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  1. I had mixed feelings about Caleb on BB - on one hand, he had some pretty offensive social media posts pre-show and was super creepy and clueless about Amber; on the other hand, he always seemed more child-like than malicious, had some genuinely hilarious moments, and seemed well-liked by everyone. I never really knew how I felt about him. All that to say - the one thing I know about Caleb with 100% certainty is that he tells some taaaallllll tales. A lot of them. Like, always. Not necessarily with any conscious intent to deceive, but more like a five year old telling you that there were THOUSANDS of REAL COWBOYS at his birthday party, and he rode FASTER than all of them and lassoed ALL OF THE COWS. It's possible that some of the details of Caleb's story about almost dying for immunity (and not just reward) and spending five days in ICU and his organs shitting down may not be 100% verifiable. He does tell a good story, though.
  2. That challenge was carnage, and it was terribly irresponsible to let them continue for that long in that heat without taking a few minutes to let them get in the shade and have a little water. I got the sense that Cydney was overheating but not dangerously, and she seemed like maybe she was having a panic attack, and so I can understand the medical team focusing on Caleb while other people worked to keep her calm and to cool her down. Caleb . . that was scary. He seemed really messed up. I am curious about what was the breaking point for the doc calling for the evacuation, though. Did his temp reach a certain number, or is there a time limit for how long it can stay high, or did he start seizing, or what? Just nosy, I guess. I'm willing to give Peter a break on not helping more, because he could have been not doing great himself. And, who knows - in addition to the show rules, he could have a contract with his employer or his malpractice insurer that ties his hands, and there were lots of people helping. The two women were okay, and it seems like nothing was going to get Caleb under control. That disaster of a challenge combined with the assholes Jason and Scot made this a pretty depressing episode.
  3. Closed captioning said "You think shit's settled?" As in, Daryl doesn't think there is any "settling down" in the current situation.
  4. Lulu, run away with Johnny! Your husband has suffered some sort of traumatic brain injury and will never be the same and your mother has lost all perspective. Your child, apparently, has been adopted by whoever the remaining responsible adult left au Wyndemere is. Better yet, have Dante run away and figure out a way to get Jihnny pardoned so I can see him every day. Sonny is so amazing- he de-paralyzed himself!!! God, I hate him so much. What did Olivia say, something about the anger keeping the pain away? I guess that's an upside to the blackout rages.
  5. This show is the funniest thing on tv, hands down. I've professed my undying love for all the flashback montages several times, but Steffy's "oh my god- I'm so surprised and terrified by what just happened" lip-trembling, panting reaction poses have had me in stitches every time she's almost killed Ivy. Liam's airplane bathroom folly was just icing on the cake. Nothing but the hilarity is all that interesting to me right now.
  6. I can't stop my inexplicable love for this ridiculous show, but that may change if it turns in to "Happy's Life is in Danger!" show. Honestly, I'd prefer if the team were rarely in real danger- I enjoy the insanity of the over the top missions enough. I even enjoy the way the team interacts with each other most of the time.
  7. I'm also really confused by the timeline. Carl got a year, and Chuckie only 120 days, but Carl is out and Chuckie isn't? It seems impossible that Carl was so well behaved that he got out before Chuckie, even if Chuckie got up to no good with the white supremeictsts and got his time extended, given who the characters are. And Sean seems firmly ensconced in the household, but as mentioned, Fiona hadn't yet taken Debbie to the doctor; and Bianca seems to have only been dead a short time. It was all confusing. That aside, I liked the premiere, and I think the season shows promise.
