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Maybe it was me but I expect to see the results of this eps criminals used in a future ep to give Garland a win. They pulled in some big fish. I expect Liv to help Garland use this to improve his standing and get the old guard off his back. Garland could still be leaving the show but it could be health issues, not competency. Chief Benson is a possibility.
I like this show but for the life of me I do not understand where the Benson/Stabler overlap is going. It just makes no sense at all, it has no legs. She is not going to give up her career, nor is he. Let's say they couple - could that even happen? Aren't there laws about that, IRL? There are two strongly independent characters. I just don't see a promise ring in either's future.
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So, I watched it for the triangle and now it is over. Simply nothing encouraged me to keep watching. The writers stretched this love story beyond all belief and to the point where we had to believe the characters were stricken mute because ordinary people would have spoken out and solved the love story.
Nothing was real about this. We were told constantly that E was candid and forthright about her observations (I believe Lucas's mother said those exact words) yet totally unable to identify and speak to her own feelings.
Nobody else, except maybe Fiona, made me want to watch more.
It was very nice talking to you all these past 8 weeks but I just cannot find a reason to keep watching.
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14 hours ago, SHERMDOG said:
I get cliff hangers but this is stupid!! They teased us at the beginning that Elisabeth would make a choice..ugh...my pick is Lucas...I like the actor that plays nathan...alot...but the writing wants me to have E pick Lucas. We won't know till next season..SO that sucks big time. I'm almost done watching this poop show
Wait - WHAT? I thought we find out Sunday night?
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1 hour ago, paigow said:
Zabel would never ghost his bros to plant evidence... on someone he never met... plus manage to steal it from Mare...
1. Zabel could have planted it after partying.
2. Zabel could care less about who, his intentions are negative toward Mare.
3. Do we know for certain it was the only heroin to steal out of the evidence case?
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Stray thought - We have seen the exact same shot 3 times, in 3 episodes. It is the 'bowling alley' shot from the complaining older lady's backyard all the way past the shed, to the back porch of the house behind hers. We have seen the hoodie guy, the security camera shot, and the graffiti shot. The angle is the same and the direction is the same. It seems odd to me that this particular shot has been emphasized 3 times, and in the first 3 episodes. Ideas?
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7 hours ago, Pop Tart said:
Not sure if I caught it correctly (meaning not sure it was the same day), but I'm thinking part of why Zabel got so drunk that night was because of the previous case with the murder of the ten year old. When Mare was asking him about the case and he told her how he solved it and figured out where the girl was, he looked like he wanted to cry and it was difficult to even recount it to Mare.
She asked him if they found the body there at the construction site (quarry?) where the suspect worked. He paused and then said they were able to bring her home or something like that. He wasn't even able to say how he found the body of the little girl, where she was buried, etc. That kind of death and discovery of a body is traumatizing and though we all watch cop shows a lot (I'm guessing) where cops find a body every week, for a detective in a rural county in PA? He's not seeing that many dead little girls who have been murdered.
Funny that as I had a completely different take. I thought he was making parts up. He does not strike me as a hard-charging detective. According to what we have seen, he is lackadaisical, pleasant, and ready to stop for the day long before Mare. I think he is acting as a unreliable narrator when he speaks and the pauses in his telling of his case indicate dissembling. There may be more to learn about that case and the two cases in Easttown. In short, I don't trust Zabel.
*He also could have framed Mare. When she pulled the drug packets from her pocket in the bar, he could have seen that.
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I am firmly in the Mare was framed camp, regarding the drugs. I have posted earlier - she took the drugs, she wanted to get Carrie in trouble, but we know she had a bad thought, and it went away. I think she meant to put the drugs back. Something has happened to frame Mare.
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3 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:
But what I'm saying is we saw her take the drugs from the locker and, per the captain, the evidence was only missing the amount she took, so I'm still not following.
My thinking - She took the drugs. She sat at the bar thinking, looked at the drugs again, then changed her mind and intended to put them back early next day. When the captain came to her door to relieve her of duty, she went along meekly because -- while Mare is messy, impulsive, and complicated -- she is not stupid. She now knows that somebody else has framed her.
Again, I am working the Zabel theory because the show is not giving us much, or giving us too much. Big named actors generally sign on cuz their part has significance. Jean Smart (Helen) is going to move the story about Drew and Carrie. Guy Pearce, with his odd advice also re: Carrie seems in with that storyline. The priests are red herrings, too obvious. Right now, I am going with Zabel or Frank. Or maybe the Carrie story is going to be THE story....
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8 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:
But we saw Mare do it, so I don't see how this would work.
