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  1. Dynasty looks also very likely imo. Previously the Lost Boys and Charmed reboot seemed to be a sure thing as well but if I remember right they pushed those back. I really really would love to see Black Lightning on screen. For none comic people, Black Lighting is one of the first prominent Black Superheroes in the DC universe. Also one of his daughters is a lesbian, whose girlfriend is a 7 ft tall bisexual buff Asian American . That is a lot of representation you don't usually see, though of course they might screw it up but the creator behind Being Mary Jane and her husband are Executive Producers. Then there is also the exploration of black fatherhood, which is rare as well. The 100 isn't doing hot among critics anymore from what I've seen, and ended up on many worst shows or most disappointing shows of 2016. As a spoiler hound, it is really felt how many sites have dropped reviewing the 100. IGN and AVClub still reviews, but most of the remaining tend to be glorified fangirls (see Hypable) and not professional critics. There used to be a lot more sources for information since review sites are frequently offered interviews with the cast. The amount of discussion on various review sites is also so much less, and in some places pretty much dead like reddit. Considering that LoT is beating Arrow currently, and with a lower budget than previously, I think it is likely it will end up with a 22 episodes order. That would remove one half season show slot. The CW acquiring Supergirl also over inflated their line up, and gave them another 22 episodes show. The CW has never had this many shows in their line up, but I still think the 100 is safe. What can change it, is the lack of CBS produced shows in the line up. Otherwise, it seems safe simply because of 2 shows ending and 2 shows doing worse.
  2. There used to be a lot of chatter about this "Netflix deal" that could save shows, and a lot of speculation and wrong conclusions about what it was. Two popular conclusions were many thought Netflix wanted shows with 5 seasons or didn't want incomplete shows. The Sony Leaked emails showed that the Netflix deal actually meant that for every 4th season of a show, Netflix pays an increase in licensing price per episode. And it is a very sizeable amount that it makes it worth renewing shows that are losing money in order to reach that. The numbers for a show (Better Call Saul I think) were among the leaks, and I think it was around 23% more $$$ for the show per year if 4 seasons (with another increase if the show has 8 seasons). It is a pretty safe assumption that Reign got renewed based on this, and it likely also had an influence for why The 100 and The Originals were renewed as well as it made them all reach 4 seasons. At the time the CW renewed all their shows, The 100, Reign, The Vampire Dairies and The Originals were the lowest WB produced CW shows but they all reached 4 seasons or 8 seasons with being renewed. Edit: Supernatural also reached 12 seasons with their renewal. Not that they had a chance of being cancelled, but that was another show getting a boost in $$$ from Netflix back then
  3. Could you please share your thoughts on why you think total viewers are more important than the demo? Particularly as the 100 longer qualifies for the Netflix deal/bonus (in the sense it needs 4 more seasons for the next boost), and doesn't do so well on streaming services anymore. With the goals of WB and CBS regarding the CW, demo still looks to be most important from what I gathered, but I am not opposed to be proven incorrect. Nielsen system is outdated and streaming makes things hard to gauge. Regarding pattern it fits within the general down-slide of TV ratings in general however I think with looking at the CW, it is best to measure the shows against each other. Here the 100 is the 8th lowest out of current 10 shows airing, and JtV (CBS) is already renewed. But I do think the 100 has very very high chance of another season. Not because they are doing good, because they are from what I can see, under-performing compared to expectations. But NT and Frequency flopped, Reign is in its last season and so is TVD. So that seems to be 4 cancellations. Then there is also The Originals and iZombie returning that might perform worse. The CW is overstacked with shows, ordered a fair share of pilots and got their fingers in over 23+ new shows, but I don't think it is likely the CW cancelling 5 shows, and if they do, TO or iZ might be the 5th instead.
  4. For the italics: Thing is, not all 'bad actions' are morally equally bad. It would be pretty disingenuous to present it as so. There are some that are definitely worse than others, which isn't only measured on the action itself, but also the context and motivation. In a prison, ideally all of the people in there has committed a crime, which makes them all criminals. But would one consider them all equally morally bad? No, because there are different crimes that require different amount of disregard for other human beings or lives. Someone that has to serve time because they can't pay their parking tickets is not as bad as someone in prison because they kicked a dog to death. Even if you take the same crime, motive still makes a huge difference. Say a person killed a man because this man raped their daughter and got away with it. Now another man killed someone, and their motive was because the victim was black. Would you really look at both and call them equally bad? Motive matters. Context matters. That goes particularly for talking about the morality and likeability of characters on a show such as the 100. If a story is trying to sell me the idea of the character X being a flawed hero that just messes up sometimes, it needs to not make that character do things that go into the area of irredeemable/actions of a villain. Jasper fried 300 Grounders at the end of S1, but I've never seen fandom hold that against him, because (from my impression) its understood why. Its known his actions didn't come from a place of selfishness or outright bigotry. His actions were by far tied primarily with that if he didn't push the button, him and all his friends would had been dead within a couple of minutes. Of the current main cast, no one has committed the same or more horrific actions than Bellamy, with so many of them having morally shitty motives. That is in part why I'm not here for the woobifying, or justification that relies on endorsement of xenophobia and imperialism that is tied intrinsically together with white supremacy. And on top of it, he has dodged any real consequences almost every time. Pre S3, Bellamy already had a bunch of morally horrific actions from S1, where most people let it go as a result of his first redemption go around including myself. Bob put in one hell of a performance back then. Bellamy gets less sympathy from me because his actions have been based on pure selfishness + controlling behavior in S1, and in S3 it was based on xenophobia / misogynistic story telling / man pain, and in S3 it isn't the first time either that he did really awful things. The xenophobic motive of his actions makes irredeemable to me alright? I know it is not a deal breaker for everyone, but it most certainly is for me. Likewise characters that commit acts of murder based on racism/homophobia/sexism are trash to me. All the bolded parts are basically canonically incorrect or assumption presented as fact. I don't mind discussing the various characters critically - particularly Clarke where I find her much more dark grey with tipping her toes into black area than most of fandom - but we need to have a common base in the show. Also think would need to take it to a different thread. Would just say at least look up the symptoms of PTSD. Clarke has almost none of them. She has several for depression, which is very frequently a part of having PTSD. Only other thing is can say she might have nightmares (but she doesn't have invasive memories, flashbacks or missing pieces of memory). I'm bone tired of fandom declaring that everyone and their dog has PTSD, when many of the characters doesn't show a single symptom, or any where near enough to qualify. End result is making light of what PTSD actually entails and spreading misinformation about it. Experiencing a trauma or multiple ones can result in PTSD, but it is not guaranteed, which is how parts of fandom and the writers talk about it. Also implying Bellamy wouldn't get away with the chip part and Clarke did? Lets not pretend Bellamy hasn't gotten away with matters of dubious consent. In S1 he was sleeping with multiple aged approx.14-17 year old teenage girls that he held a disproportionate power difference over. Fandom completely hand waved or even made shit ton of jokes about that. Even now, there is a gifs popping up about how "this is the guy that had threesomes but lol he can't flirt proper with his lil Princess wuw". Large parts off fandom complete ignores the creepiness and dub con, and even made into something that is presented as something that shows he is this "stud/hurr durr Alpha male". People are straight out making jokes of it, despite several rape victims have expressively asked for people to stop, lots of his fans pretend like there was nothing creepy there. Even Linctavia fans will admit and show much greater understanding for people taking issue with their age difference and development. Clarke wanting to force the chip? Absolutely the worst her character has ever been, followed by her becoming spineless to facilitate Bellamy's redemption/barely giving any negative reaction over Bellamy's and Pike's xenophobic mass murdering ways. How Clarke treated Niylah is also up there in the top 3, because she was an utter d-bag to her and showed so little sympathy or care towards someone that been nothing but kind to her, and risked her life. Last paragraph about Representation: Not all representation is good representation. The way you describe Bob as a biracial man representation-wise is rather shallow view point as it omits the problems brought upon various story telling decisions that has been rightfully called out by PoC, fans that are part of groups often victim of xenophobia and particularly Filipino fans. Representation talk under spoiler cut, as it is not really episode 4x02 discussion, but brought up here.
