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This. I have watched every episode of every season since about Season 10, I couldn't tell you who won last year, never mind S25. Of the three he named, I vaguely remember Denise, and would have bet money she didn't win.

I'm not sure what type of lawyer Katurah is, but I would never want her representing me. Imagine being charged with a crime and in her final summation, your lawyer senses the jury is leaning the other way, so she suddenly decides to go with the flow and announces that she thinks you should be convicted.

edith? Yes. We spent a few pages talking about her beautiful hair, but I don't think she got any screen time other than background. @dleighg I also have grey hair. I dye mine but you do you. Why would you care what I think? We don't even know each other. My personal feeling is that grey hair ages people. As do wrinkles and sagging. Some people like to colour their hair or use cosmetic solutions to minimize wrinkles. It's not 'expected,' it's a choice. One everyone is free to make, and everyone is free to have an opinion on.

I could be wrong but I'm sure he did tell Drew?

How do you know unless you try? Well, you don't. So, I tried. Having never watched a Bachelor/Bachelorette/Bachelor in Paradise show, not knowing anyone who did, not caring about how they worked or who won, I was sucked in by the old guy. Because I'm old too. I watched, and saw a handsome, older man who seemed friendly and excited and kind of overwhelmed by the attention. I saw a lot of stunning older women who weren't afraid to show they could still be sexy and fun and would be a catch for anyone. I also saw women who, while looking better than me, were not really anyone I would think would turn anyone's head. Imagine my surprise when the one I automatically disliked because of her resemblance to the Kardashian mother, turned out to be the nicest, sweetest, most fun one there. Also, one woman who had stunning long, grey hair (and I'm not fan of grey hair, long or short) and a natural beauty she was clearly comfortable with, alongside women who couldn't move their face because of the botox and fillers. It started going downhill when I noticed women at the rose ceremony who had never been on camera before, not being offered a rose. I would like to think Gerry met up with them, but there was no chemistry. Surprising to me though that we didn't see any of that. It continued downhill with the manufactured drama between Kathy and Theresa, someone with bad lipstick and no sense of how to read a room, or shut her mouth when it was clear she was setting people off. I also didn't like Leslie, who moaned every week about whether or not Gerry looked at her or talked to her or looked at or talked to anyone else. I was so disappointed when the two women I found least appealing, were chosen to be the two finalists. I stopped watching once Garry went back to Leslie's room. It was clear at that point that he had picked Theresa, and I wasn't interested in Leslie's caterwauling or Theresa's smugness. Well, now I know. I won't watch the wedding, or read about it online. I also won't watch a Golden Bachelorette, or any version of this show going forward. After all that, I can say that I enjoyed every minute of coming to this board and reading everyone's comments. It was much more enjoyable than watching the show. So, thanks for that.

Because Dee calls all the shots, so much so that she can now announce that Austin is her #1, and still have people vote the way she wants.

What makes you think she got the job over more qualified people? Others may have had more education or trading experience, but if she's making more money on her trades than they are on theirs, they're not more qualified. She has all the certifications required for the position.

Maybe you'll get the perfect pair for Christmas and can save them for the big event. I wonder if they sell $60,000 pjs?

OMG, Faith, what an Eeyore. She spent the whole season obsessing over Gerry talking or not talking to her or looking at her, and now she keeps moaning about Gerry 'not being the same.' (I think it's because he's chosen Theresa.)

Granted, I am not afraid of water, nor did I ever cut off contact with my mother, but this comment makes no sense to me. So, she got a letter, then the next day, everything appeared to be fine but she suddenly thought to herself, 'oh yeah, I got a letter from my mother yesterday. I'm afraid of water now!?' OK, this appears to make more sense to me. I thought everyone was swimming to a boat but Jeff offered to have the boat come over to Katurah, and in the pan-out shot, the boat was nowhere to be seen! Perhaps it's because there are fewer players now, and Reba clearly has control, which nobody appears to want to break up, but 90 minutes is starting to seem like too long per episode.

Too bad you didn't work in Canada. Two retired teaches here could have bought mansions in both places, as well as an airplane to travel between the two (exaggerating, but not by much.)

I think he had sex (or some serious petting) with Leslie but probably not with Theresa. No particular reason for thinking that other than that seemed to be what they were alluding to (we were awake really late, it was a wonderful night, etc) Agreed. Ugh. Oh, she's into Gerry. I think every sentence out of her mouth had the words 'I love you' in it (as did Theresa's.) Her gushing about how wonderful their night together was, the sex jokes, her sad staring off into the distance clip while he was with Theresa. It's a continuation of the person she was during the season where she fretted constantly about whether Gerry would look at/talk to her or who he was looking at/talking to when he wasn't with her.

