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This makes sense. It's so messed up.

The problem with starting to watch a series late is that I miss out on the dialogue here on the thread! I'm enjoying the show but I do feel as though we've stalled a bit. We've gotten enough info to understand the characters to a point, and to see that while we might empathize at times with them in certain situations, overall they have few redeeming qualities (except for Greg & Marcia, but let's face it- the jury is still out on Marcia as we know the least about her). Now I'm hoping the plot will move forward. What I keep getting hung up on is ...If Logan wanted one of his kids to succeed him, why didn't he ever give them proper training & mentoring to understand the complexities of running a conglomerate? You know, start them in lower positions like Directors or VPs to give them experience. People cannot simply step into a CEO or COO role. Logan, who is supposedly a self made man, gave none of his children this advantage, and instead shows disdain for Kendell who is the only one trying to do a serious job. I'm struck with how cold Shiv is to offer Tom a prenup that is so slanted against him. It's one thing to protect premarital property, it's another thing to eliminate any inkling of respect & fairness. Tom is clearly a sadist & sociopath, but she clearly sees him as a tool she can mistreat. If it weren't for his lawyer/mother he would never even know. The writers named her Shiv for a reason, after all. Like everyone else on this thread, I am most fascinated with Marcia. I suspect she will slowly be revealed to be the most shrewd of all, and the smartest. I am anxious to see how her story develops.

I stuck in there until the end, but sorry, I just hate what this show turned into. It went off the deep end somewhere midseason and the plot got ridiculous. I won't be back for season 2.

Sounds like he guessed what she would say no to, and then that's all he showed interest in. Effective strategy.

I'm with you. I started watching last night after it was recommended by so many people. I was hooked immediately, fascinated by what I feel is a truthful portrayal of American megawealth, high level corporate dealings, and real estate porn. The acting is so good! I want to root for someone to have redeeming qualities, but I'm not sure I will get my wish. In any event, I'm definitely in for the ride.

I hated that, too. A real misuse of the #metoo movement. Sometimes we make bad decisions and there is no one to blame but ourselves. Sometimes people are jerks to us, and as a result we have to grow a thicker skin and become stronger. Sometimes people get horny & it's not reciprocated and there is no harm done. This doesn't give us license to accuse someone of sexual assault, coercion, & abuse. I hated that Treem ended the scene with Audrey's words resonating with Whitney. I feel like Treem is dismissing the seriousness of the #metoo movement and using it as a way to show innocent people's lives are being ruined when accusers use #metoo carelessly. While that may be true, but it's undermining the countless horrific abuses of power that occured.

This, I think... https://www.realitytea.com/2019/09/10/90-day-fiance-fans-report-paul-and-karine-staehle-to-child-protective-services/

YES! I thought it was unforgivably rude of Tom to be dancing with so many different women. I don't care if that's the thing when you go salsa dancing. And is it?- really?.

Minor point- but Helen stated in an irked tone that Vic had an affair with Sierra... did she forget she also had sex with Sierra?

I'm guessing by the very few comments, the general consensus is this episode was a dud. And I would agree. As if it wasn't already on shaky ground, this show definitely jumped the shark with the ball-pit womb. How disappointing.

Abby has been knocked down a peg, hasn't she? She misjudged the WAP group last week, and she misjudged the nursing panel at Darlene's hearing. She did Darlene no favors with her blunt, "Yep she was a prostitute. Yep she stood outside on a corner. Yep she slept with men for money. And yep, she's been arrested for it." Geez, how about dialing it down a little? These people needed assurance Darlene's past was not that bad, and Abby blew the doors off that strategy. I get what she was trying to say about everyone has a story and Darlene's past shouldn't define her forever, but Abby had only a few minutes to speak and she focused on exactly what they didn't want to hear. Then when she said she was still managing the same bar, that was pretty telling... She was born into a world of money & privilege, and she's always been smug, but now people are not automatically impressed with her like they once were.

It was his phone number, and then he also wrote, "I will see you later" - which was indeed a sign he was stalking her. Paranoia from that, combined with her drug use, lead to her hallucination later at the motel.

Akinyi is lazy. - You are right, of course, about everything she should be doing. If only she would apply herself more, Ben would be such an easy mark.

Joanie confronting Ben was the worst 30 minutes of television I have ever watched. Even the beginning of the scene- with Ben explaining he takes gardening as payment (what??). And when he was confessing, why didn't Joanie grab the little white-cube-recorder and run out the door?!... But I split hairs. It's embarrassing the writers gave two reasonably talented actors those lousy lines to say, and we had to suffer through it with them.

Money laundering. Cody admitted to Obie in the sweat-hut that his father tried to steal money from his family, so Cody turned him into the FBI.

In an interview afterward, Treem stated that Allison was murdered, so it was that scenario that was the real deal.

With all the corny movie quotes, I thought it would have been amusing if EJ would have quoted a line from 'The Maze 2'.

This show is starting to lose me. With the teepee-sauna thing set in (what looked to me to be) a sound stage, it felt like a super low-budget production. I also hated that Krystal sold the diamond in order to invest in the waterpark/splashercize- which she clearly sees as easy money, but at $2/head that's hard to imagine- especially since the FAM crowd will no longer be doing it. She's a smart person and I'd be more inclined to think she'd go get a normal job with good benefits. I was glad to learn why Cody's dad is in prison, but it showed Cody's morals are inconsistent. The tape recorder in the briefcase was cheesy, too. I'll keep watching but I'm worried this show has jumped the shark. Hope I am wrong.

Boom. Truth in this! It's really sad when we find our characters unlikeable even when the story is being told from their POV.

Thanks for sharing. Really, really insightful ...and unsettling. I am hoping they expand the character of Obie's wife. I know that actress is talented. Her character's facial expressions hint to her having a moral compass, yet she stays with a man who is utterly vile. There's a story there, but I'm not sure if the writers will give it to us since we already have a lot going on with other characters who have been introduced yet still not fully explored.

Fascinating article I found on the meaning of the animals we see in the show.... https://meaww.com/animal-motifs-in-on-becoming-a-god-in-central-florida-and-what-they-mean This episode begins with a flashback of A young Krystal having to kill her beloved childhood dog. Any theories on the meaning & how it relates to FAM?

Fascinating article I found on the meaning of the animals we see in the show.... https://meaww.com/animal-motifs-in-on-becoming-a-god-in-central-florida-and-what-they-mean

Avery is a nitwit but she looked beautiful in her wedding dress. It’s a shame they covered it up with that shabby brown cape.

Ewww - How much greasier can Zied’s hair get?!!!

And to add - Bobby's son will likely go to prison for insider trading. He thinks those fellow Wall St brokers are his friends. They will throw his ass under the bus at their first chance.