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  1. I don't think Rory was supposed to be scared OF Dean - just guilt on Rory's end.  And her having that is one of the reasons she liked being with Jess in the first place. He was emotionally less demanding. But the liking Jess just made the guilt worse. I personally don't think there was anything necessarily wrong with Dean wanting to be in a relationship that both he and the girl were on the same page. I don't think him wanting to spend the limited free time that he had with his girlfriend was different than most people in a serious relationship. The issue is that Rory is far from being on the same page as him. She liked hanging out and discussing books and plans and the people of Stars Hollow. And getting kissed here and there.   

    Imo Rory never had deep feelings for Dean in the first place. She liked that he liked her and that her mom grew to like him but both got too much at times. I also think that when Rory needed time to herself, she didn't really need time to herself. This wasn't an introvert needing calm thing even if Rory is an introvert. This was a girlfriend who needed time away from her needy boyfriend. She just wasn't honest with herself or Dean. 

    I don't like calling it emotional abuse because that places Dean's behavior in this strong negative that I don't think fits. This wasn't about control. Dean wanted a serious relationship. It seems to me that is what he thought having a girlfriend was compared to just dating. Rory wasn't at all ready for the emotional needs or intimacy that a serious relationship demands. I think in some ways Rory was in a youthful relationship with Dean while Dean was ready and needed more. They both totally should have broken up for good months and months before the Dance.  

    With Lindsay, I think Dean found a girl who wanted a serious relationship so he latched onto that. He just never had real feelings for her. So he was now in the opposite of what he had with Rory. And really that is what happened with Jess and Rory in a way as well. They both got what they said they wanted. But you want more with the person you want more with. And that was Rory for Dean and Jess for Rory. 

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  2. Lorelai asks Rory, what about Luke at the end of episode 2 so there were direct hints that early. But Lorelai was into all cleaned up Luke of the end of the pilot.

    There is also the scene in Emily in Wonderland, Luke and Lorelai are in the storage room and Lorelai asks Luke if there was going to redate Rachel and if she's ready why not take the plunge. and if there some reason not to take that plunge. Lorelai loved Luke and was interested in Luke. throughout season 1. But Luke chose Rachel leaving Lorelai with Max and Chris. Of the two Lorelai choose Max because he was ready. Then Christopher seems ready but was taken but then maybe wasn't but then he had to be taken because of Sherry's pregnancy. Chris chooses Sherry even though he wants Lorelai. 

    In 6.22 Lorelai tells Carolyn that she never loved anyone until Luke so it's not really just a revival thing.

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  3. I'm fine with Legends not included. While the last crossover had a major event happen for Legends, the show still felt as if they were there just because... So Berlanti&co might as well treat them like the ugly step cousins they already treat them like, and leave them out completely. Let legends series build and flow at their own pace. But at the same time, it sucks because I did want Sara to meet Kate. But Caity already hinted at this when she said she believes TPTB were going to treat the shows more stand alone. 

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  4. Even family fight so I can deal with this if they keep the characters true to themselves and have both sides fully understood. The Arrow fight was stupid because NTA just didn't have reason to be on a different side than OTA. It was f-cked up. OTA has bugged and had traces on each other, Roy and Sara. OTA had reason to think someone betrayed them because hello someone did. The writers wanted the team to fight and it happened but for no real story reason. It was all about the fight. You can have the purpose be to divide the team but it has to be right for the characters and fully developed. Plus I don't feel like I knew NTA enough to care about the fight. I was all bye bye bye to the newbies. It won't be that way with Legends. I care about everybody to a degree. Even Nate and Constantine. But especially Ray and Sara&Mick. And if the two sides are OTA mixed it both works and is heartbreaking. Unlike with Arrow when the Diggle vs Oliver was just thrown in. It was stupid. Diggle did not want to be Green Arrow. SMH at Arrow. 

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  5. The Clark and Lois text 

    19. Clark and Lois, Smallville
    Is there any couple as iconic as Clark Kent (Tom Welling) and Lois Lane (Erica Durance)? While Lana (Kristen Kreuk) dominated the first few seasons of the series as Clark's love interest, Lois definitely took over (with much more success) when she arrived on the scene in Season 4. Despite a totally longer than necessary arc where Lois didn't realize Clark was also the Blur, this relationship shone through as the best ship on the show and one of the top to ever grace The CW network.  

     

    And OT but if people really need to read the Rory&Jess text. Though they were never really a CW ship. Jess wasn't even in the Gilmore Girls season that was on the CW. 

    http://www.tvguide.com/galleries/the-top-25-cw-ships-of-all-time-ranked/19/

  6. In Hay Bale Maze, Rory and Logan were talking about her decision on rather or not she wanted to take the Providence job. He noticed Rory was doing a Pro-Con list and saw that she had question marks on his name. He told her not to worry about factoring him in for this decision. Basically that if she goes to Providence it would be up to him to factor her in. And Rory told Logan that in general, she would like to factor him in. Logan clearly took that to mean they were both on the same page. But Rory didn't understand what that all meant. 

