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  1. I will check that episode out, Mighty Peanut. I've delved into a few cases over the past few years and it always makes me furious and beyond sad to see how easy it is to take someone's freedom, their lives, with no evidence at all sometimes. It's truly horrifying how often the system fails people.
  2. And so it ends. I didn't expect to get so many beautiful little moments but I should've had more faith in McKinnon and company. So much to love in just about every minute of this finale. A list that's not complete because I'd just write down almost everything that did and didn't happen: "You're my hero, young lady." Daniel's dad was loquacious while Daniel speaks the barest minimum of words. Teddy taking his medicine gladly, hopefully because he realizes anger management might be good for him. "We're giving you a raise." "Your letters now are special because I'm the only one who reads them." That entire call was just lovely, I thought. Jon Stern, being eternally badass in the way that matters in the real world: by being a good man willing to fight for what's right. His scene with Daniel was wonderful. I wish he and Amantha would work it out but oddly, she seems to be okay with where her life is right now so I'm okay with it as well. "It felt like we were all being taken to our date with the executioner." Just chills in this scene and its description of Kerwin's last day. How many writers would've even thought of this perspective? KERWIN! Daniel and Kerwin taking a fictional drive. "Because I know ya." Judy Dean and Janet was the real surprise of the finale for me. Did not expect that scene and was once again amazed at the casting on this show. Judy may never escape her "cell" (great observation, The Mighty Peanut!) but I feel like she might, once the real killer is prosecuted. And I absolutely feel the show was telling us that Chris did it and was going down for it. Sondra looking right out at us at the end of the presser and telling us her office would do everything to rectify Daniel's situation were he proved innocent was proof to me that he would be. Melvin! Always glad to see Melvin. Daniel enjoying his friends' company and waiting to talk to Janet later. Daniel smiling. More than once. "I'm cautiously optimistic." As for me, I'm content. Their lives are going to go on without me watching and worrying about them and I feel like I can let go of Paulie and Daniel with no sadness, just a little wistfulness, which is really wonderful and a sign of great writing, in my opinion. Tied up loose ends, but not too tight and not in a pretty bow. A little vague here and there, a little messy, a little disappointment, just like real lives. Aden Young was a wonder to watch and McKinnon's writing was just sublime. I was a fan of his when he played the preacher on Deadwood but who knew how talented he really was when he switched to behind the camera. I cannot wait for what he gives us next. All the actors were pretty much spot on. Again, the casting was possibly the best I've seen. I hope to see all these actors in long and successful careers. I wish I could personally thank every single person who brought this show to life. It was poetry on screen and I'm so glad it exists. So glad to have been along for the ride of Daniel's journey. And so glad to have had you wonderful people to talk with about it. Your insights and comments enhanced my viewing experience every week. It has been a real pleasure. Thank y'all.
  3. Just finished it and will have more thoughts when I have time to type them out, but overall, I loved it. Except the last couple of minutes. I thought we'd said goodbye to Chole so I wasn't thrilled to see her again. I know it was Daniel's daydream of the future and only shows us that he can daydream and hope now, not what actually happens. I feel like everything was wrapped up, the murder, where everyone is heading, but it was done mostly organically and not forced like most shows have done. It was very satisfying to me. I'm content and not as sad as I thought I'd be. More later...
  4. Thanks, AuntiePam. I knew nothing was explicitly said between George and Trey but I thought there was some subtext that made me think that Trey was covering for someone because he had feelings for them. Maybe I conflated what was said at the trailer and the scene with George's dad along with some theorizing in my own head and thought there was something in that earlier scene with G and T that actually wasn't. Ah, thank you, NoDorothyParker. I could remember the gist of the scene but that was all. I did not even remember that Jenny had been mentioned before. I just thought we were supposed to know she was an old friend who was dropped due to all that Amantha was dealing with after Daniel's arrest. And I can't get rid of that quote box. I hope to see Kerwin, too. And I fully expect I'll be crying no matter what happens.