  8. I know I watched today's show, but I could not for the life of me remember anything that happened until I read your posts. That is ... not a ringing endorsement for the show, especially considering that this was supposed to be a Friday episode. As for rape: rape by definition requires a lack of consent, either because consent is withheld or explicitly denied, or because the victim is not able to give consent. To me, Jake didn't have his memories but there was no indication that he was not able to make decisions for himself; his competency hasn't been questioned (although whether it *should* have been is a different issue altogether...). I think Liz is guilty of deception and fraud and maybe even coercion through that fraud, and it was a shitty, horrible, morally repugnant thing to do, but I don't think her sex with Jake was non-consensual. Even though *if* he knew he was Jason, he might have made a different choice, in the moment he was a willful participant; Liz certainly took advantage of his amnesia, but I don't see that in the same light as someone taking advantage of, for example, a person who is very drunk or who has a disability that has delayed or halted their mental and emotional development. As far as we were shown, Jake was a fully functioning, appropriately mature adult human, able to give or deny consent. Still, Liz was so gross in this whole storyline. I understand that viewpoints differ on this very sensitive topic, though. Otherwise, I'm bored with everything happening right now. Give me more Johnny!!
  9. That's an excellent point. While Scotty was singing, I could not believe that no one stepped in to stop him. The band even played for him! I wouldn't expect fisticuffs with Cole, but usually a friend of the groom or the bride's uncle or someone steps in and casually diffuses the situation (I've been to way too many drunken weddings, I think). I completely forgot about our unreliable narrator premise for those few moments. I tend to think that Scotty was not nearly as threatening as Allison remembered him being. I think back to the episode showing her and Cole's viewpoints, and she saw Cole as very threatening then, seemingly without cause. She's consistent in always being the victim, I'll give her that. Which leads me to why I think she lied about the baby's paternity- I'm sure she sees the whole situation as something that "happened" to her, rather than something she did. I didn't have a problem with everyone being chummy, or at least cordial, at the wedding- it's been a couple of years, and it's nearly impossible to maintain that level of hostility for that long, especially when you're forced to deal with each other for parent-stuff. The rawness of the pain and resentment wears off.
  10. Worse than cheesy, it went completely against everything we've come to know about Noah over two full seasons and from several people's points of view, including his own. The baby-daddy revelation was so confusing, and it seemed like possibly the greatest diversion of viewpoints on a major issue we've seen. Noah remembers her telling him immediately after the ceremony, crying, and them having a big blowup and a breakup. She remembers blurting it out as an aside in a room full of people watching Scotty meltdown, with basically no reaction. I could understand if details of the conversation or clothing or whatever got mixed up, but that disconnect seemed ridiculous.
  11. Or this month. I adored Johnny's "What seems to be the problem?" Yes, he's a sociopathic reprobate with a warped sense of morality, and I sure as hell wouldn't want to know him if he was a real person, but he amuses the shit out of me, always has.
  12. In my book, she barely counts as "anybody." My Johnny love remains unabated. I can't bother with the rest of whatever the hell is going on.
  13. Abi may have been the perfect goat for any one of them theoretically, but practically, a person can only be your goat if you're pretty sure you can drag them along with you. No one could have that level of confidence that *they'd* be the one/ one of the ones to get there with Abi, because she could have turned on any one of them at any time. Ideally, you want your goat to be someone who you are pretty sure is loyal to you, or at least can be reasoned with, but who won't get votes at final tribal. I'm with a lot you in being confused why Jeremy never seems to be seen as a threat. All I can think is that a) he hasn't been winning challenges, and b) he's done a remarkably good job at keeping another target in front of him throughout the game. They may even think that the fact that he looks like he *should* be winning challenges and isn't can be used against him at final tribal. I think his low-key personality and the great negotiator skills mentioned above, combined with his flexibility when he sees something isn't working, have kept him in the game this long, but he's going to have to do some serious explaining about his game at final tribal to get the votes; it seems like people don't even realize he's playing! All the MORE reason to target him! They should want to burn that idol so that Jeremy is not guaranteed a place in the final four - if he's in, one of them is out.
  14. It took me a minute to remember who Sierra was...I suppose I don't remember other people who made it this far and got so little air time because, well, they didn't get enough air time to become memorable!
  15. I agree, LadyChatts- I really like that Keith seems to truly enjoy and appreciate the experience. Even little things like driving the cart on the beach- he gets that this is a once-in-lifetime, never-would-have-guessed-I'd-be-here experience, and it's nice to see. Does anyone remember any other contestant making it this far in the game and having had as little air time/ as few talking heads as Kimmi has had? She seems to have been voting with the majority most of the time, but she hasn't had much of a story, other than Clamgate.
