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If that had happened - they would've said that. The easiest to find via DNA are those of white European descent (around ~80% of those in America have a third cousin or closer who have taken a DNA test). The numbers on those sites tend to be rather out of date.

So I think i'll just post here - just finished watching this season and this just breezed on by. I think this episode was the funniest of the season - I was laughing so much, especially during the musical. We better get a third season.

The way to have a doctor spend time with you is to be a weird medical case. source: am a medical oddity, had an oncologist spend 20 minutes with me on Friday (outpatient appointment)

Small talk is for any small talk - personally I think it would be relevant there.

Yeah, the "for now" felt unnecessary. The writers know by this point that this is the final season, no need to leave that dangling.

Yup - that visualization was much better than Shaun's Magic Autism Vision that pops up during surgery. That's just pathfinding and thinking through a problem logically. Yeah - he had a meltdown during the COVID episode when the noise of the fluorescent lights overwhelmed him. I'm guessing the writers would say "well he's improved himself even more now!" or something like that Yeah - the "autistic people helping autistic people" was a bit annoying, but at least Kayla Cromer was given some decent material this episode (Or at least the part where she helped Shaun through the sensory overload - since it makes sense she would be able to do that, given the differences in their upbringing. Charlie said in an earlier episode that she had a para during school, versus Shaun who had his... traumatic upbringing). Shaun doesn't interact with other autistics by choice - I think that was established in season 2? That could be a contributing factor to Shaun pretty much instantly rejecting Charlie. As a side note, with the autistics teaching autistics - I had something similar today. I'm in a weekly writing group for young adults with cancer and all of the prompts this month are based on things by autistic individuals, due to autism awareness month. I'm the only autistic in the group - the others in the group have said that my point of view is interesting/helpful, so they can see how an autistic individual processes the prompts vs. their neurotypical selves.

This was a decent episode. I still wish we at least had a 13-16 episode final season - they bit off more than they could chew with the plot. Hey look, another example of why Shaun shouldn't be in this situation - look at how overwhelmed her got. Lim should've put Glassman in charge, he was the perfect candidate - since he cannot operate and he has the years of experience to properly allocate resources (and, well, he's the hospital president). The writers are hot and cold on how they are writing Charlie - they don't even say what her complaint is about, just make a mysterious thing practically bookending the episode. Charlie was written better this episode - but you think someone other than her would've tried to center Shaun in the past? I think it is something that neurotypicals would also know how to do? Especially after knowing Shaun for seven years! So Shaun and Charlie bonded over the meatball surgery in the ER - will they still be copacetic in the next episode, or will it go back to them being iffy? I hope that they try to avoid them butting heads, because more drama between them in the final three episodes would feel...awkward. Also, why did it take so long for the Glassman-Charlie pairing? Glassman is the perfect mentor for her...and apparently it took two sentences from him to get both of work together peacefully? Glassy must be The Autism Whisperer. Also, Leah, by delayed processing of grief it doesn't mean "oh, six hours after the funeral after a busy day is when he will start to express grief" - so don't chalk up him reacting at the end of the episode to that. It can take longer than that depending on the person - sometimes weeks, sometimes months - it all depends on the person (Also, I hate that the first result I get when I google that is the damn puzzle piece organization that Shall Not Be Named).

tbh it sort of seemed like the writers were trying to show that two autistics cannot work together for some reason. It sort of reminds me of her last show (don't jump down my throat, let me finish my sentence!) Everything's Gonna Be Okay, where the goal of the writers (per Lillian Carrier, who played Drea on that show) was to have Kayla Cromer's character say nice things that came out rude...but one this, they just have her say rude things that come out rude. I'll comment more on this in the topic for S7E6, though. I took her rearranging things are her learning kinesthetically.... which she should be doing in the practice lab or w/e it was that was mentioned at some point. She might have learned the things through lectures/text to speech (I know that hen I was in college, if I sat in the same seat for the test that I was in during the lecture, I could pretty much recall the lecture - I couldn't study the notes or the text, I would get too much anxiety). This is another reason why we needed a longer season - they're doing this plot on lightspeed.