  5. If you're weird, so am I. I'm not sure I've ever watched anything that meant so much to me, affected me so much. Watching the previews for next week, I sobbed and teared up instantly upon seeing Kerwin. WTH, me? And for someone who's a huge word nerd, I find myself inadequately explaining what this show means to me all the time. Ha! Honestly, this made me laugh out loud. I agree about it being a great depiction even though I was cringing and just wanting it to be over with as soon as possible. Clayne Crawford is really amazing in this role. I've said it before, but in lesser hands, this character could've been a one dimensional bad guy. CC and the writers have done a fantastic job making Teddy nuanced. I've gone back and forth on how I feel about him a few times and not because the character has changed or because of bad writing like on lesser shows, but because of the shades and reveals that the writing and CC's portrayal have shown us. The scene with Tawney was really sweet. They've grown up and apart and I think it's going to be okay for both of them. Tawney just seems to have the head start right now. I thought it was kinda great to not have anyone mention the gunshot wound 'til the neighbor asked Teddy what was up with his limp. Other shows would've shown us him having to explain what happened to everyone. "Hunting accident." Hahahaha! Never hunt air dancers out of season, Teddy. The Janet/Ted/Teddy scene was painful and beautifully done. I couldn't hear what Ted said as he left either but seeing it was "I meant Janet," ouch. But I think after the bathroom scene, they're going to be okay. Maybe better than okay for the first time in a long time, or ever, even. Crap, I lost part of your post but I agree with you that since Kerwin said Daniel didn't do it, he didn't. Is that just my Kerwin love showing through? Maybe. And I am glad you and everyone here is here and feels likes gushing about this show as much as I do. The scene with Person, Daggett and Pickens was really great. Even though he tried to rationalize some of what went on that day, Pickens wasn't as defensive or assholish as I would've guessed he'd be. That whole bit about how law enforcement gets committed to an idea in their heads of what happened is apparently very true as I've read a lot over the last couple of years about exonorees and how their should've-been-non-existent cases even got prosecuted in the first place. It's frightening how easy it is to put someone away based on basically nothing. There's no statute of limitations on muder, so Chris could still go to jail for this, right? What's the status with Trey being suspected of killing George? Did that get cleared up or not? Too much time between seasons for my memory to stay caught up, I guess. If Trey saw Chris kill Hannah when he "went back" I would imagine that could be useful info to leverage so he could then just tell the truth about putting George's body in the water and taking Daniel to George's place to implicate him instead. Why did he do that if he was protecting Daniel the day of Hannah's murder? Does Chris have something else on him? Weren't there comments made about George being gay and that somehow played into who was covering for whom, etc. after the murder or am I just making all that up in my head? I could swear when George and Trey had their confrontation before George shot himself, something was said that made me think G was in love with someone involved in the murder and that's why he lied about what he saw. And then G's dad said something disparaging about him in a scene with someone...Daggett, maybe, that drove it home that he was gay and his dad had disowned him because of it. They were at his door and then on the porch, I think when that convo took place. Does anyone remember this or am I a crazy person? I've had that idea for seemingly since the beginning of the show but now I don't know if it's because of the actual show or because of some theorizing I did in my own brain or what. As someone who loathes clutter and stuff, stuff everywhere!, I was thrilled to see the garage and attic getting cleaned out. Can you come help my husband, Jared? He likes to keep useless crap, too. Jared and Janet were great. Nice to see them having a moment or two. Way to come crap all over it, Amantha. Liked Amantha's friend Jenny. Another small moment that said a whole lot about the past and maybe the future, too, that this show is so good at. I'll be very interested to see what Judy said in that letter. Speaking of letters, I guess Daniel will finally open his next week. Loved his scene with Pickle. Anytime Daniel smiles, I'm tickled to see his load lightened if only for a moment or two. And Pickle's delight in having a job and being able to tell his Mama about it was just wonderful. This episode really kicked ass is what I'm saying. Everyone was great. The casting on this show is and always has been stellar. That was a really insightful and interesting article, Sarah. I forget to read the articles some weeks so I'm now going to catch up. The finale title makes me so very happy. All I'm sayin'. :-)
