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4 minutes ago, SoMuchTV said:
What? What’s the grammar problem here?
Probably that he said "gave my brother and I detention." A compound object requires both pronouns to be in the Objective case.
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2 minutes ago, wallflower75 said:
OK, it's definitely my TV. I just checked my phone and Angela Bassett's dress is definitely purple.
And Ug-LY!
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1 minute ago, SmithW6079 said:
Because she was going to introduce technological concepts her planet wasn't ready for (see my amended post above).
That's not enough of a reason to memory-wipe her without her knowledge or consent. That would in essence be doing the same thing to her her that her culture wanted to do to John.
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1 minute ago, SmithW6079 said:
When they were sending Lysella back, why couldn't they memory wipe her and check all her bags for contraband?
Why would they have memory-wiped her? She'd already met them and been aboard the Orville before she came looking for them this time. And despite coming from a culture that is similar to 21st-Century America, she's not actually from the 21st Century. She's from 2422, so it's not as though she's learned anything that would alter the timeline if she remembered it after getting sent home.
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8 hours ago, SmithW6079 said:
Is it wrong that that I find Mark Jackson really kind of sexy with his natural accent, scruffy face and snug short-sleeve shirt?
If it's wrong, then I don't want to be right! 😉
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11 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:
I was intrigued that the sandwich reappeared after the device had been destroyed. This leads me to believe that there is an alt-universe where Gordon raised the family and lived a long life. It's a good thread to leave for a possible future story.
The sandwich was sent into the future before the device was destroyed. The device's destruction is irrelevant because the sandwich bypassed the moment of the device's destruction altogether. That's how time travel works.
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6 hours ago, DoctorAtomic said:
Also, again, I am coming from the pov that the Union is fairly new and why all these mistakes are happening. I get the feeling that since the show is largely an homage to TNG (and nothing wrong with that), that the Union is being perceived as at the political maturity of the Federation.
And bear in mind that the Federation as we have known it up until now is itself fairly young. It was only founded in 2160 or thereabouts, and we've only seen glimpses of its later development in the 23rd and 24th centuries. "The Orville" is set in 2422, only about a quarter of a century after "Picard" in the Star Trek universe. So really, it's at about the same level of political maturity as the Federation. We simply don't yet know how recently it was founded, but my best guess is that it wouldn't be that much younger than the Federation, relatively speaking. The only major technological distinction is that the Union doesn't have transporter technology (yet).
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9 minutes ago, DearEvette said:
Meanwhile as a little black girl who liked science fiction, watching tv in the 70s and 80s when Star Trek TOS was shown in reruns, Nichelle's Nichols' impact can not be overstated for me. It was a HUGE thing to see her there on tv as a main character in a SF show and important part of it.
Whoopi Goldberg always credited Nichelle with inspiring her as a girl to use her talents to the fullest. As she said, Uhura was smart and beautiful and proof that powerful black women would make it into the future.
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13 minutes ago, jennifer6973 said:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/obituaries/2022/07/31/nichelle-nichols-ukura-star-trek-dead/
Star Trek lost a favorite today.
She was an icon and a role model for generations of women and minorities. Hailing frequencies open, Lt. Uhura. Rest in Power!
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On 7/26/2022 at 5:34 AM, ABay said:
I don't know how "from" was dropped from phrases like "I graduated from college" or why people forget how they were saying things before, but I wish it would stop. If anyone knows who started it, give me a name and I'll fetch my graduated pitchfork and torch.
Technically, it should be "I was graduated from college." The passive voice is the preferred usage, but I haven't seen or heard it used in decades. It's a case of a deponent verb (passive in form but active in meaning) having made the full transition to a transitive verb in the active voice.
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On 7/21/2022 at 8:48 PM, Yeah No said:
Bortus going after the torturer made me root for him to kill him, but I'm not so sure he did. The guy was still alive when they left, although gravely injured. He knows the name of the smuggler. Not good.
And Bortus deliberately fried his brain. I'd be surprised if Torture Moclan even remembers his OWN name now, much less that of the mole.
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Ninety minutes? The time flew by for me!
A fantastic episode -- and yes, it was so satisfying to see the male Moclans finally get called out for their hypocritical bullcrap and kicked out of the Union once it had been irrefutably demonstrated that they had finally gone too far. I seriously hope they get their asses kicked by the Kaylons at some point as the penalty for their hubris!
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10 hours ago, Salacious Kitty said:
When the press conference was announced yesterday, the Fanyus thought it was a lie. They're a mess now.
I wondered how they were taking the news. Evidently, "not well" is an understatement!
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21 hours ago, dalek said:
Science fiction author Eric Flint has died. He's probably best known for the 1632 Universe, which he created and is now a massive, sprawling shared world series in which many authors participate. He also helped start the Baen Free Library, and he had his own small press, Ring of Fire.
Wow, I love that series. The best one was the original book, but the entire world series is fantastic with its detailed worldbuilding.
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36 minutes ago, RedHawk said:
Isaac gaining and then losing his emotions is also reminiscent of the plot of "Flowers for Algernon" a classic science fiction short story by Daniel Keyes.