  5. 4x02: Average: 0.376 which gives a rounded up 0.4 Half Hour Marks: 0.400 ---- 0.353 These won't be the very finale adjusted unrounded until next week. Arrow ran overtime, so a downwards adjustment is expected. An average of 0.378 is the current series low if I remember right, so 4x02 might take that title by a very slim margin. In total viewers (not that those really matter much), it reached all time series low with 1.013 mil. In comparison 4x01 got: Average: 0.441 (a strong 0.4 close to a weak 0.5) Half Hour Marks: 0.463 --- 0.418 I bring in the half hour points, since they are the best at giving an idea of the reception from the GA of an episode. Since they represent (to a degree) the people that decided to watch the episode, but then switched off due to finding a given episode bad or uninteresting. The initially demo from 4x02 being lower than even the end demo for 4x01, implies lack of capturing audience interest with the season start, but the second and third episode being increasingly lower is very very typical. I.e. the real average is found after the first 3-4 episodes of a season as it gets whittled down to the 'core audience' numbers. But if the next episode continues like that, the show will hit 0.3 soon, which I didn't see as an option until Empire returned. I expected it to bounce between 0.4 and 0.5 until stronger competition kicked back up. The amount of audience drop off between the half hour marks, are within the average of the 100, but the low starting demo, is not.
  6. Octavia and Lexa share the same skin tone, and Raven's is slightly darker than both (people straight out used Photoshop to compare their color #). But I know on twitter/Tumblr certain fans that hate Lexa tried to make this a Lexa vs. Raven/Bellamy thing (conveniently ignoring Octavia), instead of focusing on the real issue that Raven and Bellamy are obviously way to light in skin tone. But honestly, to me that shows they don't truly care about this and are just using it to continue their hate on Lexa despite her having been dead for almost 11 months. Like... it is time to let it go. Clarke and Lexa happened, the (still) constant invasion of the Lexa/Clexa/ADC tags with hate, and death wishes sent to ADC are ridiculous. People involving that nonsense in this issue with the Funko Pop skin tones just leave a bad taste in my mouth. The skin tones are honestly not that hard a fix, and normally I would had guessed they already have produced a bunch and don't want to lose $$$. But initially they had Clarke holding the gun in the right hand, and they fixed that. So I think it really is Funko being utter garbage with not fixing the skin tones (and honestly Bellamy should have freckles to). It really makes me mad, that with important things such as merchandise this type of erasure happens. I think the only ones that can put pressure on Funko by now has to be the writers, and they have chosen to be mute on this subject. That said, I don't think the skin color issue has such a big noticeable effect on sales because Raven is selling really well. Raven as the 3rd best selling is a pretty constant thing, and her fans, which is has a lot of Latinx, compared to Bellamy's which is heavily **white seems to still buy it. The thing with Funkos from my observations is that it is not Tumblr or twitter fandom that mostly buy these things. The purchases tends come from other parts of fandom. There is a certain collect aspect over it as well, and people that don't really take part in fandom, also buy them frequently. There are also people who seem to think that if they support their favorite, it could result more Funko Pops. **I know his S3 arc turned off understandably a lot of the Filipino fans he had considering the over hundreds of years the country spent colonized, and victim to being killed by an invading force. Having a character that is half Filipino use the same rhetoric and justification as those that brutalized their country for centuries, while butchering the native population, caused a lot to be upset and drop the show. It didn't help when a lot of his white fans wrote out big essays justifying xenophobia and colonization, which pushed a lot of Filipino fans out of the fandom, that would had preferred to mobilize and call out the show for its gross actions with regards to Bellamy. Nevertheless I'm surprised Bellamy isn't doing better. I think after S2 he would had sold a lot more but still. Another website I went back 30 pages of their bestsellers and I still couldn't find him, whereas I found everyone else within the first 10 pages
  7. According to canon, Lexa would had been killed by her own people if she didn't enforce their laws, as said outloud by Lincoln. Likewise it is also canon that the Grounders on their own would had killed everybody in Arkadia including Finn, and by asking for only Finn, Lexa saved all the other Arkers. Now some people in fandom pretty much chose to ignore or re-write this, where as others can't remember what Lincoln said so it seems like Lexa could had acted differently. The former though is done blatantly for them in order to fit their own fanon version to villainize Lexa. I remember particularly how this stuff with Finn was not being blamed on Lexa when it happened in fandom 'cause Lincoln spelled it outloud what would happen to Lexa if she spared Finn in any way. But then Clarke and Lexa kissed and suddenly a certain fandom came out and started ignoring canon in favor of demonizing Lexa as the Finn Killer!1 (and anyone with a brain knew what was the cause of the sudden demonization of a lesbian character perceived to be blocking a M/F ship lmao ). Did you then enjoy S3A? Clarke's screen time was very low there, with Bellamy getting the most screen time in S3A, and in general the Arkers like Monty got a lot more screen time. The bulk of the time was spent in Arkadia as well. I'm honestly curious 'cause in my opinion the other cast members can't carry the show in the same way. Monty? The actor is weak and the character potential squandered over and over (he should had gotten Jasper's story line in S2). Harper = non entity. Bryan = non entity. Miller = not very developed and the actor is very uncomfortable at playing gay. Bellamy = xenophobic genocidal post apoc Trump jr that got more free passes and thicker plot armor than anyone else at this point. Not to mention there are enough post Apoc shows with a dude at the center with a lot of Man Pain involved and female character fridged. Octavia? Maybe character-wise but I don't see it on an acting level. Maybe if the show still had Ricky/Lincoln. Raven/Lindsey is the only one I feel like has a character and an actress that could step up. From the adults Abby hasn't really been relevant for a while, Jaha should had been writing off awhile ago. I'm curious as to how you would envision it working? Wasn't that his earlier arc though where he "sacrificed himself" for parts of the Ark to make it down? I do believe you are right, but jesus it is repetitive. It also just hurts the credibility of the 100 setting, that these Arkers can get away with so much shit against the Grounders. I think like a fair share speculated back after S3 finale, that they will go back in space. Maybe some will find a nuke proof bunker as well, so they will be split. Well it has been an on going complaint that some characters on the show was never really allowed to show their grief - primarily the female characters. Like we had a good arc with Kane changing cause of his actions (the best executed character arc on the show imo), flip flopping arcs with Bellamy (despite the S3 being shit, it was partly about his sadness/man pain/loss/wah wah, and his personality change with Finn in S2 was supposedly consequence of his role in the killing of 320 innocent Arkers), Jasper with Maya, Jaha with Wells. But somehow Raven's grief of Finn was just speckled throughout, Clarke got very little with Wells and also Finn (I would argue that Finn wasn't someone I thought she should grieve a lot considering she knew him for less than 5 days before she broke up with him and then decided to keep her distance. I felt more the action of mercy killing him and mourning what he became should had been focused on). Fans pointed out that it seems like the female characters had to swallow down their pain very often, whereas the male characters tended to get multi episode long arcs that were central to changing their characters. Now Clarke is a person to REALLY repress her own emotions while she flounders about trying to save people or do shit, but you can have that and still let the cracks show. So maybe the show is trying to do that this season. To know if they are, will be easier to see how Octavia's arc pans out. I thought her grief was grossly neglected last season, where they made the initial focus center a fair share on Bellamy. Like they released the slides from the beat down Octavia gave Bellamy, and it was pretty much all. about. Bellamy. and. his. feelings. That obviously upset fans because why did it have to be about him, and not the character most effected? Why did the entire scene open up with the camera focused on him, and the scene also focused on him instead of Octavia that had suffered this huge loss? So this could be one of the steps of the writers taking some criticism on board, and allow some characters to grieve a bit. Another example of 'feedback' is the inserted explanation of Raven being a coding master now, which was in S3 a pretty huge plot hole/something that made no sense since mechanic =/= super coder and hacker. The time line is pretty bad overall with making it believable how some characters have "bonds", and it is only made worse when you consider how much certain characters have been separated. We had the strong attachment the Delinquents showed to Clarke at the start of S2, which felt a bit exaggerated because a reason why Clarke felt it necessary to work with Bellamy was that a lot didn't like her or wanted to follow her ideas. Or like in S2, MW had either Clarke inside or Bellamy inside. And before that we had S1 where they spent most of the time as antagonists, and then Clarke was separated with Finn by Anya. Yet come S3, we are supposed to believe Bellamy is really that upset over Clarke leaving? It made more sense his S2 characterization of being supportive instead of him flip flopping on his support in S3 and throwing a fit over it. The excuse from the writers have primarily been that the characters are in super intense and frequent life threatening situations. And I agree - to an extent - that it makes sense that you form really strong attachments in short amount of time. But still I feel like we also need to see the characters enjoying themselves together, to really buy or lend credibility to these intense feelings and bonds. Like even if it was cringy, it was good they showed the car sing along at the start of S3. Likewise Clarke relaxing and drawing Lexa showed they felt comfortable letting their guard down and just enjoy each others company or the bits of dialogue that makes it clear that they talked about their life experiences and culture (fx Lexa had told her about the Primfarya and her conclave). I feel like the show could do with weaving in more of those dialogue bits between all the characters, because it lays down the background of them interacting and hanging out, outside of talks of survival/planing/action.
