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  1. On 12/18/2021 at 2:56 PM, Danny Franks said:

    Lots. Forgive the brief book talk, but Robert Jordan wrote the first book as a very overt LOTR 'homage', which is what most fantasy authors in the 1980s were doing. But this isn't a one book series, it's a fourteen book series.

    Indeed. Terry Brooks's 1977 The Sword of Shannara followed LOTR very closely, too, but the Shannara series developed its distinct flavor.

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  2. On 12/17/2021 at 10:38 PM, Zonk said:

    So Rand's hair colour was important afterall. I assume in the books he stands out quite clearly with him looking different from all the other people in the village. That kinda loses its impact when you have people of almost every ethnicity living there. I get why they did it for the show and I'm not sure I would have done it different, but it presents a few problems.

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    The skin tone of the Emond's Field folk wasn't really specified in the books, although in one scene an Aes Sedai said that Rand had fairer skin than others from the Two Rivers. The art always depicted them as white, but the covers also have notable inaccuracies compared to the text description of things. It *was* specified in the text that they were all brunets except Rand, which is still the case here.

     

  3. On 2/7/2024 at 6:31 PM, blackwing said:

    I truly can't stand all the angst about the dad not liking him.  For all that the dad hated him, Frederick still inherited the title.  From this episode 4 we learned that Oliver died before Susan.  If Oliver hated Frederick that much, couldn't he have sent a deathbed letter to the newspapers informing them that Frederick is not his son and therefore ineligible to inherit the title?

    Scandal. Even if Oliver were dead, it being publicly known his mother had an affair could only be embarrassing for James and might result in him being excluded from social circles, and Oliver wouldn't want that. He probably told James on his deathbed, though, since Clara sensed he knows more than he's saying. Maybe he wanted James to disinherit Frederick and James didn't go along with it. In which case, we'll hear about it in due time.

    On 2/6/2024 at 2:58 PM, blackwing said:

    So why then does he frequent a public bathhouse when he is a public figure in the community?

    It seemed like it was the first time Fletcher had seen him there.

    On 2/9/2024 at 3:21 PM, chitowngirl said:

    No new episode this Sunday, 2/11

    Thanks for letting us know!

  4. On 1/22/2024 at 10:10 AM, taanja said:

    Eliza was weirdly chill. Oh you're awake William. Cool. Gotta go!

    ? Eliza didn't want to go anywhere. She was still adjusting William's pillow when the episode faded out.

    On 1/23/2024 at 9:11 AM, Orcinus orca said:

    Matt Olsen and Laura Marcus per IMDB.

    And this is Matt Olsen's first acting role. Laura Marcus has had more, but not all that many. Her longest-running was 13 episodes of Bad Education.

    On 1/22/2024 at 11:35 AM, libgirl2 said:

    I also like that he took William under his wing and was going to help him be a cop.

    I'm not sure what you mean here. We already knew Henry had done that.

    On 1/22/2024 at 1:17 PM, pezgirl7 said:

    Her lack of social graces definitely matched up though! Although I attribute that to the script.

    Both of them must have studied the adult actors' performances.

    On 1/22/2024 at 10:27 PM, Magnumfangirl said:

    Anyway, I agree that the young actor playing William had the voice and accent down perfect, but I wonder if Scots agree with us?  

    I'm half Scottish, and yes. His voice sounded exactly like Stuart Martin's at times. My mother thought so, too, and she's married to a Scotsman.

    On 1/23/2024 at 9:47 AM, chaifan said:

     Second, they could have just as easily had William try to kiss her at the party, or in the coach, or something like that, and Eliza slaps him then.  Then, later at home, she could initiate a kiss, giving them the "female empowerment" that they so wanted to show.  Would that have really been all that hard?

    That would have worked. I guess they didn't think of it.

    On 1/22/2024 at 4:32 PM, tennisgurl said:

    Will Fitzroy finish his long depressing Russian novel?!