  16. Completely agree. This late in the game, an unpredictable and volatile person, goat or not, is too risky to keep around. Better to have people who you think might be somewhat rational and so you can try to strategize with or around them, whichever is needed. I like Tasha. I didn't take her comments about not keeping Abi/ Keith were arrogant or entitled; I thought she was saying that she understands the take-the-goat strategy, but thinks that the fans want more from this season. And there is no doubt that Abi was only ever going to get to the finals as a goat. And while I like Keith (not even sure why!), I can understand why she would see him as a goat- he's been clueless on most votes this season, and he hasn't demonstrated much skill in strategizing (or remembering the names of peop,e he's lived with for a month). Keith and Jeremy and Spencer and Wentworth are borderline painful to look at- they need food! Speaking of food and Keith not remembering Tasha's name: his choices for the reward were bizarre, and his attempt to explain those choices was ... less than strategically brilliant, or even articulate.
  17. I also heard the son say "your dad's" in this episode. I always thought he was Erika's dad, although I can't remember why, until everyone here kept saying he was John's dad. When Evie wrote "You understand," her mom looked devastated, and I wasn't sure why. My first thought was that the cycle of abuse may have reached Evie, and either Virgil or her dad had abused her. Virgil would make more sense, especially if he's Erika's dad and abused her, and then abused Evie, and John shot him after finding out about Evie (and that could also help explain some of why she was so upset when John went to prison). Or is it something much more simple and I just missed it? Kevin's refusal die kind of messed with me. When John shot him, I thought the show had managed to seriously shock me first by having him die at Virgil's, even though I didn't really think he was dead, and then be alive, only to kill him for real! And then he wasn't dead. Well played, show.
  18. Did Meg tell Tommy that she wanted to get him pregnant? I listened to that part twice, and that's what I heard both times. Very confusing! Meg is a total train wreck and I don't think I get her motivation. I was shocked by the Evie reveal, and can't stop wondering how she and Meg stayed in touch to plan all of this, if the conversation we saw was the entirety of their conversation when they met. Needed more Kevin.
  19. I said before that Stephen should have done one of two things with his votes: straight up go after Joe and take the chance that he has an idol (which would result in exactly what happened anyway, Stephen leaving) or have his people all vote for Abi (or someone else). He had *just* been targeted and he should have realized that splitting the votes was too risky when a) he was probably going to get votes again and b) people have been switching sides pretty regularly. He needed to do whatever he could to be sure one other person got a lot of votes. As for the reward, I agree with someone above who said he shouldn't have won. Having won, Jeremy should have been his number one pick- no one would have questioned that after Jeremy saved him. Joe would have been a good second pick, to keep him from talking to others while Stephen and Jeremy were out of camp. Or anyone else, if he hadn't rambled on about needing to rebuild alliances! I agree about the shelter- their feet were a disaster, they were too focused on their misery to strategize, and the challenges would have been terrible if they ALL had completely fallen apart physically. Jeremy saving Stephen might end up being stupid, but it also could have worked out very well, if Stephen hadn't screwed up so badly the next episode. Jeremy then would have had Stephen, Kimmi, and Tasha, and probably Spencer; instead, he ends up with just Kimmi and Tasha. And Tasha needed to STFU at tribal! All that "time to pick who you're with until the end" is dangerous talk when you're in the minority (even though she didn't realize Stephen was going at the time, still dumb).
  20. My biggest takeaway from these two episodes is that apparently Savage thinks he is some sort of teenage surfer. Or something, I don't even know. I can understand worrying about Joe having an idol and so splitting the vote, but I think it is a completely ridiculous plan when you suspect that *you* are also on the target list - you need to be sure that someone other than you gets more votes than you (especially with all this dumb "bloc" talk, which seems to mean that you just can't trust anyone). Stephen needed to pick one other target, and focus on them and them only. Which, yes, means he needed to stop worrying so damn much about Joe- he should have either taken his shot and risked Joe having the idol, in which case Stephen leaves anyway, or turn all the votes to Abi. Instead he set up a scenario that left him vulnerable if even one person didn't vote the way he wanted them to. Total waste of what should have been a powerful advantage by Stephen, and total waste of what may be one of very few opportunities to get out Joe by everyone else. I like Stephen on RHAP, but he has a tendency to over-complicate things and miss the obvious in the process.