  8. There are finally official Funko Pops up for pre-order for the 100. Also if anyone wonders why 2 Lexa's well it is rather obvious if you look at any big site selling them, and check the pre-order best sellers. For example on toywars if you sort by best seller the first page is: Lexa Funko (no 2 and was previously sold out), Clarke Funko (no 5 and was previously sold out), A Clexa Funko Set (no 6 and currently sold out), Lexa Chase (no 9, costs 3 times more than regular Funkos and sold out), The Set with the 6 Funkos is no 18. Raven is on page 2 of the best seller listing, and page 3 got Octavia and Lincoln alongside the Set again except this time it also got the Chase Lexa (so 7 Pops). Bellamy is the least selling of the bunch back on page 7. Basically the general trend is the Lexa Funko(s), Clarke and Raven that top the charts and are sold out. Funko themselves said Lexa was the most requested, so yeah they are a business and therefore make what they think will give them money. Some places the Lexa chase is already completely unavailable. There have been complaints over the skin tones of Raven and Bellamy (with the latter it seems like the same skin tone as the Glenn Rhee one). It is an issue with Funko Pops that in general, that many black and brown characters are several tones lighter with regards to their Pops. Me and others have tweeted at their official account @OriginalFunko in the hopes that they will fix it, but they don't seem to care.
  9. Ratings for the season premier are in: A 0.4 in the demo and 1.27 mil viewers It is a -40.30% drop from last year debut in the demo and -32.27% drop with viewer count. source That is quite... ouch. For competition it faced 2 reruns and Criminal minds & Star. Empire won't return for quite some time, which works in favor of The 100.
  10. This was a bit of tie up some lose ends and set-up, which I didn't mind because a first episode of a new season should do that. There were some things that was a bit iffy (like the sudden explanation of why Raven could code, which was obviously inserted after fans critizsed a mechanic being a master coder last season), but there was also some things that worked. I can't say I was glued to the screen. Things kinda moved along at a slow pace and yet it went through a bunch of stuff? Like the events that took place, several of them were big, but it hobbled through them. I was really glad to see Indra again, and the hug with Kane was so sweet and so Indra with how she did it. The moment between Kane and Abby with Clarke observing was really well done, and Abby and Clarke scenes are always powerful. The plot was a bit weak at points, like Clarke and Abby suddenly by the door to the room with Roan despite us seeing maybe around 50 people guarding that small area. It is pretty unrealistic they could sneak past all of that. Octavia, Indra, Kane and Abby make for a very interesting group that I'm actually intrigued and looking forward to see how they work together and interact. The setup While I enjoyed Roan last season, I'm already feeling a bit bored by him? Zach (whose name wasn't even spelled right in the credits) isn't really giving me much in the sense of a powerful presence at the moment. He is pretty reactive as a character instead of proactive, and rather predictable as a player at the moment. Echo on the other hand as a player was interesting, and it fit that she would adapt constantly and try to move things in favor of the Ice Nation after we learn that she is both part of the Royal Guard and a trained Spy. Hopefully he will become more of a force to be reckoned with, since he is a regular now so he will probably have a significant amount of screen time. For potential Bellamy and Echo pairing, Imma withhold judgement. Would feel be pretty hypocritical not to considering other pairings on the show. For example Kane shock lashed Abby and they were antagonists at first, but they are together now and in general people like them including myself. Emori/Murphy is another overall favorite that involved betrayals but from looking around fandom and various media sites, people like them and they work rather well. The show managed to develop them in a way that made them work. I'm a bit hard pressed to think of a couple that has never had problems with betrayal. Any other significant couple canon or fanon also got aspects of betrayal that I can think of. Even fanon ship like Bellamy and Clarke that got the 2nd biggest fanbase have numerous betrayals and a shit ton of dishonesty between them. I.e. S1 Bellamy -> manipulating and using the 100 to get everyone on the Ark killed including Clarke's mom -> S2 Clarke betrayed Bellamy's and his trust when she lied about Octavia who she knows is his number one priority -> decided to not warn Octavia about the bomb -> S3 Bellamy stabbed Clarke in the back when he manipulated her, crossed the line into verbally abusive and took her prisoner to hand over to Pike that would interrogate her and then put a bullet into her head. Only ship with I can think off that has a foot into canon and some fanbase without betrayal currently is Raven and Bellamy, that despite Bob's and Lindsey's support is very unlikely. I think what matters with regard to the show for me, is if the show can make a pairing work. With Echo they are at least already putting in some more work towards trying to redeem herself for her betrayal than they did with Bellamy betraying Clarke in S3. She outright apologized to him for it in front of her people, and explained her actions. They have made Kane and Abby work, so I won't rule out Echo and Bellamy, though I think Bellamy deserves absolutely no one after his actions in S3. For other couples I honestly don't care for Harper and Monty. It came out of nowhere and Harper is such a non-character despite having been here since S1. One episode with Ontari gave us more than we gotten about Harper (I would argue Harper and Monty is currently a non-working pairing. I don't think many if anyone really cares about their relationship truly?). Murphy though tends to be a bit of a VIP. His scenes here were good, and it is refreshing to have someone around that isn't all up in the 'big picture', and make decisions based on something that isn't "For My People". Him and Emori remain rather sweet but I don't want them to be off at their own. I think it would be more interesting with having them around one of the two narrative areas (Polis and Arkadia currently). Jaha and Jasper are of zero interest to me, and the former really should had face some sort of consequences, but in true the 100 fashion, if they are Arkers, they have a ridiculously high chance of avoiding any real consequences as long as they brood. Finn being the only real exception but the actor wanted off the show badly. I don't see what Jaha as a character can really offer, except maybe some stuff about Becca/ALIE that the rest don't know. I honestly don't get why he is allowed to wander around by any of the factions on the show. In not liking the 'foreshadowing' of Raven having trouble with her leg. I get that Raven didn't solve her issues last season. She just made herself immune to the pain so it is the show actually having continuity. But for once, here I would be absolutely fine if the show didn't. Would be nice if Raven could be a badass mechanic with scenes of friendship and also involvement in the moral decision making instead of another trip down paintown Lexa's army caused over S1 and S2 maybe the grand total of 40ish deaths of the Arkers vs. 300 warriors + 300 defence force + the bridge blowing up a bunch, and unknown amount of civilians (minimum 18 from Finn + the village burnt down in S1 + the peace negotiations Jasper opened fire on + the deaths caused by ALIE that Jaha brought to Polis). The numbers of casualties for the Grounder side is at least over 7 times higher, if not 10 times than what the Grounders have inflicted on the Arkers. Bellamy and Kane has caused the death of 3 times more Arkers within the first half of S1 than the all Grounders managed throughout the entire series. So it is in my opinion rather disingenuous to present it that way. Not to mention they have numerous times been told to leave the lands they are invaders on. They were even offered free passage but they decided that it was their lands now. And lets be real here, Finn caused his own death when he gunned down 18 innocent civilians. Saying Lexa caused his death is like saying the death of the serial killer Pee Wee is the fault of the judge, and not his actions of murdering a bunch of innocent people. Though the judge in our world wasn't going to be murdered by his own people if he let Pee Wee go, unlike Lexa whom we were explicitly told would be killed if she didn't demand Finn's death.
