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I didn't know that, either, but now that you mention it, I do see the family resemblance!

Probably that he said "gave my brother and I detention." A compound object requires both pronouns to be in the Objective case.

And Ug-LY!

That's not enough of a reason to memory-wipe her without her knowledge or consent. That would in essence be doing the same thing to her her that her culture wanted to do to John.

Why would they have memory-wiped her? She'd already met them and been aboard the Orville before she came looking for them this time. And despite coming from a culture that is similar to 21st-Century America, she's not actually from the 21st Century. She's from 2422, so it's not as though she's learned anything that would alter the timeline if she remembered it after getting sent home.

If it's wrong, then I don't want to be right! 😉

The sandwich was sent into the future before the device was destroyed. The device's destruction is irrelevant because the sandwich bypassed the moment of the device's destruction altogether. That's how time travel works.

And bear in mind that the Federation as we have known it up until now is itself fairly young. It was only founded in 2160 or thereabouts, and we've only seen glimpses of its later development in the 23rd and 24th centuries. "The Orville" is set in 2422, only about a quarter of a century after "Picard" in the Star Trek universe. So really, it's at about the same level of political maturity as the Federation. We simply don't yet know how recently it was founded, but my best guess is that it wouldn't be that much younger than the Federation, relatively speaking. The only major technological distinction is that the Union doesn't have transporter technology (yet).

Whoopi Goldberg always credited Nichelle with inspiring her as a girl to use her talents to the fullest. As she said, Uhura was smart and beautiful and proof that powerful black women would make it into the future.

She was an icon and a role model for generations of women and minorities. Hailing frequencies open, Lt. Uhura. Rest in Power!

Technically, it should be "I was graduated from college." The passive voice is the preferred usage, but I haven't seen or heard it used in decades. It's a case of a deponent verb (passive in form but active in meaning) having made the full transition to a transitive verb in the active voice.

And Bortus deliberately fried his brain. I'd be surprised if Torture Moclan even remembers his OWN name now, much less that of the mole.

Ninety minutes? The time flew by for me! A fantastic episode -- and yes, it was so satisfying to see the male Moclans finally get called out for their hypocritical bullcrap and kicked out of the Union once it had been irrefutably demonstrated that they had finally gone too far. I seriously hope they get their asses kicked by the Kaylons at some point as the penalty for their hubris!

I wondered how they were taking the news. Evidently, "not well" is an understatement!

Wow, I love that series. The best one was the original book, but the entire world series is fantastic with its detailed worldbuilding.

I wondered whether anyone else was going to draw that parallel. I thought of that story the minute I saw Isaac's expression turn from one of complete emotional rapture to a blank slate, as if someone had just suddenly flipped a switch. And it was just as heartbreaking.

I noticed that, too. It was as though the dam had burst and he needed to get all of those bottled-up feelings about Claire and the boys out into the open before they completely overwhelmed him. Mark Jackson goes by the handle "markjacksonacts" on Twitter. Not only did he live up to his Twitter name in this episode, he made those three words an understatement!

Yep. Think "Woman of Steel, Man of Kleenex."

Seth has said that as long as the viewership is there, he's up for doing more seasons.

One of Gordon's hobbies is studying early 21st-Century history and culture, so he'd have known about COVID when the pandemic first hit in 2019. That's why he was able to reassure Laura that they'd be all right, because he already knew what would be required to remain safe until it had finally and completely run its course (as it appears to have done by 2025).

But that's just the thing. Gordon isn't supposed to HAVE any progeny to affect history between 2025 and 2422 because he never married Laura or fathered children by her in the original timeline, just as Edith Keeler was never supposed to live beyond 1930 because she died in that year of the original timeline. Her survival is what changed history and had to be undone. Captain Christopher's son was supposed to be born sometime after 1967 so he could play his predestined part in the history and development of space travel. Gordon's children in 2025, in contrast, could have had no predestined future roles to play in the original history leading up to the Orville's time because they were never born in the original timeline.

And how would they have integrated them into life aboard the Orville in 2422, assuming that Gordon wasn't summarily thrown into the brig and court-martialed for what Kelly said were at least 50 separate violations of temporal law?

I wouldn't say that there were no consequences for them. The Admiral ripped both of them several new orifices over it and made it clear that they were lucky that the Moclans didn't make good on their threat to leave the Union over the surgery. She also made it clear that that was the ONLY reason that they still had their jobs and weren't facing a court-martial right then and there -- but they WOULD be if they ever tried to pull a stunt like that again based upon the flimsiest of technicalities.

What rules did they break? As Kelly said, temporal law required them to go back and rescue Gordon and repair whatever damage he might have inadvertently done to the timeline.They had no choice but to confront him in 2025 and try to force him to leave before they knew that they could simply avoid the whole ugly mess by going back to 2015 and picking him up from there while he was still in self-isolation.

I think the better comparison is to "The City on the Edge of Forever," with Laura as Gordon's Edith Keeler. The difference is that Laura wasn't supposed to die in order to restore the timeline. She was simply never supposed to have hooked up with Gordon in 2015 and married him in 2018 because Gordon was never supposed to have gone back to 2015. So Ed was right that 2025 Gordon's family and life there were never supposed to have existed because Gordon should never have been in 2015 to begin with, which means that Gordon was never "ripped" from anything. Since he was rescued in 2015, there was nothing to "rip" him from. That's why his reaction upon hearing what happened in 2025 was so blasé regarding the whole thing.