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Danseur

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  1. I've always wondered about the first meeting storyline. It's hard to imagine they don't discuss the pairings with the Pros although the celebs being surprised seems believable. Reality shows are actually UNreality in so many ways, nothing would surprise me. In the Extra interview, Marilu said she was extremely shocked to be paired with Derek because she thought he was no longer a part of the show and she was looking forward to Hairspray, etc. Which, if true, would mean she didn't request him as a partner. She's talked about wanting to do the show for so long that I think she would have easily been happy with any Pro they assigned to her. When she was first rumored to be on, I thought she would be paired with Tony or Artem based on past pairings. I can't imagine there isn't a lot of negotiating between the Pros and producers, with some Pros (long timers, Pros who draw more viewers, etc.) having more leverage than others. If Maks, Derek, et al bring in more viewers then I'm sure the producers will do a lot to get them on and keep them dancing as long as possible. Their bottom line, $$$, is more important to them than anything else. I agree with truthaboutluv's reasoning when it comes to the matter of Derek's lying, but understand why others disagree. As Len says, "reasonable minds can differ." In addition, reason is never the only factor that determines perceptions and beliefs.
  2. When reading about why Charlie and Meryl didn't wait to do the show, the main reason for them was keeping their names in the news for the sake of endorsement contracts. But Laurie's situation, as has been pointed out, is different. Maybe her experience, quickness to learn routines and her adorability will offset the busyness/less time factors. As for the dreaded Rick Perry, while he's no Bill Engvall or Kellie Pickler, he does hail from that ever loyal neck of the woods where patriotic, military-admiring and southern middle aged women dwell. They cannot resist voting for one of their own. Even if he dances like Master P, I don't think theres a snowballs chance in Hades he will go out first and I won't be surprised if he outlasts Jake, Lochte, and all the other potential first-outers. Being paired with Emma will probably add to the equation, since after all, she's Bill Engvall's adopted daughter and sweet to the bone. When a redneck is participating, ["not that there's anything wrong with that" ?] the same people who voted for Bill, Michael Waltrip, Kellie Pickler, Sadie Robertson, et al will come out of the woodwork to root for their admittedly ornery but "good ol boy." I would LOVE to be wrong but if past is prologue. . .those who are nauseated might have to endure a few weeks. Question: Even though Marilu is a Pro dancer who can remember everything and whose heart Derek has already "Eddie Haskelled his way into" ?, did anyone else watch her on the Apprentice? IIRC, she was hyper talkative, stayed in her head too much and was excessively worried about details. She also asked way too many questions. Does anyone else think these traits might easily and quickly irritate OCD Derek? She was sweet, high energy, creative, hard-working and tons of fun until. . .she began to grate on the laid-back, easygoing nerves of Lil Jon and Trace Adkins. Maybe it won't be an issue but from the first minute I heard about the pairing, I wondered if it would be. I adore her, by the way. But working 24/7 with someone like that could be quite a challenge.
  3. One of the women from the unnamed web site who claims to have an inside source she calls "Deep Throat" has been tweeting about an "as yet unannounced old Pro" returning. She claims it will be a challenge to other Pros to "step up their game." Evidently there has been a lot of Twitterite speculation, most believing it to be Maks. When Maks was announced, she tweeted that he was not the "secret Pro". Now there is talk that it might be Derek who is returning. His Broadway show has been postponed to late 2017 which would make it possible. All pure gossip.
  4. Yes that photo was from the rehearsal. You were obviously right about it not confirming anything. Edyta was in the Kelly/Michael appearance this morning as was Hayley Erbert who was rumored not to be returning. I've decided to quit posting speculations because there are too many rumors and changes. Yes, Kiril Kirlish is standing next to Witney in the rehearsal photo. He was on Kelly/Michael this morning too so maybe he's a new Pro or troupe member. I watched his competition videos and he's an outstanding dancer. There was some hint at Pure this morning about how people might be surprised with a bit of upcoming Derek news. I'm with legaleagle on Derek's status. He doesn't like to be idle and the Broadway show does not open until January, 2017. Also I think he has one more season of his DWTS contract to fulfill. He hasn't said anything himself about whether he will or will not be on the show. The rumor that he won't be has come from gossip sites and Pure.