  11. Well Maya recovered pretty fast and easy when she got transfusion despite the significant radiation damage she took. My guess is Nightblood transfusion for Clarke and wupti! Back in action and possibly radiation proof. Luna must also have some sort of purpose. In S3 she wasn't really worth anything. We learned she ran away and upon learning most of the Grounders were going to be enslaved to an AI and she could help? She chose to keep on hiding and leaving them all to be slaves whose bodies would wither and die. What that episode did when it comes down to it, was introduce someone else with Nightblood that can be conveniently around when plot needs it later on.
  12. Furryfury, I think Finn was actually Jason's self-insert so Jason was the driving force. The first draft of the pilot written by Jason has been around for a while online, and Finn comes across as such an enormous self-insert that its crazy. Like he is the only male character that is often refereed to by his looks or "roguish attributes", with frequent mentions of Clarke being physically drawn to him (including because Finn remains Clarke of her dad wtf?). Wells is the only other male character given some noticeable mentions, in so far that Clarke and him are exes (if I remember right). Any other male character pretty nondescript/given no real attention. The original triangle seems to have been outlined as between Wells/Clarke/Finn, with a very clear favour towards Finn. Like it is a bit crazy how much the script dedicates to outlining Finn as this handsome adventurous guy that Clarke is so so drawn to. Raven was Finn's mom if I remember right. Then somewhere it got to be a love triangle with Finn in the middle (well sorta. We know Clarke backed the hell away when she found out about Raven, but Finn was clearly still wanting to be with Clarke). Which only re-enforces the self-insert aspect in my opinion.
  13. They might seem unbelievable, but currently all the slides posted except one have been replaced with an image saying "Media not Displayed. This image has been removed in response to a report from the copyright holder" (bolded is mine). That made the leaks look a lot more legitimate. Then there is also the fact, that while there been several 'script pages' floating around lately, these are the only ones with full on proper notations e.g. the scene count listed on both sides and the approximately right date for when it was made (the other script(s) have been failing on those accounts). Also it contains the proper annotations for locked script and edits. For those that have not seen them, and interested the 8 leaked script pages are below in the tags; Only other thing that comes to mind is that it is a purposeful leak of some troll slides? It seems like a waste of time, but to be this sloppy? Another thing working against it is there is some bad spelling one or two places, which there really shouldn't be. It also seems a bit strategic considering how the leak ends
  14. I have a bunch: Actual female friendship Increased screen time for female characters to off set the male dominance in S3. Let Clarke be the protagonist instead of struggling with having as much screen time as a male character. Buffy was able to have a good balance. Clarke gets criticized constantly for her decisions as a leader, let the same happen to Bellamy. This should particularly happen after S3 where he had more of a chance to stand on his own, and he failed catastrophically as a leader. Everyone pretending like he did great is nonsense and free pass, that he seems to get through the sheer fact that he is the male character with most screen time on a CW show. People should doubt him or even resist his decisions after what he did in Season 3, where he proved himself to be short sighted, reckless with the lives of others and leading with his anger instead of putting others first. Actual expanded and good story line for Indra that allows Adina to flex her immense acting abilities. More Kane and Indra interaction. They have such good chemistry. Stop with the whining at Clarke to come up with a plan, to then whine when she does, and then berate her for taking action after pushing for it. There is a balance to be had with people questioning her decisions and people coming across as whiny brats. Have some moment of lightness. Unrelenting shit being constantly piled on the characters we follow get tiresome. Big One: Make Bellamy admit that it was wrong for him to backtrack on his support for Clarke taking care of herself. Admit she doesn't owe him her mental health, and that she shouldn't be sorry for actually trying to take care of herself instead of being his nursemaid. Let Clarke call out Bellamy for betraying her and handing her over to get killed by Pike. Honestly the fact that she never was allowed to do that, is probably a strong indication of the heavy fanservice towards the bellarke fandom. I think it was the writers intention to let Bellamy stay supportive of Clarke, but during the hiatus they got lots of tweets from bellarke fans saying Bellamy should be mad at Clarke leaving, and so they caved and made him be like that. Acknowledgement and consequences of the full scope of Bellamy's atrocities - in particularly him attempting to butcher a village of civilians, murder of an innocent man that was just operating an elevator and putting sick people - that they invited to get treatment - in prison. Monty's involvement in this and insight in why he went along. Perhaps mention his age (he is 15-16 i think), and delve into how wanting to not be in conflict with his mom and have a bond/relationship with her again made him start doing things he normally wouldn't. Let the characters breath and digest things that has happened. You can still have fast pace story telling without sacrificing the emotional character beats and proper character development. Give. Raven. A. Proper. Story line. Let her be brilliant and resilient yes, but also involve her in decision making process. Let us see Raven actually decide on some things, instead of doing what she is being told. This show says it likes to test their characters trough though moral choices, but Raven is rarely given those. She helps facilitate them but never is an active decision maker in it. Abby and Clarke scenes. Give me reasons for rooting for the Sky People besides them being the protagonists. Maybe some proper acknowledgement from the Arkers that they been acting like invaders? Refugees don't settle down on taken land and declare it their own, and then defend it through heavy weaponry. Refugees try to assimilate. Use Murphy better. He is such a wild card in connection to the others, and placing him on the outside makes poor use of that. Clarke acknowledging and apologizing for her shitty actions towards Niylah. Clarke allowed to be mad and horrified over the war crimes committed by her friends instead of having to pretend it was no big deal so the audience won’t hold it against them. Respectful handling of Clarke’s sexuality (lol) Jarod and Bryan to not look like they would rather eat glass than act like they are in love and attracted to each other. The show to be better at handling racially loaded story lines.