When Theresa said, 'I love you,' and Garry replied, 'You know how I feel about you,' I thought that was the 'tell' that he had chosen Leslie. Then he got into the blah blah blah about their conversation the night before and it seemed they had made some deep connection. I think little Garry wants Leslie but big Garry is realizing that Theresa is probably a better match if he's looking for 'til death do them part.

Is she that beautiful though? I can't get past the frozen face and the lip licking (which are probably related.) Not saying she wasn't pretty at one time, but there is nothing there today that I see that would cause me to say she was beautiful, and I can't believe there are that many non-Hollywood men who would think so either, given the amount of work.

I don't disagree about Theresa but given Leslie's behaviour during the season (every week we would have to listen to her fret about Garry not talking to her, or Garry not looking at her, or Garry not spending time with her or Garry being interested in someone else, or Garry not giving her a rose) I think she would definitely make Garry the centre of her world, maybe to the point where he feels suffocated and wants out.

I FF through it and couldn't believe how long it lasted. I noticed 2 women at the WTA, sitting on either side of the Indian woman. One in a black dress, one wearing lavender. I have no memory of them from the show, nor did they get any direct camera views or opportunities to speak. I'm sure it would be devastating enough to be eliminated early, but I'd be pissed it I bought another dress, had another set of hair extensions/botox injections and the show couldn't even be bothered to give me a 5-second clip.

As someone prone to coldsores and sun blisters (dealing with one right now) it looked to me like Dee had a couple of blisters on her lips. I agree with your characterization of her as bitchy. She seems to get something in her head and there is no dissuading her from it, like imagining Sifu had an idol. Where did she get that idea? Who knows, but woe betide anyone trying to change her mind. And as someone said earlier, she seems to think that since she won immunity, everyone has to listen to her.

I suspect many like me (65) migrated from TWOP and follow several forums, but I wouldn't watch regular Bachelor with a gun to my head. I decided to check out the Golden franchise because it's my demographic and am enjoying it. I still won't be checking out the regular show though.

First of all, when I saw the 3 finalists again, I was once again reminded how these women (who all look better than I do) are so underwhelming. So many more-beautiful women have already gone home. I was also really put off. Gerry told 2 women he loved them, and told 3 families that he loved their mother/grandmother/sister and might marry them. Two families are going to feel like they have been lied to, and are all going to be hurt and humiliated and have to deal with their heartbroken family member who everyone thought had finally found love again. This is going to be a lot more devastating than a 30-year old from regular Bachelor who will go out to the club this Friday and meet someone else.

If I had to spend an extended period of time with Kendra, Bruce and Sifu and their ridiculous mugging, I'd quit too. As for J's ouster, it was unanimous. We saw her bad strategy by taking the blame for the Sifu vote, which was not hers, and she pissed off Austin over the sandwich, which he made sure everyone knew, thus outing her amulet. Plus her supposed alliance-mates Dee and (blonde lady whose name I don't know) quite eagerly floated her name. Sometimes you're in the wrong place at the wrong time, and sometimes you're an easy vote because people don't like or trust you.

'If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy.' Red Green. Personally, as long as he's not a troll, I'll take handy over handsome (or financially well-off) every time. A rich boyfriend is not going to pay for your plumber, but your handy boyfriend can fix the leak so you don't need to call a plumber.

And Jeff was thoroughly disgusted by them, unlike this season where he pretends they were voted out. Sounds like he's having some production meetings to make sure it doesn't happen again, but he was pretty easy the quitters.

I originally read this as, 'She can't anymore.' RIP Joan.

Leslie is the pathetic one who can't focus on anything but her love for Gerry and her nervousness and upset when he talks to anyone else. She's whiny and I don't like her. Faith at least seems like she can hold it together when Gerry isn't with her. Amen. Blech.

Imagine if your name was Karen..................... I am not a fan of Theresa or her awful lipstick and I cannot tell Faith and Leslie apart. I think one rode a motorcycle and the other one frets every week during the rose ceremony, but am willing to admit these could be the same person. I really liked Sandra last week (she is stunning for 75!) and if she and her daughter are both ok with her missing the wedding, then I have no opinion, but I did find it rather ridiculous that she ate the ice cream if she knew she was going to get sick. I'm sure they could have come up with something else for her. I also thought it was hilarious that when I Googled to see the contestants' names, I picked the first site to come up (Cosmopolitan, which I haven't read for 25 years) and the 'fun fact' about Susan is that she dreams of having lunch with Kris Jenner. I'm guessing we're not the first ones to notice the resemblance.