    Later Rory had the conversation with Paris in the episode 7.19 - It's Just Like Riding A Bike:

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    RORY: Well, those are all valid questions.

    PARIS: No, they're not. This decision is the culmination of everything I've ever worked for, everything. I should choose a school based on its merits, not based on its proximity to some guy.

    RORY: But Doyle's not just some guy.

    PARIS: I know. But I'm only 22. This wasn't supposed to happen yet. I wasn't supposed to meet the guy until I was 30 and clerking for a federal judge or finishing up my residency and when I knew where I'd be when I was ready to settle down.

    RORY: Yeah, but you can't plan everything. I mean, you fell in love. That's a good thing.

    PARIS: Are you willing to make a decision this big based on Logan?

    RORY: Well, actually, we talked about it, and we're gonna factor each other in.

    PARIS: What does that mean?

    RORY: It just means we're gonna take each other into consideration when we make decisions.

    PARIS: Okay. So carry that thought out. Let's say you get The New York Times fellowship and Logan's meetings in San Francisco go incredibly well and he wants to move there. Do you take a job in San Francisco? The chronicle is a perfectly adequate paper. Or do you go to The New York Times?

    RORY: The New York Times.

    PARIS: Then we're saying the same thing, aren't we?

    RORY: No, not at all.

    PARIS: You're saying your career is your priority over your relationship.

    RORY: They're both priorities.

    PARIS: But your career comes first.

    RORY: Well, I didn't say it comes first. I -- I'm just not ready to make any sacrifices in that area yet.

    PARIS: But you are willing to make sacrifices in your relationship. Hence, your career is more important to you, just like me. 

    RORY: Well, I wouldn't say "more important." I guess I just thought that if Logan and I have to do long-distance again, we'll make it work.

    PARIS: Sure. Maybe. Then again, choosing to be apart might be... choosing to be apart.

    Rory probably should have seen this coming. Not the marriage proposal but the San Fran part of it. Logan thought he and Rory were on the same page that they were going to factor each other in depending on who got the job first.  Long distance wasn't an issue for her, they did it already although they had both hated it. They both found themselves Jealous at times. And that was when Logan could come back a lot. It would be different when he didn't have Huntzberger money to provide that ability. And this time there was no job forcing the Long distance. Rory didn't have a job or even prospects of a job. She just wasn't ready to limit her prospects for Logan.

    What Logan did wrong (way wrong) was the public proposal. It left Rory without time to think things out. Logan knew Rory needed Pro-con lists. he even mentions for her to do a pro-con list during the Bridesmaid debacle. I think it makes no sense that he would propose in public especially at a stuffy Emily/DAR-ish party.

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  7. Earlier in the season Doyle had more or less not trusted Rory's gut, Paris questioned her choice of story and if she had a new angle and Logan more or less questioned rather or not Rory could put herself into the fray to get the best story. It stunted with that LDB article but the groundwork was there for Rory to question herself. 

    With the internship, Rory basically had one job - to shadow Mitchum. It started off on the wrong foot because Mitchum asked her to bring a pencil and she came without one. Instead of watching and observing Mitchum, Rory stopped and called Logan to asked about Mitchum. Instead of taking notes and thinking of questions to ask Mitchum she started doing the small stuff in the newsroom. Meaning she wasn't shadowing Mitchum. Let alone preparing to use this opportunity like interview and prep. Then she couldn't even stand up and say the idea of hiring college students was a good idea and hint that she would be open to the idea herself. And she couldn't even talk one of one with Mitchum when she had him the little bit of time before the meeting happened. 

    Back when I watched the OS as it aired, I thought when Rory comes back to Yale we were to see this wasn't the same Rory that Mitchum evaluated. Or at least that is how I always thought we were to take it. This is the one who dealt with community service, "mom mode" Emily and all the DAR ladies and the work she did at the DAR. Rory learned how to deal with people better and how to own her own skills that made Mitchum say she would be a good assistant to use to manage the room. We are to think Rory learned to be Rory and be a Journalist even if it was as an editor.

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  8. High school Rory was also in a lot of Stars Hollow events. College interviews and written essays are crucial parts of the process.  I want to guess that she had to have had a great entrance essay. She had good SAT. Plus both sides of her family have Ivy League heritage. That would have helped her application process even at Harvard. And she was Legacy at Yale and Princeton. I

    Revival Rory was still in the middle of her quarter-life crisis when dealing with the Newspaper. The show really should have had Rory fall in love with the process of running the hometown newspaper (and bringing it into the modern age or at least taking it out of the 70's). Asking to keep open and be the editor was really the only thing she took initiative during the revival. But nope. It was more or less just to do the delivery musical montage and give Rory and Jess a setting so he can tell her to write a book about her mom. 

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