    They didn't say it was depressing, although with the Russians it's a good bet. Watching Young William, I was struck by how different he was from the young man he would eventually take under his wing.

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  5. On 12/23/2021 at 7:41 AM, Humbugged said:

    Named after King Arthur's mother Igraine and grandmother of Gawain and Morded

    Yes, several characters and places have Arthurian-derived names:

    Moiraine Damodred = Morgan/Morgana

    al'Lan Mandragoran = Lancelot

    Nynaeve al'Meara = Nivaine/Nimue

    Egwene al'Vere = Guinevere

    Elayne Trakand = Elaine

    Thom Merrilin = Merlin

    Morgase Trakand = Morgause

    Gawyn Trakand = Gawain

    Spoiler

    Galad Trakand = Galahad (we know from casting spoilers that Elayne's brother Galad will be in Season 3, but unlike her other brother Gawyn he hasn't been mentioned in dialogue yet)

    Artur Paendrag Tanreall, known as Artur Hawkwing = Arthur Pendragon

    Tar Avalon = Avalon

    Caemlyn = Camlann

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  6. 8 hours ago, Brn2bwild said:

    I thought I recalled that Dad Trenchard from the first series was a "Sir."  That could have led to his receiving an upgrade to Baron or Viscount as his wealth grew due to Belgravia's success.

    And the Bellasises could have pulled strings because they wanted their in-laws to be titled.

    8 hours ago, Brn2bwild said:

    The second episode was a missed opportunity.  It moved too slowly and without any interesting stakes.  I still have no idea who Clara is, which I'm guessing is intentional and a huge secret will come out, but in the meantime, she's dull to watch.

    Possible, but I wouldn't bet on her not being exactly who she seems. Fortunately, I don't find her dull.

  7. 1 hour ago, norcalgal said:

    Yes indeed. In the first series, Trenchard Sr. was a mere merchant and that background was referenced a few times.

    Frederick mentioned that background in the first episode as well.

    The Marquise: Commerce and the British aristocrat, I thought they did not mix. Frederick: My family has always believed in hard work. Once, it was a necessity and now it is a choice.

    (later) Frederick: Do you have any idea how hard I've had to work to earn my place? To succeed in the face of the sneers, and the snide remarks, "the merchant", "the tradesman's grandson made good"

    Obvious explanation is that the elder James was given a title before he died.

    On 1/18/2024 at 9:58 PM, Brn2bwild said:

    It's sad that after the generally positive note Oliver's storyline ended on in the original series, they turned him into an abuser in this one. 

    I agree, it's too easy.

    3 hours ago, blackwing said:

    Truly confused by the French lady and her servant (?) who she seems to be sleeping with.  I think she is Frederick's prospective business partner.

    Yes. The previous episode established that the Marquise made lots of money through investments and that Frederick wanted to go into business with her.

    On 1/18/2024 at 10:32 PM, norcalgal said:

    I too would love this series to show or at least mention Charles Pope and what’s going on with him and his family. After all, as far as Charles knows, he and Frederick are first cousins.

    And biologically, they're second cousins.

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  8. On 4/10/2023 at 6:35 PM, blackwing said:

    Earnest but penniless young man trying to make his way into the world.  A titled gentleman who becomes his adversary.  A forbidden romance between Main Guy and Adversary's sister. 

    Well, those didn't happen at least.

  9. On 1/14/2024 at 11:14 PM, norcalgal said:

    The other thing I’m curious about is who is the younger brother’s father?!  The first series established that Oliver was infertile.  So did his wife have another affair that resulted in the younger brother, or did Oliver’s infertility miraculously cure itself!

    Unless Susan managed to fool him with the second pregnancy, it seems Oliver just had a low sperm count, like shelen said. So after more than eleven years, he finally conceived, and the miraculousness of it made him dote on James all the more. And James's birth likely was what spelled the end for any chance Oliver was going to treat Frederick well, now that he had a biological son to compare him to and whom he would wish were his heir instead of Frederick.

