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I wholeheartedly agree with this, but it makes me sad. Josh did a horrible, horrible thing, but his parents not only kept it hidden from the public but also his soon-to-be wife. That makes it 10x worse. If they had cancelled the show when it happened, gotten ALL the victims therapists, and written a formal apology to the victims and their parents (if there were outside victims. I swear I'm not trying to speculate about them), it might be more forgivable.

@becca3891 That is terrifying...

I hope they don't break off the courtship because of Josh. If they break it off because of their own reasons that's a good thing, but if it's solely because of Josh, I hope Josiah makes that known.

I agree, she probably won't, but she should. He is most definitely deeply disturbed, and I wouldn't want him around me or my children. He is a disgusting pervert, (and is it just me, or does it seem like a lot of men that grow up in cults (or lead them) are charged with sex offenses?) It's disgusting and inexcusable, and the show should've ended 13 years ago when they found out. I feel awful for those girls.

I've always been a Jana fan, but now.... I can't imagine how much strength it takes for her to do what she does every day, and how much courage it takes for her to face her brother. She really is an amazing person, and even though I liked her before, I really admire her now. I was speculating a while ago (not sure if I posted it here) about how she might be depressed, and I truly think she is now. I hope she isn't though...

@Wellfleet The buddy groups would never revert back to "Mom". They'd probably end up in Joy Anna's care, and she'd become the next Jana pretty quick. Either her or Grandma, but never Mechelle.

So I was insanely excited about Marsiah. Marjorie is taking college classes, she wears pants, ect, but then I finally watched the announcement on People and OH MY GOD. She's TOTALLY a theatre kid, and I'm rethinking my excitement, I think she might be courting just for her fifteen minutes of fame. That would be amazing. I'd love that.

@neural-plasticity I think some people (including myself sometimes, ha...) comment on their clothing because of what it used to be, so they just keep on snarking on it. I personally don't like the boots with jean skirts, mainly just because the skirts are too long. If they raised the hemlines to above the knee it'd be cuter. I try not to comment on their clothes too much though because A. I can't dress myself (yay for jeans and Converse), B. The clothes have gotten a lot better, and C. Who really cares? They're just clothes.

I don't feel chained. I think they're chained even right now, but hopefully they don't FEEL like they're chained. Also, I really hope that there is not a Marsiah engagement anytime soon. A nice 2-3 year courtship (MAYBE even actual dating, they seem a lot more independent!) would be awesome.

I hate gender reveal parties. They used to be cute, (and maybe it's just a side effect of watching this show) but I'm so sick of them.

I don't know if you're legitimately asking but just in case you are, I'll tell you: It doesn't exist unless they have to buy something for the kids.

@neural-plasticity She won't catch up (at least not quickly) if they keep talking to her like a baby, and if they don't do something about her epilepsy. I don't know too much about seizures, but they could start with regular checkups, and isn't there a diet (paired with other treatments of course) that people have gone on that's helped? I don't know, but it really bothered me too.

Came down to comment exactly that. Other than that though, she did look nice.

They have the same middle name?! Is this a common thing to do with twins?

Never thought about that.... They have never (as far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong) said to wait to have sex with the person you love, just to wait until marriage and (to the girls) always be ready to fuck no matter what you're doing or how you feel (Michelle saying, "Duggar women don't get headaches." REALLY pissed me off ). They only ever speak of sex as a dirty thing, or a physical thing that involves no emotion.