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I'm not too too worried about accents because even people from the same state irl talk different. I would agree that the insulated societies should be distinct though. I don't care if it doesn't line up exactly like the books. Like the Seanchan are supposed to hiss and slur all the time. That sounds hard for actors to consistently do. If they all talked with a Russian accent, or whatever.
The good thing is that it's made up, so it's not like an American doing a bad Brit accent.
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15 hours ago, ElizaD said:
A few years ago I read a great breakdown of the book arcs for a seven season show, but that blog is deleted now.
I don't think the show should go past 7. That's a long time for major player actors like the Two Rivers and Elayne. I know comparisons to GOT aren't entirely fair, but it seemed to me like everyone in the final season was way way way wiped out and just wanted to get the show over with. People like the Stark actors were involved with the show for a *decade*. That's hard.
11 hours ago, Danny Franks said:Just like the thought of the Battle of Falme not ending season two is frustrating.
I completely forgot about that. Actually you could do a mid season ender with Falme and then the Stone to close out the season. The casual viewer isn't going to want to sit around hearing about a fucking Dragon for 3 years or so without a reveal.
26 minutes ago, Danny Franks said:Yeah, I think some of the minor Forsaken could be switched out for Darkfriends without anything being lost - Be'lal and Graendal are prime examples.
Rand does need to channel and kill a Forsaken at the Eye though. So maybe the show just won't resurrect them.
How the fuck are they going to do the Dark One? Because the Foresaken were shown largely to be terrified of him.
I really don't like the back quarter of the series, and I thought the end was a total flop. I'm not hate watching, I do hope the show is interesting and successful, but frankly, there is a significant portion that is just useless garbage. I just have no time for 'men and women are different!' and have the women not telling the men anything because they're so 'wool headed'. Like on Lost how the plot was driven by people not asking obvious questions. I get the AS are going to be kind of arrogant. I don't think it's particularly interesting to see the Reds constantly man hating. I get that people are naturally worried about men, and that's their job to find them.
Actually, it would be interesting if the show took an alternative POV and showed the AS as kind of fanatical.
One man/woman thing I think would be interesting is Rand/Cadsuane evolving into her mentoring him and him growing the fuck up to actually not just be the Dragon but a king.
The show has the fortune of the entirety of the source material though, and there's just some fantastic moments that could be so epic - Dumai's Wells should be positively grisly, and a lot of suspenseful political machinations. I do hope they flashback to the Foresaken in the last war. That should be cool.
10 hours ago, ElizaD said:Demandred has always felt like one of the big Forsaken, but actually he does very little before the Last Battle and the show can't have him as offscreen as the books: I feel like the logical thing is to either cut him or just go with the Taimandred secret identity theory that Jordan's notes revealed to have been his initial plan before he changed his mind about it.
This was one of the most fucking stupidest parts of the whole series. Every so often he's looking in a gateway and no one knows what he's doing and then all of a sudden - BAO IS HERE. I was like who? And then Lan cuts him to pieces with like 4 moves. This was supposed to be one of the greatest generals of the last war. I remember the Taimandred theory floating around back then and it's massively shortsighted to not have done this. You could do this and literally nothing would change. Just have him keep his personal ter-angreal thing in storage and bust it out for the last battle. Or have him on a side plot searching for it.
I am glad the show is on a streaming/premium platform, and I think this empowers TPTBs to focus on telling a good story.
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2 hours ago, Blue Plastic said:
Still not sure how they would use that against the US unless they plan to zap some or all of the population into the Upside Down.
Open the gate, bring out the demigorgon to kill all the capitalists. It's not necessarily a plan that works but that's the plot of those movies. Or massively closeted pilots, but this was 1985 and Top Gun didn't come out yet.
I thought it was interesting that Will was admonished for not liking girls, but it was in the context of not growing up as fast as the others. I'm wondering if they're going to make more of that.
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2 minutes ago, nodorothyparker said:
Hopper seems even more done that usual with this shit.
He's totally, 'yeah no, this has happened enough. fuck off" I think it's a great take on where the character would be after shooting demon dogs while his adopted daughter literally almost tore herself apart closing the gate to hell.