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  10. On 1/2/2024 at 11:51 PM, areca said:

    I never actually found the Seanchan to be evil per se.  They were likely as close to the Old World Order as possible, and they had pretty strict codes and directives that traced all the way back to the voice of authority.  Like, for real and without doubt.  Renna kind of hit on it in the last episode, they were, ultimately, fighting for the most noble cause of the Light.

    They have slaves. They break women's wills to make slaves of them. They kill people to take their land. That makes them an evil empire no matter what else they do and whatever delusions they have about being the good guys. Slave ownership and genocide in America were evil, too. A world where slavery continued forever would be just as unthinkable as one ruled by the Dark One.

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  11. 8 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:

    The oats allow you to use the power against 'enemy' channelers,

    6 hours ago, Which Tyler said:

    That's certainly not how I interpreted the oaths. If they do, then all is fair.

    They do not, unless in last defense of your own life, that of your Warder, or that of another Aes Sedai. The exception is for Shadowspawn and Darkfriends, not channelers as a whole.

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  12. 19 hours ago, Roseanna said:

    You said it yourself: Bertha could tell to Turner's husband - and it would be hurt Turner much more. 

    But at that time a husband's adultery was common and did *not* shame a wife. Although a wife might be angry, she would usually forgive her husband.

    Which, again, she would never do. Bertha is too proud; she would rather die than let an outsider know her husband betrayed her.

    It would absolutely shame them to have someone else know it happened. It happening clandestinely when no one can prove it may be common, but having an affair aired would most certainly shame the wife. The implication is that she isn't enough to sexually satisfy her husband. It getting out wouldn't socially embarrass the husband doing the cheating, but it would embarrass the wife being cheated on.

    You're also not taking into account the nature of the Russells' marriage. If George had committed adultery, it would cause scars in Bertha and George's relationship that would take a long time to fully heal, if ever. They married for love and she trusts him completely. Tainting that would be the point.

    20 hours ago, AntFTW said:

    Just so I understand, you think Turner would do that solely to hurt Bertha?

    Yes, absolutely. What she doesn't like most of all is Bertha feeling superior to her.

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  13. 5 hours ago, Roseanna said:

     

    @Noneofyourbusiness But she had no business to come to his room at all.

    So? It's not like Turner would care if she herself looks bad to Bertha. She knows that ship has already sailed and regards her as an enemy.

    5 hours ago, Roseanna said:

    No, although that would anger Bertha, it would also shame Turner herself.

    No, it wouldn't. Only if Bertha repeated it to Turner's husband or anyone else, which Bertha would never do because her husband having had an affair would shame Bertha herself. Otherwise, seducing Bertha's husband is something to gloat about and throw in her face. Making out to Bertha that Turner and George slept together, or that he was tempted by her advances and that's why he kept her on until Bertha fired her, only makes Bertha lose faith in George and doesn't hurt Turner.

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  14. On 11/9/2023 at 12:14 PM, AntFTW said:

    I think the children, as far as we've seen, don't care as much as their parents about social status.

    If they become pariahs, they may find they care more than they thought.

    12 hours ago, AntFTW said:

    I highly doubt that Turner will tell her or even hint it. I don’t see how there is any upside for Turner if she told or even hinted at what she did in the Russells’ house.

    The only way that story would make George look bad is if Turner lies or leaves out salient facts about George showing no interest and throwing her out of his room.

    6 hours ago, norcalgal said:

    In S1, didn’t the husbands tell their wives to make nice with Bertha because George could ruin them financially?

    Basically. Anne Morris and Aurora Fane were resistant even after their husbands told them that. Until George did nearly ruin Charles Fane but relented on the condition that Aurora would work to get Bertha accepted in society.

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  15. On 11/7/2023 at 2:45 PM, Sarah 103 said:

    They are both single and more than enough time has passed for Ada to remarry without anyone commenting about it's too soon after her husband died.

    As Ada mentioned in the previous episode, she's never been married. Last season, Agnes said that Ada was "allowed the tranquil life of a spinster" while she was not, as she had to marry Mr Van Rhijn to get herself and Ada out of poverty after their brother (Marian's father) blew their family fortune.