  6. AHHH HAHAHAHAHAHA! Instant karma for shooting my beloved air dancer! That's what you get, Theodore! Yeah, I laughed pretty hard at that, especially since my favorite scene from two episodes back was when Teddy was in his jacket, ready for the meeting at the tire store and he's being all serious and business-like talking about how much they should get for the store, etc., and over his shoulder in the background, the dancing man kept dipping down like he was looking in the window and grinning. It undercut (to me, anyway) how serious Teddy was trying to be and I wondered how Janet didn't smile or snicker a little since it was her POV we were in when that was going on. I'm just glad Teddy wasn't too proud or embarrassed to call 911. I thought he might be calling Tawney at first. Hope this is the end of his self-destructing spiral. I don't hate Chloe but she doesn't seem like a real person either. All the writing for her has been off to me, which is so odd 'cause I don't think I've ever criticized the writing before. Well, not more than a line or two. Everything about her just feels like a tv character which is an unusual misstep for this show. She completely pissed me off in that episode where they were helping themselves to the gelato and making a mess at the country singer's place. Ugh, just tacky AF. Yes, this. I get what her purpose is for us watching, but overall, she doesn't really work for me. I love me some Jon Stern and he was particularly awesome this episode. I agree with you on Sondra. I think she would definitely like to hold the real rapists and murderer (s?) accountable. So would the Sheriff. Looks like Ted and Janet might work it out after all. Only two left, huh? I'm probably going to bawl at the end no matter what the end is. I'm just going to miss this show, these people, so much.
  7. Janet smashing those eggs and her little smile as she walked out into the parking lot---loved it! Also got a kick out of Teddy's line, "No, I got a Prius!" and Amantha's delighted laugh in response. I don't know what to make of Teddy right now but I hope he's getting his mental/emotional act together. I expect him and Tawney to divorce and I hope it's amicable and played as two people who just don't work together anymore, no big drama or anything. I know I've mentioned it before, but where in the world is Tawney getting her clothes? That shirt she had on in the diner looks like something someone much older might wear. Amantha should take her shopping. Not that I love Amantha's style, but at least she's not dressing like she's in a nursing home. /end shallow mini-rant Liked seeing Amantha and Big Ted together. I liked her old friend, too. I appreciated that he was aware of how scary the situation would be to a female walking alone at night and that he was trying to be as non-threatening as possible. I actually loved pretty much every scene of this one. It was great to see the dynamics of everyone, how they relate to each other now, without Daniel around, the glimpses of how they likely were before Daniel's release. Everyone trying to be encouraging or whatever of Jared's camping adventure cracked me up. I think I laughed out loud a few times during this one, which was really awesome. No tears at all this time! Ha! Another great episode.
  8. It's back! This wonderful, spellbinding, heartbreaking, beautiful show is back. I don't have anything to add that hasn't been said but it still makes me so happy to come here and share the love of this show with all of you. This whole episode was stressful for me as I was tensed up, waiting to see how people would treat Daniel. Me, practically the whole epi: "Please be nice to him. Please see he's just damaged and needs a kind hand reached out to him." I was so relieved when his co-worker invited him to eat and said the earlier confrontation was "no big deal." I realized then how masterfully McKinnon has managed to make me actually feel a bit like Daniel while watching. In my own life, that little dustup would've been nothing at all, but the show made me completely stressed out for Daniel while it was going on. Like I forgot how normal it was and viewed it just as Daniel would, a much bigger deal than it was. His whole life is such a damn minefield now. Every interaction is just so hard for him to understand, much less navigate. Of course, the mere mention of Kerwin, even without using his name, and how lonely Daniel was after his execution totally got me right in the heart. That entire speech made me cry but man was I glad he got to say it all to someone who actually listened and understood enough to say the right things to him in response. I liked Chloe. "I was in a sorority once and I don't feel too good about that." Not sure the exact words, but I liked her delivery. I chuckled out loud. Loved him sitting down with his housemates to play cards at the end. I finally felt a little hope that he was going to be okay. Eventually. I think we'll get some resolution to Hannah's murder. I didn't think we would early on in the show, didn't care if we did actually, but as the show's gone on, I feel like there will be some satisfaction on that front. Preferrably with Trey in prison 'cause I'm pretty sure he did it at this point. But if we only ever get hints that Trey and what's his name who killed himself did it, I guess I'll be okay with it. As long as Daniel can live with that uncertainty and can move forward, I can live with never knowing for sure.