  15. The unity con this weekend had a lot of the cast members in attendance. Some questions answered gave a bit of an idea of what to expect for S4 Sadly despite having low ticket sales, the con was very strict with allowing any audience members to stream any panels and so on, which has resulted in some people writing different answers to the same question or with some variation which changes the meaning. Tried to filter for what sources seemed most credible and which were less likely to post what they wanted to hear/lie for fandom reasons. So aimed for proper websites or fan sources of the chill variety, and not the cray cray blogs/extreme fans that go nuts on actresses/characters and display bigotry and hate (so no hypable and their ilk). Also periscopes when possible From Eliza’s panel: When asked about this S4 finale in comparison to the others Eliza said Source periscope . via @TalkNerdyWithUs . via @TalkNerdyWithUs via theprpress (As a Clarke fan I do love seeing her trying to manipulate the pieces towards her goal. Manipulation in general is not a flattering trait. I feel it adds a “not as white/goodie two shoes” layer to Clarke that it is one of her go to tools for trying to make things go towards the goal she considers to be the best for the people she cares for) When asked if her grieving (of Lexa)will be destructive or constructive; Eliza said that Clarke will be going through constructive mourning rather than destructive Via StarryMag – found at periscope Raven and Clarke will connect in a way that's surprising. Via TalkNerdyWithUs (Fuck yes! Female friendships were near non-existent last season. Even though it made 100% sense for Raven, Clarke and Octavia to bond over their losses and experiences, but there was more focus M/M and M/F friendship scenes. Now they say in a surprising way, but honestly I don’t think it will be that surprising unless it is Princess Mechanic) “The 100 is a war against nature” - via starrymag – talknerdywithus About season 4: We will see Clarke individually, outside of any relationships. "She’s an independent woman.“ - via talknerdywithus (This question was one of contention cause different versions wrt answer) Someone asked if she’ll get new relationships and someone coughed Bellamy’s name Eliza said “that’s yet to be seen” and mumbled something about that she’s gotta stop killing people/she’s cursed http://elizataylorsource.tumblr.com/post/155926690405/eliza-taylor-unity-day-highlights-pt-2 (Another quote that went a bit crazy on SM, cause a lot just quoted the first part of Eliza’s answers, others also presented it as she was asked directly about Bellamy instead of answering the general question.) There will be a return to the co-leadership of Bellamy and Clarke (via talknerdywithus On a personal note, Eliza also talked about the body positivity she has worked to spread and the industry pressure to lose weight. I wanna give her props cuz even within the 100 fandom, she gets fat shamed by certain folks constantly (called a whale, fatty, a cow and the like) for not shipping a certain ship as romantic. And the hate she has gotten for that after S3 has been immense and absolutely batshit. Despite of all that, she still keeps on trying. With many shows there are often rumors about someone or more wanting to leave, but it wouldn't surprise me if some of the actors and actresses want to get off this show, with strong reasons being the actual fandom is terrible and has been right from the start. Lindsey was supposed to have a panel with Eliza but got delayed cause of filming so no Lindsey/Eliza panel. I tried to find some quotes from M&G but her tag and related tweets were flooded because apparently she said bellarke is boring, so got a hate wave sent her way and she decided to take a twitter break as a consequence of that. Which brings me to that if u have twitter (and so inclined) please report these two: Bellarke1100 and bellclarey1 (examples of their grossness towards Lindsey here and here and here and here and here So far fandom got some of the hate removed from other twitter accounts by reporting or tweeting them, but these two accounts/nastiness are still around. From Bob “Somebody asked who Bellamy would take a chip for—he said Octavia was the only one, and then amended it to include Clarke. He said with Clarke it wasn’t necessarily a romantic thing, Bellamy just thinks the world needs Clarke more than they need him, so he would sacrifice himself for the sake of their people. “It’s not a romantic thing, it’s pragmatic.” Bellamy also thinks Clarke is a better leader.” Said that s3 was initially supposed to be 13 eps and they found out partially through filming that it was 16, so lots needed to be rewritten (Not S4 info, but I felt like this explains some of the mess that was S3. This was previously heavy spec, but definitely confirmed. Like Clarke left with the flame in episode 9(?) to only return the exact same place a few episodes later, where nothing was achieved besides getting Raven out of ALIE’s clutches. The Luna episode was pointless as she decided to (again) not to help her people and just hide despite it meaning the enslavement of most of the Grounders, the Demons episode with Emerson undid some character notes for Clarke and was just shitty, and the Pike episode was a waste as well) Said pacing for s4 is good because they were told they have 13 eps and still have 13 eps (The source for most of Bob is a bit iffy, as they also tweeted out proven fake stuff, but these parts were verified by others account) Said he felt Bellamy was xenophobic which he doesn't like about the character—he doesn't really like or accept the grounders (I hope this can end with this nonsense in his fandom that bellamy was just sad/in pain and not xenophobic. Bob's mom is from the Philippines – a country that suffered over 250 years of colonialism. It makes sense that Bob wasn’t thrilled with bellamy going all let’s kill the civilian natives for their land!!!1) Sachin Sahel (Jackson) Jackson took the chip at the beginning of 3.06—he thinks that while Jackson was running tests on it and determined it was safe, he realized that everything sucks and he might as well try it. Which is why he is so adamant about it with Abby, because he knows she's upset too From the Delinquents panel There's more of a mutual respect between the grown ups and the youngins. Via starrymag --- Bonus: Bob looking cute with Tasya (Echo whom there been some unconfirmed spoilers that he will interact a fair share with) source pic of the (best) healthy and underrated ship involving Bellamy (assuming S2 bellamy, cuz S3 bellamy can choke on a rock) (they look just cute as hell) Lindsey and Eliza doing some gesture that is probably pop culture related but im to old to get And fan account of Lindsey at one of the panels (same fan also met with Eliza and Christopher) http://thedrdonut.tumblr.com/post/155929035287/lindsey-morgan-deserves-all-of-the-love-in-the Which wow. Lindsey has talked before about some of the issues with wearing the brace, but this is definitely some more
  16. What an absolute load of ignorant bullshit. Like the Clexa fandom doesn't have the highest amount of female bisexuals out of any ship on the show by an enormous margin. Again and again, bisexuals and other members of LGBTQ community have tried to explain this to the painfully straight ignorant folks in the bellarke fandom. It is a recurring and damaging stereotype regarding bisexual woman that they always go back to men after a short stop in Girls Town. It is basically Part II, of the BYG trope. Lesbian dies as sign of F/F = bad, bisexual woman goes back to dudes, lives and is happy, and thus Male/Female relationship is shown as the right relationship that leads to happiness. This is how the full trope has been told for the past 60 years. This is fact. Now I know the bellarke fandom tried to re-write media history, by making a list of around 15 shows, where they tried to cherry pick the few shows where the bisexual female didn't end up with a man, in order to "debunk" bisexuals and lesbians as wrong. Even went as far as including lesbians and listing them as bisexuals in order to slant the results. Now, no matter how much it annoys you and the bellarke fandom, it is a problem in media that female bisexuals are often shown as ending up with men and/or their last partner(s) were men when the show ends. To say that isn't bi-phobic lmao. Only ignorant idiots would think that or well homophobic ones seeking to silence wlw for their own personal comfort. Now that isn't new problem that when members of minority group X expressed concern over matter Y relating to a member of their minority group, that straight white folks pop up and accuse them of being the very things they are voicing concern about. Doesn't make it any less disgusting. Ugh. For the trailer it sort of basically went as I expected, and not as I hoped. I was thinking Clarke and Bellamy would try to unite the Grounders to work with them (with the inclusion of the latter being utterly ridiculous). I reckon the Grounders will be sceptical over their claims, and it is not a good look on this show that it will be the "more civilized" colonizing force trying to lead/save the ignorant natives. Particularly considering the death count with regard to the Grounders at the hands of The Arkers is like 9 times larger? Add in the complete mess of their belief system/culture after the Arkers coming as a consequence of one of them bringing ALIE into their mist. For the good stuff, I hope they will utilize Raven more, in an non-suffering capacity and also Murphy as someone bringing a completely different perspective and way of doing things. I enjoyed Roan so good to see him back, but Luna was such a dud so don't give a damn about her. I been keeping a bit tabs on Adina's shooting, and I really really hope the writers will finally utilize her abilities. Indra could definitely play well of Roan if they get any meaty scenes. Adina is hands down the strongest actor of the entire cast, but there hasn't at any point been any proper material for her to act from. I held out a small hope that the writers would actually deal with Bellamy's action in S3. But it seems like Bellamy wanting to go kill sleeping kids and old people is ignored, likewise him putting sick people in prison and stopping them from escaping, or the murdering of a man who was just operating an elevator. Like that casual way he killed or attempted to kill innocent people is not something that should be hand waved. The show should address it properly. Get into how in those kind of situations and high stress, the creation of 'them' as less and therefore easier to kill is something that happens, and show some damn consequences. But no. Bellamy is the reformed Bad Boy that suffered greatly from Man Pain, and therefore standard misogynistic story telling dictates he gets (another) pass. Particularly if he squeezes a tear or makes some sad eyes. I can't believe how badly they screwed his character up. And it seems the fall out on Clarke's character will continue. Clarke back in S1 used to be the one calling him out, but her character got thrown underneath the bus and made into a passive little woman for Bellamy to whine at in S3, and now in S4 it will apparently be ignored. I used to love Clarke and Bellamy's interaction, but S3 screwed that up, and the writers just hand waving so many huge issues will only make their sense less believable and more annoying considering the lessening of Clarke to facilitate it. With Octavia assassin story line I am a bit confused. I understand that The Arkers were never her people. They made her live under the floor for 16 years and then placed her in prison for existing. The actions in S3 further alienating her, but joining that Clan? Also becoming an assassin just seems a bit too much like the writers trying to be cool, instead of thinking what makes sense character-wise. Sure I could see Octavia joining a Grounder Clan as a fighter, but an assassin? No. Assassins don't only target "bad people", they also kill people that are an inconvenience for the person in charge. Octavia actively fought back against Pike's and Bellamy's killing of innocents but now she will be doing the same. Just under the guise of it being "orders and her feeling lost". I think this trailer just managed to annoy me, because it reminded me of this show that has character on that I like/liked, but won't fix the issues that plagues it.
