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Definitely. But Elijah will get the last laugh because you know Klaus is gonna go simply batty when he sees Elijah bonding with Marcel. I can imagine the whole gang having all their meetups at Marcel's now and Klaus alone in his mansion trying to drown out the sound of hot hybrid sex and wondering where the devil everyone is. As much as I HATE the baby storyline and "snowflake" babies in general, I have to admit baby Hope is all kinds of adorable. Her laugh made my grinch heart grow at least 1 size bigger. And as much as I bemoan that a show called The Originals has lost focus on it's main cast and has slowly(not slowly) turned into The Hayley Diaries, I do love the addition of Freya. That she is essentially trying to save her own ass just makes her that much more likeable. I'd really like to see her throw anyone and everyone under the bus REPEATEDLY. Sad abou Kol, but if this is the price of more Marcel and less Davina (I know I'm dreaming) then I'm ok with it. I'm sure he'll be back eventually. Hayley said a lot of things this episode, some which I don't think the character quite earned. Not that it matters I guess. Her thing with Jackson is just a block in the road for her and Elijah and now that the cement is dry ("I'll never be able to make you happy", "You'll always put your family before your feelings for me") , Jackson's days are numbered. My guess is he dies heroically trying to defend Haley/Hope from Dahlia, by the end of the season. So hypothetically, if they (J&H) were to get divorced would the wolves lose their new found abilities?

His cuteness is killing me!

From your mouth to Narducci's ears, please. I am also hoping that Freya hopped a ride over to Baby Hideout Central and was both the one who healed Hope, and stopped the car. With all we've seen witches do over the past one and half seasons, invisibility wouldn't be much of a stretch. Of course I was also hoping that the baby would turn out to be Tyler's and Klaus would kick it, and the "trash bag" out, and off the show. And baring that development, that Klaus would constantly and consistently treat Haley with the proper amount of disdain and disinterest, that an extremely brief jump off deserves (baby mama or no). So I'm 0 for 2 in the hopes department.

Just when I thought the baby subplot couldn't annoy me more. Special snowflake babies are the worst. They can't lift the hex, but they can lift the "can't jump" part of the spell right? My guess is they draw out his death for a few episodes. And he comes back in NB's body at the end of the season or next season with OG Rebekah. I doubt Finn is gone for good, just yet. I'm hoping that it was Freya who stopped the car and pulled Finn out of the house in time though I'm sure special snowflake baby is actually the culprit :( Is it just me, or is Haley's accent regressing? I HATE everything about the werewolf wedding storyline. Everything!!

I don't see this. I think he saw that she was wavering a bit because of "the secret" and her thing with Elijah, but knew that she would ultimately still go through with it and he wanted to manipulate her into FORCEFULLY taking a stand. As in "If you're gonna do this, and put everything on the line for Jackson and this pack you better BE DAMN SURE, you need to be willing to FIGHT for him/them." The more Haley cares about the pack the better for Klaus, because he ultimately wants control of the pack for himself. Plus now he doesn't have to watch over Jackson because who better to keep an eye on him than the person who vouched for his trustworthiness. Their wedding allows Klaus to play puppet master with the pack and let Haley and Jackson think they're running the show. The minute Jackson steps out of line, Klaus will just try to kill him. That doesn't mean that Haley and Jackson both didn't drop some truth bombs on him during the whole ordeal, but I think it went down exactly as Klaus expected it to.

Yup next week, it's in the preview if you feel like swooning early. :) I was holding out hope that it wouldn't happen, that they'd just stay friends, but it is what is.

This exactly. Stop trying to justify it and just go with it. The more they explain and examine it, the worst it is. Elena has no positive memories of Damon, so how can she be analyzing how she felt when she left Stefan for him. If they want us to accept it or at least stop complaining about it, then just play it straight and leave the past in the past. I wish they had at least tried to make this seem true. Even just one tiny hint that Kai is playing the long con. I wanna believe there is something else going on, but I've yet to see any proof of it.

I'm still not buying it. The activation of the werewolf curse can be looked at from a magical angle, it's a punishment or rite of passage, but it can also be looked at from a biological angle, where in the act of killing certain changes in the body and the brain activate the curse. The moonlight ring, much like the daylight ring is completely magic, it's a way to contain the change. I can accept that. But the ability to shift on call hasn't really been defined other than the fact that you can do it if you're a hybrid. Making it something nebulous like "oh it's just magic" cheapens it IMO, obviously YMMV. It's not a containment spell like with the moonlight ring, it's an inherited ability that comes directly from also being a vampire. Being able to share this ability with a bunch of wolves at a wedding - and don't forget it has to be a real marriage because apparently the hoodoo spiritual force granting this ability can tell if the marriage is just a sham - seems like a huge stretch. Of course there is a chance that, that is the point. That they'll go through with this wedding and nothing will happen. It wouldn't be the first time a well believed legend in the TVD universe turned out to be false.