  9. I think AutiePam has it right. It's about how hard banishment will be on Daniel, not them. Pile this on top of him serving so much time on death row, being dragged to the point of execution a few times, and now having to start some kind of life away from everyone he knows and loves...it's not insult to injury; it's injury added to grievous injury at this point. All for a crime he likely did not commit and was coerced into confessing to. BTW, the part of the post of mine that you quoted, LoneWolf (which I don't know if it's going to show up in this post where I'm quoting you because I'm not seeing it as I type this) was about Janet's pain at Daniel having to go through the confession and debrief again, not about the banishment that would follow. Her anguish at him having to endure that, at what it was going to cost him mentally, emotionally, in that room, was what she was trying to hide in that scene and her holding it together for him is what got to me. J. Cameron Smith is so good on this show. Hell, all the acting on this show is a treat. I'm glad you're watching, LoneWolf! It's good to have another voice on this show's forum!
  10. Perfection. That's what that whole episode was for me. Every single second was so so good. "No way." Jon, refusing Daniel's proffered hand and hugging him and kissing his cheek instead. Jon Stern, I love you. Threatening the Senator was just icing on the cake for me. Hearing Christopher's account was awful. Even without details, that whole thing made my stomach turn and just repulsed me. That look between Daggett and Person when Chris said no one even talked to him, they just let everyone go, was perfect. The whole kettle corn "saga" was funny just because it was real and one of the things this show does so well: mix in mundane things like that with the deep seriousness of a murder investigation. Daniel staring at the prison---my heart was breaking. And of course he mentioned Kerwin and that broke it completely. I really wanted to see Kerwin again but I'm not sure I could've stood it either. I've said it before but it's truly amazing what they managed with a character that had so very little screentime. Everything with Amantha and Teddy was great, really great. It seemed the big balloon of tension around those two had been popped. The kitchen did look a whole lot better. I'm just glad it's done because having lived through remodeling, that was setting off a twitch for me. Remodeling is pure hell and I will never do it again. <shudder> No mention of the scrunchie but I imagine that will come about next season. Trey locked up for a crime he didn't actually commit is some serious irony, no? I would guess we'll find out what crime(s) he is guilty of next year. They did shoot those last scenes in Nashville---that's our "Batman" building you see in the far background with the sun beside it as they're driving up the hill to the New Canaan Ctr. (is that the right name?)---so I wonder if some of next season will be shot here. If so, I may have to go stalk the set in a non-creepy way. Such a perfect ending to the season of this beautiful, magical show.
  11. "I'd like to tell you about my friend Kerwin." And Syren lets out a huge involuntary sob and is very happy she's alone because frankly, it's embarrassing how much this show gets to me. Just mention Kerwin, and I'm a freakin' mess. I just watched and have had too much wine to comment coherently so I'll be back tomorrow, but man, I love reading this board and the comments over on Sepinwall's review. I'm not alone in my love or my inability to articulate what and how much this show means to me!