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That's a really good point. I think chief of the fire department is the best fit.
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8 hours ago, Melgaypet said:
I've been rewatching my DVDs of Forever, about an immortal coroner played by Ioan Gruffudd. It's as strong as I remember and really deserved a second season.
This was a victim of the strike, but at least it's a good self contained story.
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Now that it's on my mind, I was thinking how they were going to do the channeling. Because a bunch of people grunting and squinting at each other probably isn't good tv. It could be a really cool effect with different looks for men and women. Nye figuring out how to heal gentling should also be a bang moment. Actually, visualizing the channeling according to strength would be a cool look. I don't know how you'd do it. Balefire too. That needs to be absolutely terrifying.
Flashbacks to the Foresaken should be super cool if they pull it off right.
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I thought they were divorced in real life.
There is a scene with Talia in Ivanova's quarters with what were clearly sleeping clothes and another time Ivanova wakes up clearly expecting Talia to be there.
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3 hours ago, Racj82 said:
As I was typing, the Robin/Steve angle kind of reminds me of many movies in the 80s where it probably would have been more realistic if they weren't straight like Duckie in Pretty in Pink. But, movies rarely went there in that time.
There was no way Duckie was straight.
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On 7/4/2019 at 2:51 PM, bettername2come said:
Did they imply Hopper is alive in a secret Russian base? I need Hopper to be alive in a secret Russian base.
I initially thought it was Murray, but he was with Joyce so that wouldn't make sense. It could be any random American but that doesn't make sense either. Though, it seemed to me that Hop had enough time to run back upstairs before the guys in the suits could have got to him.
20 hours ago, Blue Plastic said:They haven't spent quite enough effort on the plot, or why all these shadowy government figures from the US, Russia, wherever, would even be conducting these experiments or trying to break into such a miserable world.
Super weapons against the USA. It's basically every cold war movie plot.
On 7/5/2019 at 12:10 AM, Last Time Lord said:I think my favorite aspect of the season was how each individual storyline seemed like it very well could have been the plots to movies that would have fit right in during 1985.
Hop fighting the Russian super goon was very Terminator too.
It didn't look like it was too hard for any of the actors to cry at the end there in front of the UHaul.
I also liked how the fireworks plan worked too. I hope Nancy gets to work at the paper since they're all basically dead now.
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10 hours ago, Danny Franks said:
I don't think modern TV audiences will have a whole lot of time or sympathy for that.
I read a decent article about how modern audiences are going to receive the show, and I think it's fair. Making Av bisexual with genuine feelings for both might be a good choice. If that is the case, then as much as I do like Min, I would cut her.
2 hours ago, Danny Franks said:Refocusing that through Moiraine's eyes works too, because she can see the ability, and she knows that the girl has to be trained, but they can allow her to be conflicted about taking a girl away from her home and family.
I believe Moiraine had said that she knew Egw was strong, like historically strong, so that could be a good narrative in leading viewers to guess who the Dragon really is. I assume they'd show Moir's motivation to find the Dragon, and maybe a flashback to the Foretelling. I would assume they'd end a S1 with Rand channeling at the Eye, which was really awesome. Plus, there's a couple of hints that Rand might have accidentally channeled before that.
TBH, I don't think book readers overall are going to be satisfied, and I don't really care. People here seem to understand that. I've seen social media with complaining already. And, really, a shit ton of the series needs to be cut if you're going to make a viable tv show. They need to bring in people like me from GOT - I never read those books but liked the series overall, though I think it plodded a lot hewing to the books so much.
Really, a S2 needs to end with Rand being established as the Dragon. I think they would waste too much time on book 2. Compress those timelines immediately. Everyone breaking into the Stone and that fight, when Rand finally grabs Callendor should be absolutely explosive. Plus it gives you the chance to have Ish explain the Wheel. With Mat inventing dynamite. I loved his aside when he saw everyone breaking in - oh, we're apparently having a party now? KABOOM!