good, so others noticed it! I wish that they had hired a decent autism consultant for this season - since I could see this plotline being done somewhat decently with these writers (especially with an autistic actress - she's doing the best she can with the bad material). I just hope that her being listed as a guest star doesn't mean she is going to be kicked out of the hospital. tbh I have learned a bit about social cues from TV - mainly looking at the exaggerated facial expressions some shows use, along with tone of voice (and reactions of characters to certain situations). Since I wasn't diagnosed until I was 20, I didn't have anything like social skills groups (because as we all know, autism goes away when you are 18) - so I learned through examples in the media. Obviously I don't base my responses to things on tropes used in the media, how people express themselves facially and vocally in media is what I sort of learned.

tbh I wish they had gotten a full season - or at least a 13-16 episode season, since 10 episodes just isn't enough for a network drama to do a story without it feeling really rushed. I hope Glassman's response is different from what it would've been for season 1/2 Glassman, now that he and Shaun have had ups and (recent) downs in their relationship. And I hope the complaint is about anything other than Charlie being kicked out of the ER (also, did anyone else notice that Shaun's mask wasn't on tight enough? He was fogging up his glasses)

It depends on the autistic person - sometimes they need to be taught the interaction, sometimes they need to learn the cues. It varies person by person. I don't see some of Charlie's interactions as arguing - I see them as her stating what is going on from her point of view. From teacher's point of view, Shaun should take the time to listen to her (when it is a non-emergency situation, obviously), analyze the situation, and figure out how things can be presented to Charlie (within reason, obviously). I hope that Charlie's complaint isn't based on her actions in the OR because that was one of the times Shaun was actually justified in his actions. I am hoping it is more on his actions towards her in general, such as telling her to not talk to him - when she needs to do that in order to learn. It is always interesting to have med students in the exam room. One time the doctor brought in a gaggle of like... 6-8 people with her? I think they were med students, at least. They were asking me questions during the exam (when I gave them permission to), when it wouldn't interfere with what the doctor was doing. So sometimes med students do pipe up during an exam.

Honestly, it feels like a script left over from before they learned that this was going to be the final season. I remember reading something where someone involved was quoted as saying "I wish we had a full 22 episode season to bring this show to an end, but we're only getting 10." So I am guessing that they didn't write/film at least part of the season with the end in mind - so I wish that they had just removed the death (even if the actor wanted to leave - just write him off as being on a honeymoon and have him come back for a quick Zoom-ing in in the finale if they really needed him). They also should've had the Charlie complaint earlier to make the plot feel like it can actually wrap up without being put into hyperdrive. They should be using this plot to demonstrate that Shaun has actually had growth as an adult, instead they are just showing that he is the same recalcitrant guy we met in the earlier seasons (well, it depends on who is writing the episode). They could even be like "oh look at his inspirational he is, teaching a new Good Doctor With Autism how to doctor. Sure, they have some bumps, but he is learning and being So Inspirational!"

Yup. Charlie was righty kicked out of the ER - she shouldn't have messed with the tray, it's ordered for a reason. tbh I think Charlie is doing better than Shaun would've been if we had seen him in med school - she does seem to be lacking the skill of "don't be disruptive in an emergency in the OR." Since her talking when it wasn't an emergency, sure - Shaun was not giving the med student an opportunity to learn - but Shaun was not also clearly defining what talking over him meant. The two of them were in a feedback loop over their mental definitions of what talking over one another meant.

So, uh, did they just kill Asher off? Since that was a lot of blood. If so, that was a bit out of left field, since it's the final season! When the anti-Semites went away, I was expecting him or the rabbi to get shot, and the next episode dealing with that. I was going to come here and post, "Oh wow, it looks like they must've had the same writer as last episode writing Charlie this time!" until her scene in the OR. That was just ridiculous - and it honestly seems like something Shaun would've done in the first season. Also, uh, is it legal for Glassman to show Shaun the unredacted complaint against him? I didn't see anything blacked out on that piece of paper.

I mean the closet WAS large enough - maybe it had a portal to Narnia the hospital on Grey's Anatomy in it?

Yeah - she just felt like she was masking enough for the workplace (as much as it sucks that she has to mask, most autistics need to mask in a professional environment) while still stimming a bit. I hope that we get her and the hemophobic med student together on a case - since in the first episode with them, we did see him nudge her when she was being inapproprate. Benign only means it isn't going to spread to other parts of the body (and that it doesn't look irregular).

tbh I was wondering where she pulled the rifle out of. They showed her just sitting in the car responding, then they flashed to the car again and she was loading her rifle. Wonder where she was hiding it.