  17. If you think about how long a simulation last inside Shaw's head, it is probably around a day whereas probably briefer in real time. But for Shaw in her mind at this point, she has experienced this type of simulation and blown her own brains out every day for over 18 years. I'm so with you about wanting more time to truly explore the effects of this type of psychological torture. Like how can Shaw after all of this ever really be sure she isn't in a simulation still? For episode placement, I think they moved it around so I think it was the wiser choice. Now we as an audience know what happens to Shaw every day that she is with Samaritan. To me it induces a stronger type of urgency, because I now know just what she is going through, and I god damn want Team Machine to come get her the fuck out of there more than ever. On a completely different note, there was several scenes that punched me in the feelz so to say. One that hit me super hard on re-watch though was Sim!Reese's death. On first watch it didn't really hit me as I was at that point going yeah for sure this isn't real. On re-watch I got to more just be in the scene and feel a stronger impact. It is just good work from both. Shaw is lying to Finch and a panicked Root and the fatally wounded Reese - ever the god damn fighter - is trying to reach for his gun. The "don't" followed by the shaky exhale and "no please don't" from Shaw... To Shaw inside the simulation what a nightmare it must be. To kill your friends over and over again while slowly believing that you are under Samaritan control, and you just can't control yourself and not kill your friends. That dreading realization hitting Shaw every time leading her to off herself, though I suspect the earlier simulations were probably almost comically off, and Shaw was like lol this is dumb as fuck, you gotta do better. Another thing I wonder, just how often is Shaw encouraged to go to the Machine's location? I think from Root it happens 3 times? With the last time being the one after Sim!Reese dies, and Shaw instead takes Sim!Root to the constructed safe-place.
  18. As you bring up 24 simulations a day is just insane with regards to stress. I doubt Shaw from the beginning even had a safe place. I think it took shape as simulations kept on tearing her down piece by piece, and she then constructed it in defence. I think it is likely it started out with the roundabout, particularly as it represents Shaw overcoming something physical, which is a part she is far more comfortable with. I disagree with regards to your first paragraph though. Shaw (used to) consider herself as someone that doesn't really have those feelings type of feelings i.e. love, affection, concern, fear. It is not because she is afraid of feelings, it is just she has viewed herself as someone completely unable to feel those type of emotions and attributed to her self-diagnosed AXIS II personality. Then during her time with Team Machine she has (grudgingly) come to admit that she is capable of caring for people. Her sacrifice in ITE is essentially the culmination of that. The selection of Root makes sense to me and not based on being for the sake of ship, but on the characters and relationships. The safe place consisted of two things. One related to Shaw overcoming something physical. The roundabout made her throw up easily, so she just kept at it for sun up to sun down despite constantly retching since it made her so angry that her body wouldn't do what she wanted. Then there is an emotional component. Just which person could fill that in? For the simulation to work best it had to be someone alive since someone dead running about would be a huge red flag. Out of Shaw's mother, Reese, Finch, Fusco, Gen and Root, I do believe the latter is the one she has formed the type of connection to that could serve as safe-place best. Disregarding romantic aspects to begin with, Root is someone that has complete faith in Shaw. In a simulation where she is constantly made to doubt herself, and her own loyalty to Team Machine, Root is the person that would be a total blind believer in Shaw. This is also sort of illustrated in how when Shaw is 'waking up' after her subway train surgery, she overhears Finch doubting Shaw and Root defending Shaw and re-affirming her belief in Shaw. And not only that, she is also someone that would never give up on Shaw, whereas revealed we see that Shaw do believes Finch and thereby extension Reese would do that. I think as a person for Shaw to select as her 'safe place' when it comes to her mental/emotional well-being, Root represents and offers aspects Shaw direly needs/needed in order to keep resisting. I.e. complete and utter total near fanatic faith in Shaw's ability to have resisted. Another thing if you take a look at how Root treats Shaw in the simulation. Now Root is made up by Samaritan and then been throughout simulations adjusted more and more closely to how Shaw sees her based on how Shaw has interacted with Sim!Root. It wouldn't surprise me either if Sim!Root is also adjusted to act more like what Shaw and Samaritan think Shaw needs Root to be. Root was definitely acting a tad OOC as well. What does Root do here in the simulation when she isn't pushing for Shaw to take her to the Machine? Root is shown to physically offer sex, which is definitely something Shaw uses to enjoy herself and de-stress. Another part is she offered at several instances comfort and notably post-coital she talks about wanting to take revenge for what Samaritan 'did to Shaw'. That is definitely something that speaks to Shaw as a person, and the simulation has Root appealing to that aspect while simultaneously showing anger on behalf of what Shaw has endured. For someone like Shaw that is under such immense and complete mental and emotional duress, those things serve as hmm maybe life lines are too strong of a concept, but something of a crutch? Shaw isn't big on romance or romantic relationships, but those type of things can and do provide Shaw with some 'stability' and help in dealing with the duress she is under. Notably Root is offering support in a way that is acceptable to Shaw as well in the simulation. Most of the time she is doing things in reaction to things Shaw expresses or things that fall within 'stuff that appeals to Shaw; sex, vengeance, food (Root going out to fetch some). Putting all these things together, I can't see whom else it could be but Root when it comes to taking a person to essentially represent the emotional and mental safe place of Shaw and offering those physical components. Reese, Fusco and Finch would all be way to weird with regards to the comfort or sex, and they wouldn't offer the same things as Root in the same way without it seeming completely out of wack. Furthermore that is also why I partly think Root is the one Shaw can't kill. Root in a way represents Shaw breaking as she is the one person that wouldn't believe Shaw to ever break. Therefore Shaw killing Root is essentially equivalent with Shaw giving in. YMMV of course. The TL:DR version: For what Shaw needed and would help her the most when it came to having a person be her emotional and mental safe-place, Root is the one most qualified for it. Both in terms of what she can offer as a character inside the simulations (while remaining relatively in character) and also what she represents in regards to Shaw. A re-watch really makes things so much more obvious. At the top of my head there are several things that are just 'factually' wrong. Root was doing regular numbers. Root using one gun instead of two. Root had an apartment. Shaw knows about Arthur Claypool yet Finch(?) started explaining to her whom he was. Root should know about Shaw's old scars on her back but in the simulation she didn't. And I bet there are more that I didn't catch. Despite my initial viewing, this episode has really grown on me fast when looking closer on it. Very very well crafted.