They should also compress the time in the Waste considerably. There's a lot of sitting around there. I'm also interested if they're going to pull off Lews in Rand's head. They're probably going to have to show the opening scene sooner than later.
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My only appointment show was Farscape. Being in college in the 90s and living with a lot of people, you can't really get in front of the tv. I recorded a lot of shows.
I didn't watch Seinfeld, but I did catch the backwards episode and I thought it was a clever piece of television.
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I think that's what he meant and he also had to provide some context for his point.
He also was saying that, yes, the research is what it is, but that there wasn't harm in letting kids self identify if it gives them some piece of mind.
We work so hard in our field to talk to people about science the right way, and she came off as so cold and condescending. What would she do if it was her kid?
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I wouldn't have had any idea about Hawke if it hadn't been brought up. I'm very committed to not knowing these things prior to watching shows.
She doing a great job. It e kind of sad where she couldn't out right tell Steve but it was also really funny that it took him a good 30 seconds to process - But she's a girl................ Oooooh
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I think Hopper is smart enough to know something is going on weird again and he's just so over everyone's shit that he's taking the most direct route.
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8 hours ago, DearEvette said:
They are right, she knows more about her limits than he does. They forget, she went on her little road trip last season and found her people. She learned something about her capabilities there.
That's right, but does anyone else know that? A 13 y/o boy is stupid by definition and I surely know that, but if she talked about her road trip maybe they'd be better.
I don't necessarily buy that she knows her limits either. None of the rest know, and it's her decision what she thinks she can do, but I don't know if she knows either.
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That entire hospital scene was crazy. It's was kind of Doctor Who with the running of the corridors.
The Ice Cream Team is the best plot. I mean, a covert Soviet underground base in 1985 at a Midwestern town is just fucking bonkers. I like the show, but they're really pushing it.
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On 7/4/2019 at 10:13 AM, raven said:
I understand Jonathan's point about needing the job and all that but he doesn't have to go along with her.
He is so ride or die with her though.
21 hours ago, tennisgurl said:Will trying to help her was sweet, even if it didnt do much.
It reminded me of Highlander where Brenda stopped the Kurgan just long enough for Connor to regroup. Which, given this show, that might have been deliberate. She used a pipe too. "Heh. What kept you?"
I do like that El is not the deus ex machina anymore. Billy gave her a real run, and it's going to get so much worse. I do like that the kids came up with a legit plan (the sauna) and it worked. They didn't account for Billy being so strong, which isn't their fault.
I can buy the whole, hey maybe the MF got locked *out* when you closed the gate. It's kind of thin because it looked like Elle shoved it back in through the gate, but I guess it's enough. At this point, and I do like the show, I feel like they just want to hang around with these characters. And that's fine.
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Robin is the best. That is all.
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It's a show where you either roll with it or not.
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On 7/4/2019 at 7:04 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:
Part of me feels a little bad for Mike but gawd, what an idiot.
Also when you know you're in trouble, don't yell at your girlfriend the next time you see her.
As a man now, who was actually a boy at 13, I can confidently confirm Max's assertion that boys are stupid.
I do feel a little bad for Billy because it's not like he was trying to mess with the Upside Down or anything.
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They had an entire show about that in the 70s/80s.
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On 7/4/2019 at 5:57 AM, ElectricBoogaloo said:
But damn, after seeing how obnoxious Mike was I can't blame Hopper for yelling at him.
Yeah but it's also not appropriate for the trusted adult to lie to him either. I know it's difficult for Hop but he needs to do better.
On 7/4/2019 at 6:53 AM, bettername2come said:Cause the girlfriend in Utah sounded fake. Guess she exists and just isn’t interested anymore.
Or she doesn't know that she's the gf.
It looked like the Soviets were trying to open the Gate to me, and likely did.
I liked the ice cream girl's chart of You Rule/You Suck and saying 'dingus' many times.
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13 hours ago, SVNBob said:
Speaking of scripted dramas on MTV, there was also Dead at 21.
I watched that. It was really good.
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Party of One: Unpopular TV Opinions
in Everything Else TV
I remember when they changed the opening colors of it was going to be an alternate universe episode.