After Mare looked at the drugs while sitting in the bar, she changed her mind and decided not to go through with it.
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Impressions:
1. Carter and Faith - Nobody cares.
2. Somewhere, on google, there is a clip for the upcoming episode. Rosemary is saying that some people come into your life for a season and others for a lifetime. The image for 'a season' is Lucas, and the image for a lifetime is Nathan. Is Hallmark sending a message?
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I am sorry, but this episode came so close to jumping the shark, I was hiding behind my sofa, cringing. Yes, of course, I will keep watching.
1. Mare tells Frank about the evidence that he is the father. He asks who told her that and she tells him Lori. NO. No cop would identify a witness to the accused. Srry, that is so unprofessional as the be impossible to be believed.
2. Mom Helen calls social services to find out what Carrie has to do to get Drew back. NO. That is betrayal of magnitudes so large I cannot even guess at them.
3. Mare steals out of the evidence locker, apparently plants drugs on Carrie, and is surprised to be caught. NO. Mare seems to be alot of things but stupid is not one of them.
Possible theory: Colin Zabel has a much loved father/uncle/cousin who was an esteemed detective somewhere. Mare found out they were dirty and put them in prison for the rest of their lives. Zabel changed his name and is out to get Mare, on a day by day basis. He took the drugs out of the locker to frame her. We have seen this in a zillion cop shows.
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On 4/28/2021 at 9:49 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:
I don't think she pressured Dylan into pretending the baby was his. I think she slept with him so he had reason to believe he was the father. Based on his explanation about the attic, it sounded like they were sexually involved for a little while (not just a one time thing) and Dylan probably had no reason to think that she was hooking up with anyone else.
Or possibly raped by somebody else, maybe Frank Sheehan.
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46 minutes ago, lookeyloo said:
When Erin K said there would be a decision/resolution did she say Elizabeth would choose one of the men? Because maybe a resolution is neither.
I have been thinking about that. If nobody really emerges as the main dude in the next episode, there is a chance that E picks nobody. I thought there was a moment between Nathan and Fiona at the wedding party so maybe the writers pair them up. A new female character arrives for Lucas and E gets severe arthritis :-)
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12 hours ago, Vella said:
Well, that got stupid and soapy really fast.
I have never understood why show runner after show runner in these carbon copy murder series never feel that the murder of a single person is compelling enough on its own. There must be 8 other nonsensical stories flapping around at the exact same time. I can only imagine how more focused the writing might be if there was no dead son (no blinking grandson or I WANT FULL CUSTODY mother) and no love interest(why does she need a love interest???). Even the writing for Mare, our protagonist and hero is uniformly lazy and trite. ...
THIS. Some posters are comparing this to Broadchurch. I LOVED Broadchurch and I have been wondering why my response to this show is not the same. I think partly because they are literally throwing characters at us. There are 2 TWO dead girls and I have to remember the two men who are dragged to notify the dead girl's father, Kenny. TWO dead girls and I know that Beth's mother is dying of parkinson's and her brother is an addict who steals from her. It is either a mass murder where the entire town did it, or this is characterization by scatter shot.
In Broadchurch, it went much deeper into the two detectives and the family of the dead child. Things may turn around but if I have to learn everyone's first name in town, I am no longer watching :-)
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4 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:
The bestie told Lori that she thought the father was Frank Sheehan, who is Mare's ex-husband. Her son's name was Kevin.
TY. I did have that completely wrong.
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1 hour ago, treeofdreams said:
So the mind-numbing triangle continues to get even more mind-numbing...
Didn't someone post that we were assured that Elizabeth would make her decision at the end of this season? I fervently hope so.
I went to Google and searched. According to what I could find, yes, it is supposed to be settled this season. There is a video clip of Erin K stating that it would be decided. I think there are only two more eps so somebody better start looking like the winner. Soon.
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Wait, wait,. wait. And I admit to having some trouble managing all the characters thrown at us.
32 minutes ago, tennisgurl said:I was suspicious of the ex right away when we found out that he was Erin's teacher, but with him being mentioned so quickly it makes me think he's a read herring. He may or may not be the father of Erin's son but I don't know if he is my prime suspect.
I thought Erin's bestie told Lori Ross, Mare's fellow basketball player and BFF (Julianne Nicholson) that Mare's dead son was the father. This would be Mare's son who killed himself. Did I get that completely wrong?
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I am watching it and I am still interested but this show is skirting misery porn status. Hope it doesn't step over the line.
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On 4/20/2021 at 11:14 PM, kieyra said:
Tangent, but he’ll be on HBO himself next month on the new season of In Treatment.