  21. That is what they said about the advantage, but without the advantage, that person *would have* voted, meaning that the advantage (if used right) creates a two-vote shift from what the vote would have been, and because Stephen would have his original non-advantage vote, plus that two-vote shift, he ends up responsible for a difference of three total votes. Maybe I'm not explaining it well, but it seems like it's a pretty big advantage. If he wants to shake things up, he could possibly do it single-handedly. In any close vote, especially as the total numbers dwindle, he can stick with the majority and not use the advantage, or go to the minority and use it, changing who goes. Ive officially thought too much about this.
  22. I also don't think that Jeremy is aligned with three women, or that he will need to trust them going forward. In fact, I'm not even sure that people will know who voted for whom. Obviously, Ciera, Wentworth, and Abi voted for Wigglesworth, but I think most of the others could be potential suspects, especially Joe or Tasha, and maybe Keith, given that he seems to like Wentworth. To me, that's the kind of thing they're talking about when they say "evolution"- the way this group is shifting sides back and forth, rather than the straight-up (and usually permanent) flipping sides. It seems a little more fluid, a little more nuanced than some other seasons, especially the really early ones where there was either Pagonging, or just one or two people flipping sides when the numbers were evening out. They're definitely over-selling it with all the talking heads and of course Jeff, but I do think having all returning players combined with all the early tribe shape ups has made this season a little different than most, strategically.
  23. I could be wrong, but I think the cameras have the ability to film in the dark and do not light up the area they're filming. I can't decide if getting rid of Wigglesworth was smart, dumb, or neutral. They haven't shown her to be a big threat, but her personal relationships might have been holding together some of the larger group. Blindsiding her could also make every one else feel unsafe, and arguable gets Stephen and Spencer out of the bottom of a group of 8. I don't know that it helped Jeremy at all, other than keeping Stephen and Spencer close, which seems to be a big part of his strategy for now (and I think it's a good one). I'm also confused about Stephen's advantage. He said he gets to cancel out someone else's vote, AND then gets to vote again. So, in essence he has the power of three votes? Example: the vote is 6-4, with Stephen being one of the four and let's say Kimmi being one of the six. He "steals" her vote. Her vote doesn't count, making it 5-4. He then gets his second vote, making it 5-5. Without Stephen in the mix at all, the vote would have been 6-3, and so his vote and advantage is responsible for eliminating a three-vote difference. That is a serious advantage, as it is actually giving him the equivalent of *two* extra votes!
  24. Did that guy say they were calling it off because "he (whoever that is) only wants ass that's willing"? If so, that's good, I guess, that they're not wantonly raping folks, but maybe not good that they need to clarify it?
  25. I'm pretty drunk (it's what I do), but I'm not sure I see the difference in the two things you're describing. Sonny and Jason choose to kill, but Franco's choice to kill is somehow worse? Please, correct me if I'm misunderstanding. They all have murdered with impunity, have no remorse, and are revered as good people. The Franco tumor thing was, according to my personal soap-watching value system, a much better excuse for murdering than the "gangsters with a heart of gold" BS about Sonny and Jason they've fed us for years. And Franco has not been privileged to the many tongue baths that Sonny and Jason have been (not defending Franco, or any of them- I'm so tired of General Murder). When Jake stared at Carly after she told him he had to call off the wedding, I was hoping that he had remembered that killing people is always the answer. I've been really enjoying Nik and Hayden, and it seemed weird because I'm usually more in sync with y'all (my Spencer love aside). But then I realized that I only like them because they're not Sonny, Carly, Liz, Jake, Nina...
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