100percent Pain

Yes a thousand times to this. Where is their outrage? Where is their refusal to be on the show with him? Mostly, where is their support of Amber? Hopefully it's there but just not being made public.

Absolutely! Amber shouldn't be trusted with Leah. She sleeps all day, is high on something, Emotionally abuses Leah with her "What about me?" guilt. Poor kid. Once Matt is gone, it won't be long before she moves some other bottom feeder into their lives. Amber may end up with limited, supervised visitation after this mess. Gary is paying close attention.

So If this assault of Tiffany happened in Vegas..was it the same night he tried to manipulate Amber into that evil trap of marrying him? She refused,he lost his shit, became pure evil before our eyes. Later on, goes into Tiffany's room and helps himself to her (takes his anger out on her). Then texts her later that he can't wait to get away from Amber. And pisses and moans how "he financed" their whole trip. Just trying to understand the 'when' of the assault as it pertains to the "wedding meltdown' Also, on 'Being Matt'...he and producers clearly had some issues. They hate him. But also appease him. This is all while knowing what he's been up to. It's sick. Matt is one creepy,nasty sociopath. MTV is greedy,and disgusting. Amber is weak and brainwashed, too stubborn and proud to say that she was played, and should have listened to everyone else. Gary needs to keep his daughter away for good until this maniac is gone. Edited to add: I just read that there were two Vegas trips. The first aired on TMOG-the wedding and Matt meltdown. The second around New Year's Eve...with the Tiffany assault.

After the way Maci took a hard stance against being on the show because of Farrah and her porno-flick, I wonder if there will be such a response about appearing on a show with a sociopathic sexual predator. Not to mention that now Amber is considering doing porn. Not likely...Remember when she chased the camera crew down over at the Edward's house "You can film me!!" "It's fine now"....it's all about the $$ and they called her bluff..You want out? Okay..we'll film your story without you. She won't try that again. But she should, they all should. (and not because of the porn)

This was a very disturbing episode for many reasons,and a very bizarre one too. I think this episode shows that this really needs to end. They have no story left to tell..and the ways that they are going about "creating stories" are ridiculous and irresponsible. Cate: The pig. it's been covered but I was horrified from start to finish with the way this pig was treated. She puts it down near a street..really you dumb ass.Then bringing it in to the house of dogs (that would likely kill and eat it before she could manage her lazy fat ass off the couch.) Then that creepy overnight segment and next day talk..while Tyler simmers in the corner. Pig is gone. Cate is a mess. Chilling. All because they were creating story.And here's a clue...Smoking weed all the time makes you really tired and zaps your ambition. There was a song in 2001 that covered this. Depressed..or fucking wasted? Tyler: STFU. you are not a star.you are a nobody. He can barely hide how much Cate grosses him out, Just in it for the $$ and the Teen Mom fame. Macy: Not one person believes that you didn't know you weren't pregnant. She lost me a couple of years back when she chased MTV down "You can film me now!" her little it's me or her(Farrah) didn't work. MTV was like "Okay" and My Hate for Ryan cannot even be described. I FF through him. He deserves prison. She wants to wait for the wedding so it can be a story!! and to get drunk(not that being pregnant stops her) Amber: Totally agree with poster who said that moms don't get to take a sick day. And that poor cat. Shame on that place for letting her take home a timid cat knowing she had a house full of dogs and a small child. A true rescue organization never would approve that adoption. A pet shop..yes..along with the sale of that giant cat tree and other supplies.All done for story. Poor cat. Her stalker boyfriend is beyond creepy.I hope Gary puts the kibosh on Leah having contact with him. Gary seems like he is stressed waiting for Leah to come home. Farrah: Are these actual humans in this family. Farrah is unhinged and a sociopath. She is like an alien being.Debra is a drunk and seems brain damaged, Sophia is an uncivilized beast. Simon is the (paid) boyfriend plant..who just wants his checks..he showed up...he's not doing any more than that. I'm starting to like him.

There are many favorite moments so I chose one(or two) for each Friend: Ross: When he was all relaxed and tranquilized after his rage.."Monica?!"..."so I took it". Also the "Fajitas!!..and then spelling out the L O V E...."EEEEE"...Ross has many..Too many to list ;) Rachel: Running around with the big box packing up Monica.."I'm just mad!" Monica and Rachel switching their famous lines"NOOOO" "I Know!" Phoebe:To Ross about pregnant Rachel "Good God man, don't anger it"..."Goodbye Ross...{forever} Joey:At Monica and Chandler's new house.. "You know I'm afraid of little girl ghosts"...On the boat to the Coast Guard "Get outta the way Jackass!! Monica: To Joey's Hot roommate: "I better not see you in the hall" What Did I Say About The Hall?!" Chandler:During the game for the apartment When Ross corrects Rachel about how old Chandler was when he touched a girl's breast: 14? No..19.. "Thanks,man"..So simple,but hilarious!!

Worst Rachel moments are ones where she sabotages Ross when he is happy..then pulls away. 1. She breaks up Ross and Julie,then almost immediately dumps him.(Yes the list was a jerk move,but talk it out)(She knew he was interested in her from the beginning..but acts like she never knew...she friggen said she knew!) 2. She flirts with him at the beach, convinces his date to shave her head,then when he chooses her..puts on brakes and writes that absurd letter. 3. Probably the worst one..crashes his wedding!! Then when his marriage falls apart..tells Monica "I don't want to start up all that Ross stuff again" Okay, so she chased down the pizza girl to give her Ross' number..but that doesn't really count as she was a one episode character..not someone that he had real feelings for, Rachel is selfish..and is one of those people who thinks.."I don't want him..but I don't want anyone else to have him either" Also, as a side note.. Jennifer Aniston's acting in the first few seasons was painful to watch; High pitched voice "Daddy..I'm a shoe!" Telling Mark "I told him I want a break..I don't want a break" (awkward delivery..like from a child) She improved, and became pretty funny..but the beginning was ROUGH!