I wondered whether anyone else was going to draw that parallel. I thought of that story the minute I saw Isaac's expression turn from one of complete emotional rapture to a blank slate, as if someone had just suddenly flipped a switch. And it was just as heartbreaking.
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3 hours ago, hoosiermommy said:
I did find it interesting that Isaac seemed to have had his feelings backdated a few months or so.
I noticed that, too. It was as though the dam had burst and he needed to get all of those bottled-up feelings about Claire and the boys out into the open before they completely overwhelmed him.
Mark Jackson goes by the handle "markjacksonacts" on Twitter. Not only did he live up to his Twitter name in this episode, he made those three words an understatement!
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46 minutes ago, Chicago Redshirt said:
The implication is that normally she can moderate her strength so she's not just destroying stuff left and right, but when she's getting too excited, she has involuntary or reflexive reactions that end up with John getting hurt.
Yep. Think "Woman of Steel, Man of Kleenex."
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5 hours ago, Zaffy said:
is there a way this series will get another season? shall I have hopes for a miracle? sigh.. another great episode...
Seth has said that as long as the viewership is there, he's up for doing more seasons.
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31 minutes ago, DoctorAtomic said:
I thought it was funny that they mentioned covid because I'm not sure 400 years later that was even well known beyond an historical footnote.
One of Gordon's hobbies is studying early 21st-Century history and culture, so he'd have known about COVID when the pandemic first hit in 2019. That's why he was able to reassure Laura that they'd be all right, because he already knew what would be required to remain safe until it had finally and completely run its course (as it appears to have done by 2025).
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19 minutes ago, ketose said:
Not really better because my example had to do with the impact progeny had when you consider an individual's contribution to history. Then again, I'm not a big fan of "City" or Harlan Ellison in general.
But that's just the thing. Gordon isn't supposed to HAVE any progeny to affect history between 2025 and 2422 because he never married Laura or fathered children by her in the original timeline, just as Edith Keeler was never supposed to live beyond 1930 because she died in that year of the original timeline. Her survival is what changed history and had to be undone. Captain Christopher's son was supposed to be born sometime after 1967 so he could play his predestined part in the history and development of space travel. Gordon's children in 2025, in contrast, could have had no predestined future roles to play in the original history leading up to the Orville's time because they were never born in the original timeline.
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3 minutes ago, PurpleTentacle said:
Discarding the fact, that the obvious solution would have been to never contact Gordon in the first place and try to jump 10 years further into the past right away, as that would have been the only way to ensure the timeline stays intact, why wouldn't they take his wife and kids with them? I mean the kids are never supposed to be born and the wife has been changed so much, it's a major deviation from the timeline. Removing them from 2025 and bringing them with them back to the future™ would have been the best, most logical course of action.
And how would they have integrated them into life aboard the Orville in 2422, assuming that Gordon wasn't summarily thrown into the brig and court-martialed for what Kelly said were at least 50 separate violations of temporal law?
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4 minutes ago, Dani said:
I can’t speak for the original poster but I think it is a reference to last weeks episode. Kelly and Ed ignored direct orders while knowing that their actual and the potential to start a war but come down on Gordon like a ton of bricks when he breaks the rules. Topa being suicidal meant they could break the rules even though they didn’t have to rush that decision but Gordon is supposed to commit suicide when he found himself stranded in a situation through no fault of his own.
I wouldn't say that there were no consequences for them. The Admiral ripped both of them several new orifices over it and made it clear that they were lucky that the Moclans didn't make good on their threat to leave the Union over the surgery. She also made it clear that that was the ONLY reason that they still had their jobs and weren't facing a court-martial right then and there -- but they WOULD be if they ever tried to pull a stunt like that again based upon the flimsiest of technicalities.
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3 minutes ago, benteen said:
This episode ultimately showed that only Ed and Kelly are allowed to break the rules, suffer no consequences for doing so and then smile smugly about it afterwards.
What rules did they break? As Kelly said, temporal law required them to go back and rescue Gordon and repair whatever damage he might have inadvertently done to the timeline.They had no choice but to confront him in 2025 and try to force him to leave before they knew that they could simply avoid the whole ugly mess by going back to 2015 and picking him up from there while he was still in self-isolation.
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24 minutes ago, ketose said:
The original Star Trek did an episode like this (Tomorrow Is Yesterday) where they transported a pilot out of a destroyed aircraft. They weren't going to let him go back because he knew about "the future" now, but then Spock found out his future son was going to be a famous astronaut. They figured out some way to fix things when they went forward in time.
I think the better comparison is to "The City on the Edge of Forever," with Laura as Gordon's Edith Keeler. The difference is that Laura wasn't supposed to die in order to restore the timeline. She was simply never supposed to have hooked up with Gordon in 2015 and married him in 2018 because Gordon was never supposed to have gone back to 2015. So Ed was right that 2025 Gordon's family and life there were never supposed to have existed because Gordon should never have been in 2015 to begin with, which means that Gordon was never "ripped" from anything. Since he was rescued in 2015, there was nothing to "rip" him from. That's why his reaction upon hearing what happened in 2025 was so blasé regarding the whole thing.
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S09.E13: A New World, Part 4: Finale
in The Flash
I didn't know that, either, but now that you mention it, I do see the family resemblance!