    On 11/8/2023 at 12:53 AM, Camera One said:

    Now that we know Larry is so easy, maybe Turner bedded him too.

    I got the impression he lost his virginity. Even if not, he and Susan Blane appear to have genuine feelings for each other.

    On 11/8/2023 at 4:17 PM, Affogato said:

    I am pretty sure, with the second setup for Oscar (a woman with a paid companion) that basically everyone knows Oscar is gay. I also think that George's emphasis on 'marriage of convenience' and 'you can do better' was telling.

    It might turn out her paid companion is in fact her lover, come to think of it.

    On 11/9/2023 at 9:39 AM, AntFTW said:

    He told the guy he’s sleeping with (I forgot his name)

    John Adams IV, a fictional great-grandson of John Quincy Adams.

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  16. On 11/5/2023 at 10:09 PM, Straycat80 said:

    Oscar took losing Gladys well. I’ll bet he goes after the new young lady (name?) he met at the party.

    Maud Beaton.

    On 11/5/2023 at 10:15 PM, AntFTW said:

    OMG! Turner is now a rich man's wife.

    I had a feeling a couple weeks ago that if she returned this season, that would be how.

    On 11/5/2023 at 10:41 PM, Jodithgrace said:

    Part of me feels bad for Oscar in his quest for a wife. But mostly I don’t want him to succeed because it’s a terribly unfair life for a wife married to a closeted gay man.

    Well, if she knew he was gay and was cool with being the beard it would be one thing. Many of these people aren't expecting to marry for love anyway, and Oscar would allow her a great deal of freedom. He'd have to come clean to her, though.

    On 11/5/2023 at 10:41 PM, Jodithgrace said:

    I kept thinking that the feckless Mr. Morgan would turn out to be J.P. Morgan, but old JP would already be a big shot by this period,  and not  a drunken youth. Right? Hmmm.  Have to Google. Ok…there was a JPMorgan Jr, but everyone would have known who he was. 

    This one is named Edward Morgan, so no.

    On 11/6/2023 at 12:21 AM, Camera One said:

    If Bertha is fundraising and recruiting people for boxes at the new opera house, will she be shunned by old money again? 

    Well, there are some old money people involved in the new opera house already and she's trying to convert more of them.

    On 11/6/2023 at 12:21 AM, Camera One said:

    Mr. Russell is promising his daughter to back her if she falls in love.  Is she no longer in love with that guy from last season?

    Archie Baldwin. Given that he called it off between them on George's instructions, no.

    On 11/6/2023 at 7:48 AM, Roseanna said:

    Does anyone know if it was really true in the US in the 1880 that Mrs Russell had long to fight for acceptance by "old money" because her husband was "new money" and a lady is afraid that her father's occupationa as Mr Russell's valet will be  revealed but Turner who was Mrs Russell's maid not long ago will be accepted straightaway after she married an "old money" man?

    In the first season Turner made an offer to Mr Russell to become his mistress, so why wouldn't she be content with the same postion with the "old money" man but succeeded to marry him? Wasn't she working in his household but met him in the circumstances where he didn't know her background? Why did he marry her so suddenly - even if they had a relationship and she became pregnant, that's not the reason enough for an upper class man to marry a lower class woman.

     

    We have yet to see how accepted Turner is.

    Mr Winterton wasn't married, so Turner didn't have to just be his mistress.

    We haven't seen yet. But she probably managed to get him infatuated enough with her to marry her by flattering him.

    This reminds me, Turner's first name was never given last season. I should hope it will be now.

    On 11/6/2023 at 1:24 PM, Sarah 103 said:

    Mrs. Blaine would be a pathetic old woman chasing after a younger man trying to recapture her lost youth.

    Girl ain't remotely old.

    On 11/6/2023 at 4:04 PM, iMonrey said:

    I've totally forgotten what the valet's storyline is. Why is it a secret he has a daughter, and what was the backstory of him becoming a valet?