  19. On first watch I was feeling a bit underwhelmed. The pacing seemed odd, and the reveal in the end made it clear why. It had however robbed me of being fully immersed into the episode on first watch. But then I thought more and more about the episode and re-watched and there are so many good things to it that I like it so much more now. From what I gathered, Samaritan was running different scenarios on Shaw, where it was observing how she would react and guiding her towards giving up the information it wants. So it was this sort of mix of how Shaw thinks Team Machine act and react, and what Samaritan knows and thinks. I reckon the simulation been constantly tweaked in order to push Shaw towards giving Samaritan what it wants, and also make it harder for her to 'break it'. Whenever the whole blurry, high pitch 'reality break' happened for Shaw, it seemed to be when Samaritan directly manipulated the simulation in a very overt manner, and tried to control/push Shaw towards certain behaviour or outcome. And there in lies the beauty of this episode, as it reveals a shit ton of Shaw's emotional landscape on a level we never had before. Shaw isn't someone that is very verbal with her emotions, at least not outside regarding food, anger or sex. We usually learn about her emotions in how she cares and protect for certain people for example how she spoils bear with new dog collar and huge treats or how she is very very insistent on going after and protect members of Team Machine + Gen. But this episode we got a truckloads of information both in the form of verbal and in how Shaw imagines Team Machine to react to her 'homecoming'. In Shaw's head Root would never give up on her and would place herself firmly in Shaw's camp. However she views Harold as someone that would had given up based on what knowledge they had. She also sees John as someone that would pick up on her being off, then offer to sit down and have coffee with her and give her his support. Without a doubt she has broken the simulation at different points and Samaritan managed to improve upon it each and every time, but killing Root? That, and giving up the Machine location are the two things they can't push her to. Shaw chose to make her safe place a mix of the one location where she physically pushed herself beyond reason as a child, and the person she cares for the most - Root. I do wonder just how cognizant Shaw was of it being a simulation. I feel like there was subtle hints sprinkled throughout it all, and it is a bit up to interpretation if Shaw knows on some level, or if she truly believed it all to be real and chose to shot herself in the head opposed to risk killing Root. The mental and emotional strength that Shaw possesses is monstrous. 6741 times she has been through that, and killed herself in the end in order to resist Samaritan. Shaw is without a doubt a total beast. One thing I found funny though was that in Shaw's mind, Root's nicknames for her became more 'variated' and she didn't even bat an eye or as usually an eye roll. Like Root straight out called her "my beautiful girl" and Shaw was just kept talking and enjoying Root's attention lol. Another thing I noticed and found sort of endearing is for all their 'roughness' their post coital scene was awfully soft and sweet. Minor thought, I do wonder if Shaw in one of the simulations inadvertently did give up Root etc. or did something that lead to the events of Asylum. As in she thought she was escaping or the like, but in reality she was under one of the simulations. For the acting, Shahi and Acker really blew it out of the park. Shahi really sold everything with how run down she looked and the emotional switches.
  20. I'm no medical expert, but if a person becomes brain dead don't they need to vary post-haste set up with machines assisting them in order to not die? I am not quite sure what to make of this episode because stuff happened and yet not much happened? The past 7 or so episodes can be boiled down to wandering around with the chip, followed by bringing it back to where it was taken from. That is basically it with just added that people in Arkadia and Polis been chipped and they didn't even spend proper time developing or exploring those parts. I don't know, with us being 1 episode away from the finale I feel a bit sad by all the missed potential. I can not for the life of me make sense of the AI story line past the superficial aspects of ALIE 1 wants to get people into CoL to get stronger. But that part goes against her programming as her goal should not be to be stronger but to do what she considers the best for humanity. The show touched a bit upon the idea that no pain = the best, but never quite went there? There is so much meat to explore on what it means to be human, and what would an AI consider to be the best for humanity as a whole in a post-apocalyptic world. Like would the AI push for unity among all surviving pockets of civilization? Would it select certain groups as the superior and aid them instead? Or maybe it would do it's own form of eugenics to create the 'best human race'. There are so many different angles but here it just seems like ALIE thinks what? Pain = bad = conflict so lets remove it by making them sit and meditate all day? Also people becoming zombies just rob them of all personality, which just makes them very generic for our none-zombie characters to play off. Like it makes it hard to create an interesting dynamic between them. The show also seems to be cleaning house with any named and semi known Grounder characters. We got Indra and Emori left now? And maybe Nyko somewhere. Not to mention how they completely dismantled Grounder culture and beliefs by making it all about an AI and relate it to the Arkers. Clarke being all I trust Bellamy... sigh. A lot of fandom thought Clarke started trusting Lexa to soon (I would argue Clarke only trusted Lexa as far as she would do what she considered the best for her people), but here Clarke isn't even allowed 1 second of mistrust despite that Bellamy betrayed her trust and was attempting to hand her over to Pike. I am completely surprised over just how much the show doesn't seem to think Bellamy should be redeemed or really did anything wrong with regards to the Grounders, Octavia or Clarke. The show got a lot of praise for presenting different narratives and motivations in regards of very questionable actions, but I feel like they bought too much into their own hype with the writers saying "it is all about perspectives". Like I am sure a pyromaniac got a perspective for why that hospital building should be put on fire, but it sure as fuck doesn't excuse his actions for then doing it. That said I always enjoyed Murphy and Bellamy playing off each other. I just wish this season wasn't such a terrible mess. Indra was the MVP for me in this episode with how she even went to save her zombiefied BFF Kane from the explosion. Clarke ending up taking the chip has been quite obvious from the start. My money used to be one that they would find some of the black blood Becca had that somehow was still fine (cuz plot!) but now they will just use Ontari instead. Not surprised on Jasper being chipped. Even without knowing 3x16 spoilers the hints were quite heavy. I have really missed having Clarke interact with her mother but I gotta say chip!Abby was not what I was dying for lol. That entire scene was brutal. It also shows again whom Clarke has become after landing on the Ground. She knows if she gives in everyone would be lost, so she doesn't give in. I just hope in S4 the show will allow the characters to breath and lets us see the effects these things have on them proper. Saying a character is compartmentalizing when they seem to barely bat an eye is becoming a bit of a stretch. It feels too much like they are just doing these things cause plots demands it and it demands it now. Side complaint: The show has really shoved away female/female interaction in this season when it comes to Abby/Clarke and female friendships. Like the show always prioritized M/M friendships and then M/F, but we used to have some friendship interaction between our female characters. This season it is reduced to hugging goodbye. All friendship stuff has been purely between two dudes or m/f, and it bugs (I'm disregarding Clarke/Lexa here despite that yeah they did interact as ~something platonically in a way but it was always tinged with something more if that makes sense. It was not like Clarke/Raven interaction). For a show that likes to brag over being pro-women etc. it is bit side-eye worthy how little they allow them to interact one on one, and in conversations that aren't focused completely about giving ALIE plot information. Compared to S2, I'm not feeling that much in suspense. I think it is because ALIE is such a poorly defined villain and so her objectives and just what the heck is CoL etc. I feel like we are missing a whole mountain of information and exploration of things concerning her that we for some reason didn't get despite almost half a season of wandering in the woods. The next episode seems to be fairly predictable based on what we know in so far that I'm guessing the Arkers left will try to hold the top floor while Clarke goes in using transfusion from Ontari. Jasper will screw up the kill switch thing but something something ALIE 2 will help shit happen or something X Y Z will mess up CoL. Is it just me or aren't we missing some build up to S4 with regards to 'new dangers'? I don't think I missed some clues or build up to be honest (though please share if there are anything). I'm guessing at the end of next episode we will be getting something out of the blue that will hint at danger to come in S4. I couldn't tell because of the editing and lighting (the directing for this episode was pretty bad imo) but did Jaha fatally shot or not? Also not quite sure if Roan is alive or not?