I LOVED The Killing, both with Enos and Kinnaman.
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1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:1 hour ago, shapeshifter said:5 hours ago, shapeshifter said:
don't watch the newer Wolf Chicago shows, but like SVU and this show, they air on the same night, back-to-back, and have character crossovers. So it seems to be a marketing thing for the network, designed to demonstrate to advertisers that they have captured viewer eyeballs for the night.
If I'm right and the crossovers are a business decision, that might explain the awkwardness of the character intersections.Edited 1 hour ago by shapeshifter
But, if you are right, this is going to have to continue to some end. Either Stabler and Olivia hook up, or this is nipped in the bud by Olivia. I have been wondering if Hargitay has indicated she wants to quit L&O and maybe moving her to Stabler's show as simply the love interest is one way to do that.
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Not a shipper here so ....
Does anybody understand why Stabler said ILY to Olivia. The last thing she said was something like -- what can we do for you, or to help you. The we was Olivia and all his children. They are all crowded into the same room. Why would ILY be his response?
Assuming the writers are logical people, how is that response reasonable? How does that fit into a situation where a group of intimates are trying to help Elliot. I thought it was well-acted and surprising, considering his children were there. I guess we always knew they had an affair of the heart, not of the flesh. But still, I am having trouble trying to understand what this means. Ideas?
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7 hours ago, allonsyalice said:
They honestly treat Elizabeth like an object. Like a prize. It's disgusting. It's almost as if what she wants doesn't matter.
But E seems to have no idea what she wants and all indications are that she will continue to float on the attention of two men without doing a thing about it. Even if we just look at it ethically, without any emotions, she ought to use firm language and tell one guy that she is taken. But she hasn't.
Everyone can say that Nathan is not the good choice, but when he told her he loved her, did she stop him cold? Did she tell him her heart was with another? Nope, she told him she could not handle another loss, which to his ears, is that he might still have a chance.
When Lucas asked her what she responded to Nathan's protestations of love, E said "nothing". Time for Lucas to back away. This woman is not the catch either of these guys think.
And Hallmark, channel king of the womanly romance, has put their leading lady in a really poor light. She is never home, ignoring her child, always bouncing between two men, totally indecisive, arguing with her bff neighbor, and completely self-involved. And the writers have let this go on so long that it is almost indecent. That 'take the hands of your true love' was so hokey I almost gagged. Do they need to hire more writers? I could do better than this.
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Upon careful consideration of the romantic triangle, I just don't like Elizabeth. She seems to think everything is about her and she is boring.
I like Lucas but he could use a backbone. He does all the heavy lifting in this relationship for a woman who acts like a twit. He needs to back away. I also like Nathan but his communication skills need serious work. I was surprised at how well he did in explaining himself to E but in general, dude does not talk except to issue proclamations of love.
But, BUT, at the minimum, both men are engaged in actions to get someone they want. They are doing something. E simply stares at her bellybutton and is frozen in place, for far too long. She is not worth it. Move on, dudes.
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You said --
19 minutes ago, WhyAmIHere said:Ain’t that the truth and I’m not even talking about the Jack reveal. These two never talk about anything other than Allie.
Something that I really dislike in Hallmark movies is how kids are treated as small beings that simply cannot be told the truth. I believe that, when appropriately shared and on a proper level, kids can understand how adults feel about something. Allie can be told that love is a special feeling, and that while Nathan and Eliz are friends, they do not have that special feeling for one another. Or something like that. A kid could understand that.
But on Hallmark shows, I have watched where one person is left standing at the altar, in front of family and friends, while the other person walks away with no explanation at all. A few years later, the runaway person shows up in town, a kid takes a liking to them, and suddenly the child invites said person to all sorts of events and the other adult acts like they have been struck mute. It makes adults look stupid, it makes the kid look like a little dictator, and there is no basis for trust or truth in a relationship. That is just preposterous.
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S03.E14 Death Begins in Radiology
in New Amsterdam
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What did Bloom do? She is gonna pay, one way or the other.
Floyd needs to break up with open marriage gal.
Max and Helen - glad about this
Iggy - he seems to work really well with troubled kids and their parents. Maybe he could go into some type of private counseling or Max could immediately set up some type of open-door mental health counseling.
Max - I love Max. I would NEVER want to work for such a boss but as a character, he is very appealing. I hope Eggold never surgically touches his face. It is soooo mobile and you can see him acting with his whole face.
We could use some more of Casey, the blue-haired nurse, the small person nurse, and the administrator lady.