    We don't know the backstory of Watson becoming a valet yet. Just that his wife divorced him and took their daughter, and that he fell on hard times. Unclear in which order. He hasn't seen his daughter in many years. He was hanging around her home last season, and she didn't recognize him yet then.

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  17. On 11/1/2023 at 9:05 AM, Roseanna said:

    Agnes wants Marian to marry a man from an "old money" family, but so far she hasn't done anything to help her to find one. Why didn't she arrange parties or at least ask Oscar to bring eligible men to her house?

    She did tell Oscar in Season 1 that he should bring eligible men to the house for Marian to meet, and he brought Larry, whom she disapproved of. Perhaps she abandoned that avenue after that? But that doesn't explain not arranging parties.

    On 11/1/2023 at 1:12 PM, Sarah 103 said:

    I still want scenes of just the younger generation interacting with each other. I want to see the dynamic is when you have Marion, Oscar, Gladys and Larry in a room together, like at a party or some event. 

    Seconded! That, and Larry was criminally underused last season.

    On 11/1/2023 at 3:26 PM, peeayebee said:

    As much as I liked the scenes in this ep re Peggy and the whole baby story, I'm left wondering what the point was. I still wonder if Fellowes had something else in mind last season but changed it for whatever reason. My only guess for the importance of it going forward is to see what happens betw Peggy's mother and father. I feel like Peggy's story (professional and perhaps romantic) will basically be separate from her parents, while we'll see how (if?) her parents repair their marriage.

    I basically feel the same. But I like the "French" chef and the English butler -- I don't really know anyone's names yet. And although the character Armstrong is unlikable, Debra Monk is always watchable.

    I'm afraid Fellowes is probably unlikely to show Dorothy and Arthur when Peggy's not there. They are only guest starring, after all.

    Borden and Bannister.

  18. 14 hours ago, Roseanna said:

    Peggy seemed extremely selfish by saying that she would have taken her son from her good foster parents - she put her own feelings before what was best for her child. By separating him from the only parents had had known she would have caused him a severe trauma. It's again the same mistake Edith did - and not once but twice - in Downton Abbey.

    She was being honest about how she felt, which is how any parent who had their child stolen from them in the first place would feel, for good or ill. "Extremely selfish" sounds extremely judgemental for a realistic human emotion. I don't even have children and I know that's how I would feel under those circumstances (if he were still that age, at least) and I'm inclined to think anyone who claimed otherwise would be lying to themself. Edith at least had agreed to give her child up, even though it was against her better judgement, so she wasn't in the same circumstances as Peggy.

    As for trauma, he was only three when he died, and they were talking about what would have happened if he had been taken back even earlier than that. He'd soon have forgotten them.

    22 hours ago, RachelKM said:

    But this show is all but paint by numbers when it comes to romance tropes.

    Indeed; it's obvious there'll be something between Larry and the young widow he's going to do an architecture job for. I was afraid there would be something between Peggy and the also conveniently widowed Mr Spring, which would be inadvisable with the wounds so raw, but it seems not.

    12 hours ago, amarante said:

    He was proposing essentially a marriage of convenience where she would be his beard and she would be free to do exactly what she wanted which would have included affairs.

    If he were being honest, that's how he would have presented it to her, but instead he claimed that he loved her and that that was why he wouldn't mind being pecked by Gladys specifically. That would not encourage her to have affairs. He may not actually care if she did, but from what he said, he would be the one she would expect to be sharing affections with.

    In real life, Oscar's offer would be one I might advise her to take lest she regret it later, but since this is a drama, there might well be a better suitor waiting for her who's rich, loving and not controlling. Though he's likely to be coming only at the end, after she's introduced to a less nice aristocrat.

    10 hours ago, Enigma X said:

    The reason I asked is because in season one I thought they said he was in his late 20s, and I am like the hell he is. But maybe I remembered wrong.