Well part 3 was so chaotic that I could barely follow at times. While I came to like Bethenny on the second half of the season, I did not like her dominating the reunion. And I especially hated her blogs. Instead of adding her thoughts after the fact,she wrote like a producer of the show instead of a participant. She constantly remarked about how they were making great tv..and how entertaing it all was to watch. Above it all much? Very condescending. First,she claims in the beginning she wants to keep it real, and not fall for drama created for a storyline, going so far to shut Heather down abruptly..twice! Then, she admits in her last blog that there are very few real moments in the show. All of her quipping,and self-deprecation are really just to create her character,and get a laugh. I do find her funny though..so I guess she's on to something there. Best Moment That Could Have Been: While showing the clip of Luanne in her bra during the "Not really" and"Cool,Uncool"..I SO wanted to see that animated clip of the reunion with Luanne on the couch!!!! I kept picturing it!! Also..Luanne said "I was in my bikini" (Heather trying to be heard over the crowd.."That was my bra")...Funny

And here's mine.. Linus walks onto stage..lights please..spotlight. Isnt there anyone who can tell us where Kim Richards really is?

Gage was in Jeff's life for a couple of years before we ever saw him. It makes me wonder how the relationship was with Zoila before he came on the show. Zoila wasn't as brash and nasty until Jeff encouraged her to be. And Gage was awkward and uptight at first. Zoila is filling a MIL-like role to Jeff,Jenny said as much. My own MIL was a hard nut to crack and although I knew she loved me, she was very hard on me for years. It got better after I had a baby, but even then,she was not very loving towards me. When my FIL had took ill, I stayed by her side for months. Driving her to the hospital then rehab every single day. She was so grateful and we bonded like never before. This was after 16 years!! After my FIL passed, I continued a wonderful,loving relationship with my MIL until her death 2 years later. I always showed her respect and took a lot of digs in those early years. The payoff was worth it. I realize that Zoila isn't Jeff's mother,but he loves her, and has lost his own mother. Gage doesn't deserve abuse,name calling and getting the middle finger,but it's up to him to keep the peace. They will bond someday. I do think they love each other.

I've been re-watching the first 3 seasons. Will likely skip season 4. Once was enough. A few things stand out when I watched with knowledge of how things played out. 1. I am no Brandi fan, but she clearly didn't like Lisa telling her what to do from the very beginning. It's all over her face. The whole set-up with Cedric/Brandi is painful when you know how fake it all was. The Scheana sit down really makes Lisa look guilty of exploiting that situation for her benefit. The build up is forced. 2. The big reveal by Brandi of Adrienne's personal business is so weird. It's a wonder that viewers were able to sift through this storyline with all it's omissions and holes. But it's clear that Brandi knew that she'd be revealing that info at some point. She lays the groundwork for it with her discussion of pregnancies and deliveries. Adrienne talks on and on in detail about hers (non-existant) while Brandi stares at her like a snake. This made it clear that it was totally set up to happen. The producers did not bank on Adrienne blocking their story, which made it so frustrating to watch,and frustrating for them as well. 3. Speaking of blocking..Adrienne's kids are only shown a couple of times in seasons 1&2..from the back,with big hats and scarves.Always concealed. When shown the day of the fire in Season 3, they are given the blurred out face treatment. It's obvious they are protective of the kids and don't want them to be seen. So why did Adrienne share so much about an issue that she knows isn't true. She could have stayed quiet,and said no thank you to that question. Makes you wonder. 4. The hardest thing is to see Ken with Brandi. He genuinley really liked her. He was so friendly,protective and his intentions never feel fake. She crapped all over that. I believe Lisa really liked her too and defended her all the time(to her own detriment) even if it was a friendship that was at least in part for the show. Brandi should have played that hand better. She wanted more and misjudged her popularity with the audience. I see Yolanda's influence in her switching gears. 5. Speaking of Yolanda..Just Yuck! Right from the beginning.Makes me question why I liked her the first time around. On second viewing,she was awful from day one. It's ironic to see her being so obnoxious about all her healthy living,no drinking(we see her with a glass of hard liquor) diet,exercise,Master Cleanse,lambs dna injections. And now her biggest story is how sickly she is. She is FF material for me. I won't watch her unless she's interacting with another HW. Hope she's gone this season. I know this has all been said and re-hashed,and not sure if anyone will even read this post, but seeing it years later with knowledge of it's outcome is interesting. I had to share.

I voted for Bethenny because she makes me laugh. Yes she was awful in the first half of the season. But she got better as the season went on. Plus she got my vote by default.

As I just joined the board and missed this fun poll, I will toss my opinion in as a throwaway. Ramona and Sonja. Please let them go. They are silly, fake, and rude. That being said, Sonja can be funny sometimes and I liked her during her first season. Ramona has NEVER been likeable. Why do they say it's impossible to stay mad at her? No it's not. It's very possible. In fact it's likely. On another note: I know someone who closes her eyes when she's speaking. Usually when she's agitated and saying something unpleasent. Just like Moaner.

Thanks for the welcome. Yes, sibling relationships are very complex. Best friends,rivals,sometimes adversaries. it's great that you are so mindful of being equal (but naturally different) with your boys. I have an only child..so she gets me all to herself...lol..I'm sure she'd like to share sometimes!

Thank you. and you are so right. We struggle as they struggle.