Yup - I bought a medical ID bracelet from Lauren's Hope before traveling at the start of the month! I also carried a sheet on me with my medications, medical conditions, and doctor contact info. Yeah, tumor guy confused me too. I wish that whoever wrote Charlie this week had been writing her since the start - this is great material (comparatively) for Kayla Cromer! This is what I want to see her do on this show! I hope that for the final 6 episodes (assuming she is on it through the end - I did see she was credited as a guest star), we get this version of Charlie! I hope Kayla Cromer gets something good after this that actually respect autism (Or maybe she'll go for a non-autistic role - I was reading Lillian Carrier talking about how some autistic actors are trying to get NT roles to prove that autistic actors don't need to be pigeonholed into only playing autistic characters) I think the writing staff, collectively, just has problems with their mothers. Have any of the characters had genuinely good mothers? I think even Lea's wasn't that good? Obviously being around Shaun's autism cured his hemophobia? I also expected them to leave Steve with Glassman - but it ended up they wanted it to tee up Jordan and Kalu for being together at the end of the series.

So, uh, two three things: 1. They started to write Charlie better this episode - is it that when they have her with Shaun, they want to have an autism fight or whatever? Or is it because she wasn't in the episode much? I did like when she turned around and said "You two like each other!" Her face afterwards was great 2. HOW BIG ARE THE SUPPLY CLOSETS AT THIS HOSPITAL? That was a gigantic supply closet - they probably could've fit at least 1 or 2 patient rooms in there! 3. Hahaha Glassman and Lim's mom should be fun. I was hoping that Glassman would say that Shaun is almost like his son when talking to her, though. I just hope this show doesn't end on a flashforward like New Amsterdam.

Yup - that's exactly what I did when I was going for my education degree. During pre-professional field and student teaching, I found times and places when I could stim and what reasonable accommodations i could come up with (and backups for those accommodations)

I believe it's done *really* good on Netflix.

Agree with you 100% on that first paragraph - the second Shaun said "She's my med student! I handle my med students!" Lim and Glassman should've been like, "No, you are breaking the law by treating her this way." I think that in one of the earlier seasons, they said they had an autistic writer on staff - I looked it up at the time and I believe the writer was only credited with one or two episodes. One of those episodes was the one where he and Carly are going to have sex, but Shaun has issues with it (iirc he gets distracted when he sees she has a tattoo on her chest). From what I remember, that was one of the better episodes autism-wise... but that isn't a big accomplishment for this show. I think their autism consultant is someone from Autism Speaks, so... yeaaaaaaaaah - that shows how much they care.

One thing Charlie has over Shaun - she didn't have a meltdown when Shaun decided to become Dr. Han. She ran away crying like a neurotypical might have and then she shut down in the elevator (like someone on the spectrum might). You think the writers would at least ask Kayla Cromer for input. Or have brought in an autism consultant like Lillian Carrier (Drea on Everything's Gonna Be Okay) seasons ago to be like, "no, that is not realistic. If you want to take some artistic license, play x up." Since they obviously want the character to overstep and cross some lines, but they should be different ones - like how Charlie started asking the patient questions, then Shaun told her that med students don't gather histories. Not crossing lines in the vein of, "are you a top or a bottom?" Everything's Gonna Be Okay. I loved that show - the first season finale had the most realistic depiction of sensory overload ever. Most realistic portrayal of autism I have seen on TV (and it was serendipitous that Josh Thomas was diagnosed with autism!)

God, Shaun is so annoying with him thinking he got no accommodations. He literally had the president of the hospital watching his back. Charlie is pretty much asking the same questions Shaun asked a few years into him being at the hospital. It's better that she's asking it early (if she has to ask them at all), so it'll be corrected earlier. reflexes too slow to drive high five!

This episode was baaaaaaaaaaaad. One of the worst of the series, by far. The shifting camera angles and the nonsense plots. Also, why can shows never make things on screen easy to read? I had no idea what the piece of paper said until it was said out loud that Lopez was 17th on the list.