    Oscar is supposed to be young enough that George called him a "young jackanape", despite his actor being three years older than George's.

    8 hours ago, Sarah 103 said:

    Peggy is one of the most interesting characters and I'm glad they finished that part of her story so they can give her something more interesting to do. I want to see more of Peggy at the newspaper and her relationship with the editor.

    So far, Peggy's storyline and to a lesser extent George's are the only ones about issues with importance beyond social climbing.

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  19. 53 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    But just as someone genre-savvy, I was originally confused into thinking that Ishie was THE Dark One at the end of S1 during that confrontation.

    What Doctor Atomic said. And Ishy himself cultivated that confusion to keep the Trollocs motivated over the centuries that the Dark One was sealed.

    55 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:

    I haven't read the books or a summary of the overall plot. From the statements of friends who have, there have been enough departures from the books already that book reading seems like it might lead to more disappointment than enhancement.

    I read the books and I enjoy the show for what it is. I find that usually with any TV adaptation (ex. this show, The Shannara Chronicles, House of the Dragon, His Dark Materials, Outlander) there will actually be at least a few things it did that I like better about it than the original even if I would choose the original at the end of the day if I had to.

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  20. 1 hour ago, chaifan said:

    First, there's never any promise of a next season, so it's quite possible this battle is the last we'd see of this series.

    The show was renewed for Season 3 before this season aired (and for Season 2 before the first one aired). They plan to have eight seasons. They may not reach that far, but there was definitely going to be a third.

    1 hour ago, chaifan said:

    Valid question, and not rude at all.

    I'm glad you're not offended.

    1 hour ago, chaifan said:

    During Season 1, if I hadn't been reading this forum, I would have been hopelessly lost and probably dropped the show after 2 episodes.  I like Rosamund Pike, and I loved the look/feel of the show, so I stuck through.  I read several comments in other forums after season 1 that most non-book readers also had problems following the plot & characters (so so so many characters), so I was glad to know it wasn't just me.  This season, I figured I'd just roll with it, but still got lost several times.  Maybe I just need to give this show up.

    A lot of these things *are* mentioned in the show but are easier for book readers to put in context because the books spent more time going from one point to the next. I hope you don't give the show up! The Wheel of Time is a worthwhile story, and if you have trouble following the show, the forum here (even including the bookwalker thread) will be happy to help.

    32 minutes ago, DoctorAtomic said:

    However, keep in mind, the Aes Sedai are the only people who can channel, and there's a lot of them.

    Well, the only *organization* that can channel. That we've seen so far. As opposed to Seanchan damane, rogue male channelers, and various women who can channel but don't realize they can or haven't or don't want to train with the Aes Sedai (or are burned at the stake by Whitecloaks before they can get to that point), frequently including village Wisdoms.

    Spoiler

    Of course, we will be seeing Aiel Wise Ones and Sea Folk Windfinders next season, who are also organizations, if not quite as organized as the Aes Sedai.

     

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  21. 12 hours ago, chaifan said:

    Thanks, everyone for the clarification.  OK, so this was a battle, not the Final Battle.  That helps, a lot.

    I don't want to seem rude, but how could it have been if the show isn't over yet? And you'd expect the Dark One to present at the Final Battle, armies of Trollocs and Fades, etc.

    This battle was primarily against the Seanchan, who while an evil empire mostly aren't Darkfriends and those that are Darkfriends need to keep it secret like they do in the Westlands.

  22. On 10/21/2023 at 11:00 AM, chaifan said:

    I also don't understand why the other Ais Sedai in the tower just didn't open up other portals to where Rand and Moraine were and help in the fight.

    7 hours ago, quarks said:

    3. Lanfear and Ishamael do seem to be able to get around pretty quickly. But the Aes Sedai don't seem to have those same skills.

    Gateways seem to be one of those lost arts from the Age of Wonders that are beyond the knowledge of most modern Aes Sedai. We also don't know how strong in the Power you need to be to make them and how many Aes Sedai would be capable even if it weren't a lost art.

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