Super babies are the worst. I also wish the show had had the balls to kill her off right away, it would have been dark, but it would have been a good catalyst for a ton of drama. Sadly I think it's too late. Killing that adorable chubby baby just seems wrong now. She should just be a werewolf, with no other super abilities at all, and instead of her blood creating hybrids I wish it cured them because it still annoys the shit out of me that Haley became one.

Is it just me or is this mystical ability to pass on traits to the werewolf pack at the wedding a wee bit.... completely ridiculous?! First, it's not really a "spell" that gives Hybrids control over the ability to shift. It's being a vampire (which is ridiculous anyway). So how Haley could pass on the trait without turning the pack into hybrids (which would at least make a modicum of sense) is beyond me. Second, I could have accepted if they said that traits are bred into the pack through their children, but you just have to show up at the wedding and bam you get shiny new powers? Thanks for the toaster, please accept your parting gift which is the ability to become insanely more dangerous and powerful. Really?? Third, if the ability to control shifting came from discipline and training and was something Klaus had and was teaching to Haley I could maybe buy her telling her pack that she would pass this knowledge on to them, but yet again TO plays it fast and loose with their own mythology making changes and expanding abilities that weaken the allure, mystique and stature of the Mikaelsons and the supernatural in this world in general. Very disappointing.

So what's the deal with baby Hope? Is she a hybrid? I mean considering her mother is/was a wolf and her father is a hybrid what does this make her? Three quarter wolf to one quarter vampire? Or is she all wolf since Vampires can't procreate. If she's a hybrid shouldn't she not be aging? Since technically vampires are dead. Is she mortal? Will she live out a normal life span and then die? Can she have children of her own? Can Haley? Esther seemed to imply that because she was a hybrid she couldn't have any more children. If she is a hybrid, why would her blood create more hybrids, I thought TVD established only doppelgänger blood could do that.

Oh shit, I forgot. It was Finn getting killed that explained that killing an original would destroy his entire blood line not Kol. My bad.

I laughed for a good five minutes after reading that. I don't think I'll ever be able to look at Haley again without thinking "trash bag". LOL. And yes you're right, I feel the same about the episode in general and especially about Haley. The switch from Tyler/Klaus jump off to hybrid queen is a pretty big stretch and no matter how many times she stands up to Niklaus, or Elijah or whoever I'm still not buying it. Ever since this werewolf story started to emerge as the focus of this season, I've found my love for the show waning a bit. I'm hoping whatever they do with Freya fixes that. And while I see everyone here seems to love Finn, I think they're over doing it. I love the actor, but I preferred him more when he seemed a little less crazy pants and more cold and calculating. He's practically turning into a bond villain and I wish they would ease down a bit.

I knew Freya was looking for family. As soon as I saw the blonde witch at the party and the innocent way she smiled at Rebekah, I knew that she missed them and was looking to connect. Of course it won't be that simple will it, she'll have strong memories of Finn and Henrik and will probably love Elijah (who doesn't) but Niklaus, Kol and even Rebekah could be a problem. Clearly she's woken up because of the birth of Hope, but I'm curious what her endgame will be. Will she be like Dahlia and eventually want to take the child away or will she bond with her family leaving Dahlia to come back as the big bad. I'm glad Jackson and Haley are going through with the wedding, because I want more drama with the Haley/Elijah situation. And as much as miss Claire Holt, this new Rebekah is a perfect stand in, it's not just the accent, she has the personality down pat, so I'll take her till Claire returns. I'm annoyed that Cassie turned traitor though, I liked her, and feel like the witches are not really being serviced well in this show anymore. I was hoping she would get out and take over the Quarter coven. Maybe that's something Dahlia is secretly doing behind the scenes, or Freya will be I guess. Looks like Caleb is the official new Kol, which I know will upset some people, but I like him so I'm not complaining. Finn dies this season, I think we can all agree on that right?. As much as I love the actor, his motivations are starting to wear thin. It's no wonder they called him a bore. Like live your life dude and give up on your moms ridiculous quest. If he was just trying to kill Klaus I'd get it, but this idea of cleansing the world of the Mikaelson scourge is weak sauce. Eat a cookie, watch a sunset, find some peace man. No Camille in this episode!!

I really wish I could get on board with Steroline, because other than a few dodgy moments this season, last and his whole "Klaus revenge grrr" stage, Stefan has consistently been the best. And Caroline I love to death. But it just doesn't work for me. It still feels like a backup parachute that the writers have packed just in case. I'm for add more characters, because I think this show has a serious case of "epic love" that needs to be toned down a bit. Sometimes the next person you fall in love with is just the next person you fall in love with and considering there is a serious potential that these characters could live forever, I think both Stefan and Caroline could benefit from that lesson. I wont scream or throw a fit if they get together, but I probably will pout a bit and grumble under my breath. If I had things my way I'd really like to see a time jump between this season and next so we can see these characters in the next stage of their lives and a little further removed from the "high drama" of high school.