Proceeds to devote ten pages to Farrah and her family.

More from Matt's book (some overlaps with what was quoted upthread): (My favorite is line two...he didn't even know Teen Mom was still filming, you guys! His love was pure!)

Eagle-eyed poster over on Reddit got a screengrab of UBT smoking something that sure looks a hell of a lot like a joint. (Keep in mind Jace was still in their room at this point, and Jenelle was pregnant). https://m.imgur.com/gallery/ROZDl (sorry, can't get image to upload)

Who the fuck does Jenelle think she is? She really thinks she can control whether MTV films with Barb or not? Fuck you, Jenelle. And Barb, I'm still on your side, I don't think for a second you're after the money, but you're on my shit list, too. How dare you put Jace in the middle of that? How dare you make him feel guilty for what happened? Grow up, Barb, for Christ's sake!

I have zero problem with Barb kicking Jenelle out for her transgressions...Barb's house, Barb's rules. But there's a world of difference between (1) calmly but firmly stating, "You knew the rules, you violated them, you may no longer live here. I've taken the liberty of packing your things, they're on the front porch," and (2) Screaming "Have fun with ya booooyfrieeeend!" in the child's face while throwing their belongings on the front lawn. Similarly, confronting Jenelle about the popcorn thing in front of Jace was not cool. I'm on Barb's side...she's trying, she has a heart and god knows Jace needs her. And I think most of this is that she just doesn't know any better. But she needs therapy, and she needs to educate herself. For Jace's sake if not her own.

I noticed that, too. If you watch closely, at one point, he even smiles a little at whoever he's watching...like they gave him a reassuring "yes, here she goes again but it's going to be okay" smile and he responded to that, briefly. It's kind of hard to see because the shot is focused on Jenelle so you only see him in profile, but I swear it's there. eta: the smile is at about 1:25 in the clip.

God, that clip...just... What a heinous bitch.

But if she filed for divorce before he even left, can we really call it cheating?

I like to think the judge (and maybe the lawyers, too) watch this show, and are conspiring to delay, delay, delay until Jace reaches the age where he gets to decide where he wants to live (it's age 12 in my state). "Oh, no...we can't have the hearing tomorrow...I have to...get my hair done! Yeah, that's it. Guess we'll have to reschedule again for six months from now." They know that this, along with with Jenelle's own periods of disinterest in the matter, might just get Jace across the finish line. (Or at least that's how it goes in my imagination, ha!) Re: Aubrey and the carrot cake...I loved how Chelsea was careful to mention on camera that "it's your favorite!" Like she was worried she'd get beat up online for being so mean as to force her kid to eat carrot cake on her birthday.

Very possible I missed this earlier in the thread...but rumors are circling that Kail is pregnant again.

I think this is part of it, but I also have a (completely unfounded and unresearched) theory that something about pregnancy hormones takes Jenelle down a notch. Wasn't she unusually calm and not-psycho when she was pregnant with Kaiser, too? Also might be why she keeps getting knocked-up...it makes her feel good and "normal." So as those hormones slowly ease out of her body now that she's had the baby...watch out.