  21. People aren't forgetting. They just aren't buying fake equivalencies that the show and some people try to set up in order to excuse Bellamy. Clarke and Lexa warn people? The spotter watching the village still calls in the strike when seeing people leave -> people still die (albeit fewer than if no warning) -> MW knows there is an insider -> Bye bye disabling of acid fog -> Mount Weather Harvest the delinquents while safe and cosy behind their acid fog, maybe shot another missile or 2 for funsies or as punishment for trying to stand up to them. Either way, there was no good option. However there was a complete urgency of a choice needed to be made as the missile strike would had happened no matter what. There was a genuine moral dilemma here, where the people in charge had to pick between who lives and who dies, unlike with Bellamy. With TonDC, Clarke and Lexa prioritized Bellamy life over those people, because they considered his role to be of a larger contribution and significance to the majority of people. Lets see what happens if Bellamy don't go on a murder spree on a peace keeping force of 300 Grounders: ??? High probability of peace between Grounders and Arkers. Less man pain Likely less Bellamy treating Clarke like garbage Likely less Bellamy blaming other people for his fuck ups Less Bellamy guilt tripping Clarke Less Bellamy whining to Octavia over being angry his role in getting Lincoln executed like 2 days after his death Probably no dead Lincoln Bellamy likely doesn't gun down two envoys so that is subtracting another war crime from his column Bellamy likely doesn't go into a village to murder a bunch of civilians Much less instability back at Polis. Without Bellamy and Pike causing a mess Lexa would be doing her best to aid the Arkers. Likely more able to be on the ball regarding ALIE as not distracted by trying to mass murder innocent people 'cause xenophobia and man pain ??? Genuinely struggling to find the negative side to this. There is a very important thing with all of this. There was no intimidate threat to the Arkers from those Grounders, and Bellamy thinking there was doesn't make it ok? Unlike the TonDC missile that was something that was going to happened and decisions had to be made immediately. Also you completely brush over that Bellamy lead a team into a village to kill children and elderly that were the remaining family members from many of the Grounders he killed a few days ago. If Octavia haven't intervened he would had committed another war crime, and this time Pike wasn't even by his side. Bellamy took point there on his own. Like how can that in any manner be painted in a grey tone? What exactly can that be compared to regarding actions of Clarke? Lexa? Jasper? Heck even Murphy? No one ever gone as far as Bellamy did there that we are supposed to be able to root for, and the show and a bunch of people do ignore that part completely. Others don't and therefore find him irredeemable. For some Bellamy first whole aid Pike into getting weapons and power and genocide of the Grounders were enough to make him irredeemable. For others it was him going to murder civilians in their sleep later on 'cause corn. For some it was the way he treated Clarke like trash. Others it is his actions with Octavia. Some it is him placing sick people into a prison cell away from medical care. Some it is his role in imprisoning Lincoln and his execution. For some it is his horrible attitude towards people and/or woe-is-me crap coupled with lack of proper remorse over his xenophobic genocidal ways. Like there isn't just one thing to pick from, and it is likely combination of these factors that push many people into considering Bellamy to be irredeemable. The show wanted to make Bellamy go dark this season (iirc so did Bob), but there is such a thing as too far, and the show definitely went there. And Bellamy has come totally off easy. He has just brooded a bit, whined and blamed people, some teary eyes and Clarke is right there patting him on the back and comforting him. Never mind she couldn't look Finn in the eyes after he killed 18 innocent Grounders. When Bellamy goes and butchers 100's and attempts to kill more, she gets stuck being his cheerleader. She isn't allowed to call him out on his atrocious actions towards the Grounders or shitty treatment of her or Octavia. Finn died for his actions, but Bellamy? He gets moral support and hugs and people not bringing up 90% of the shit he did with the worst being Octavia beating him up and some stern words. A dude being sad and brooding for a few episodes is not remotely related to being worthy of redemption.
  22. Honestly at this point I wouldn't even mind something as corny as that if only for the reaction of the Bellarke fandom that remains the worst fandom I have ever encountered in over a decade. One would think with Lexa dead that they would just stay in their lane and enjoy their couple interacting but no. Talk about wanting to murder Alycia Debnam Carey because "people are still talking about her", how they ship Bullexa (Bullets/Lexa), constantly rubbing it into Clexa fans that Lexa is dead or making 'jokes' about dead lesbians have just made me want nothing good for their fandom. Not to mention how viciously they attacked Eliza Taylor for her pro Clexa talk at Wondercon with accusing her of being drunk or on drugs. Then add in on top several of their big accounts deliberately trying to sabotage/interfere with the LGBTfans Deserve Better movement... I suspect with your comment you are I actually think there is a big chance of Bellamy being the central hero regarding the season finale (with Clarke also doing her part). The show doesn't seem to think he needs a redemption as it was just "about perspectives" and well Bellamy has looked sad for a while now... but the show now seems to swing the pendulum regarding his character from one extreme to another, and I think it will now swing back over to Action Hero Bellamy "McClane" Blake the closer we come to the end of this season.
  23. Devon Bostick has landed a movie gig where he will star alongside with Tilda Swinton, Jake Gyllenhaal, Paul Dano and Steven Yeun. http://www.showbizjunkies.com/news/okja-cast-details-plot/ Marie, Lindsey and Eliza have all individually landed movie gigs as well. Eliza's being properly "the biggest" due to the people involved (Lena Headey, Daniel Webber, Brett Rice and Ben Feldman). From a writing view got Cary Fukunaga executive producing (Beast of No nation and True Detective S1), Matt Michnovetz (24 tv series) and more. Adina has signed on as (I think) main cast in another TV show as well. Unlike Underground, the article (going by memory because read it like 10 days ago) she will have a much larger role. A lot more side projects or main ones from the 100 cast this year than ever before (including RW with American Gods). Bob also wanted to guest star on iZombie but got denied by Rothenberg&Co according to some folks. Edited to add: Jared Josep (Miller) has joined Canadian show Saving Hope as a cast member as well.
  24. Another bottle episode and another missed opportunity. I am typically a sucker for bottle episodes because it is standard to then do some deep character exploration, emotional reflection from the characters and re-assessment of relationships. But on this show? Nah... at best they will dip their toe in the pond. It really hurts everything when the characters are not allowed to act as they should in regards of Bellamy's actions because it would damage the piss poor redemption they are throwing his way. Though it seems like they don't really think he needs to be redeemed, as he was just 'doing what he thought was right' or 'there are no good guys' or some other bullshit. Meh. At least last episode made the long running joke of Bellamy being bad in bed canon, to bad the show thinks some meta rant should replace proper characterization and character actions. Also bringing Emerson back and having him kill on of the Arkers totally undermines whatever was left of the whole "blood must not have blood" policy and philosophy attempt. There was just way to much stupid and again can Clarke be allowed to react properly instead of just taking it? The Polis part now match the Arker parts in being bad. Ontari is just too one note, and the plot makes people act way to stupid in order to make things go from A to B. I do wonder if how hard the wheels have come off relates to the more free reign Rothenberg got this season. In S1, he had 2 people basically co-showrunning with him BTS. In S2 there were over 20+ producers etc. that been downside to 6 in S3. Rothenberg had only 4 credits throughout 20+ years of writing before getting handed the 100. S1 and S2 had some issues (particularly early S1) but you can see the plot puppeteering characters around so clearly that it makes it hard to get immersed into any of the story lines. This episode for me was one of the worst. I was switching between boredom and being frustrated over stupidity and nonsensical "plot". The last few second reveal was just so silly and dumb. Ontari is that gullible I guess because Polis folks need to eat the chips as well. Honestly I don't think it would had been hard to create a proper in-world reason for why and how the chip could spread among the Grounders. It does have the holy symbol on it and all that.
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