  12. Damn, that was an amazing episode! Even with no Kerwin (sob), it was easily one of the best they've done. I had to bold the above to show my enthusiastic agreement. So few shows can make every second seem so vital. I love that I have to pay very close attention to this show, love it. How great was that scene with Daggett and Daniel! As you say, truly magical. I thought the two actors were having a great time together there. It was like Daggett figured out the puzzle that is Daniel and Daniel picked the right time to click into place, if that makes any sense to anyone else but me. After it was over, I realized I'd been holding my breath the whole scene---it was just that damn great. I believe that must be her scrunchy and what the hell was he thinking keeping it? Oh yeah, Trey thinks he's smarter than he actually is. I have come to love Daggett, too. Good on you, Sheriff, for not sucking like your predecessor. Or the Senator. I'm not sure Janet knows the details of what happened, does she? I didn't hate Teddy this episode, but when he admits to everyone that he taunted Daniel, insinuated (outright said? I don't recall the dialogue of the scene) that he must've wanted to be raped, then I'll believe he's truly changed. He seemed to be making some steps this episode and I hope that continues. I thought Tawney's foster mom might be awful for some reason, but she really wasn't. I liked Teddy and Tawney just admitting they're not good or right for each other. There's not always a reason or need for massive drama or someone to be the bad guy when a marriage ends; sometimes people just aren't good mates. Amantha's line about another person other than Daniel capable of committing a crime in Paulie and Melvin's anger at the "buttholes" who ruined the pool were great. Melvin's especially. Him saying "butthole" cracked me and the husbutt up. I speculated last year that the Senator seemed overly invested in Daniel being guilty and wondered if he was actually involved in Hannah's death or just covering for someone's kid or what, so I'm eager to see Jon's smackdown in the finale. Also, I love Jon and love when he's a badass. Go get that prick, Jon! (MorbidPet, I meant to quote you about Jon but messed it up.) I never read interviews with the cast or McKinnon or any media about this show other than Sepinwall's reviews and the stories here, but I may go check some stuff out after the finale. It's weird because I read plenty about other shows I even mildly like so I'm not sure why I've avoided reading about this one. Maybe I just don't want the spell to be broken by reality.
  13. I hate that I have to wait to watch the show on demand the day after it airs but it's the only way to get HD. Does it air in HD for anyone? I'm glad Daggett sees Trey is trying to pin George's death on Daniel. Why on earth would Trey say Daniel was wearing a coat? Like that made any sense in southern Georgia or Florida. I mean, I get that he was trying to make it make sense that Daniel would have all of George's stuff on him---cell, wallet---but why did he think that would play with the Sheriff? Did he think he could just chalk it up to Daniel's eccentricities if called on it? You're more clever than I would've first thought, Trey, but not half as clever as you think you are. Really liked that scene with Person and Daggett trying to figure out the mess that is the Hanna murder "investigation" (such as it was) along with what's going on now. Daniel's remark to the PO, "that's just the way I think," was delivered so well. I could hear his frustration at himself that once again he'd said something that was off-putting to others but it's just how his mind works and once again, he couldn't control his mouth. I think Daniel is more frustrated with himself than everyone else put together. Teddy and Ted Sr., "That's good." I don't know if it's on purpose or just that the show was written by one writer, but I like that they use the same phrases and seemingly in the same way. The I-don't-know-what-to-say-here way. Teddy was less than awful this episode. I was surprised and impressed that he didn't get up and leave Rebecca's office when things got hard. I don't know what to make of the kiss but I still hope Tawney leaves. Getting some MV flavored love seems to have helped Amantha's mood a bit. And her fashion sense---no chip clips in her hair! I always like her but I liked her a lot this episode. She's wrong about Daggett, but that's okay. I do hope she and Jon work it out because Jon is the guy you stick with for the long haul. Maybe she'll go with him when he goes after all. She is still terrible at retail, though, not only did she just stop mid-transaction without even an "excuse me one sec" but she rang up that last item twice according to the beeps. Maybe that was just the sound mixer's fault, though. :-)
  14. I did not know that about Goggins. I loved him as Boyd on Justified, but Rectify would be a very different thing with him in the lead. Aden Young is fantastic, IMO.
  15. I thought this was cool because it's two of my favorite shows meeting in some way. Second item in.
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