  5. I agree with you about Paige and Mark. She's a firecracker and a very hard worker. I just read that Derek is definitely out. Singing in the Rain is supposedly not going to be until late Fall though. I wonder if he has something else planned for the months preceding it? It's not like him to be idle for very long. Here's a copy of the rehearsal photo: http://www.puredwts.com/2016/02/10/dancing-with-the-stars-season-22-pro-watch/dwts-pros-by-andy-grammer/
  6. Sasha tweeted "It's official" two weeks ago and some thought it meant he would be a Pro this season. How tall is Kim Fields? I've heard from three different sources that Edyta is coming back but that still doesn't make it true. I also heard that Sharna might be pared with Antoine Brown (?) who plays for the Pittsburgh Steelers. Evidently he played in the Super Bowl. There's a lot of speculation at Pure that Derek will not be back and that Hayley Erbert will not be back in the troupe. She evidently changed her Twitter profile to read DWTS 21 which lead some to surmise that she didn't renew. They say that he keeps alluding to some exciting things. In one interview he was asked when he will be on Broadway and he answered, "sooner than you think." As I said, just speculation and nothing certain. One of the Pros posted a photo of their rehearsal and Derek was not there. There were two new faces and one was identified as Kiril Kirlish who is a Latin champion who has danced on Broadway. No one knows if he's troupe or Pro.
  7. YT has a few videos of Paige dancing so if anyone is interested, here are two: http://youtu.be/Nrk5jgHGmD0
  8. Here's an article about Paige: http://mmajunkie.com/2015/10/paige-vanzant-competitive-dancing-prepared-me-for-ufc-spotlight I'm not sure if the above talks about her parents owning a dance studio, but I read it in several different articles. With a competitive dance background and MMA skills, she might be hard to beat. I didn't know who she was when I looked her up so have no idea about personality, likability, fanbase, etc. As always, I get to know the "stars" when they're on the show, with the exception of a few Buzz Aldrin/Cloris Leachman types. If it's true she's partnered with Mark, I'm sure he's happy since he's such a big fan of MMA.
  9. Interesting point. I hadn't thought about that possible interpretation of his statement.
  10. I noticed Jake's turnaround too. Also, Kristyn added more agreement. In fact, Jake said something like, it was good to see some "real" dancing, following it quickly with "not that contemporary is not". It was interesting that after viewing an entire season with fewer rules enforced, much more fusing of styles and less ballroom, by the end of it everyone was getting a sense that the show had lost something. That's how I heard it anyway. Speaking to Kristyn's comment, there is a conversation that goes around in some circles every season after the finale about the reactions to the win of the various Pros and their supposed factions. I think that's what Kristyn might have been referencing. Some people have made a big deal out of whether the Pro acts like its his/her win rather than the celeb's, Tony raising up three fingers last season meaning that the DWM guys now had three MBTs, etc. In my opinion, I've never seen this as "political" either but just pure joy and excitement when their friends win. I also think for the most part they all seem happy for the winner no matter who it is. It was nice to see the overall joy from everyone over Bindi's win. She seemed to have a positive affect on everyone connected to the show.
  11. I was replying to a long series of comments by people who were disgusted by/sick of hearing about her dead dad in "so many" of their dances. I don't think the jive and tango were dead dad dances either but I added them to preclude what I assumed would be more haranguing since the dad was mentioned in both rehearsal packages.
  12. Thanks for that Woody Guthrie quote. I've never heard it and I love it.
  13. That's beautiful. Here's another Brian Eno one I love, "I wanted to hear music that had not yet happened, by putting together things that suggested a new thing which did not yet exist." And one of my favorites on this subject: "A good poet will usually borrow from authors remote in time, or alien in language or diverse in interest." T.S. Eliot If you want to create anything you have to take from something that exists and put it with something else that exists which results in a new thing.
  14. Yes to firing Bindi's hairdresser. Her hair looked best when she danced with Val. It seemed like all her hairstyles were old fashioned. What was up with that? And the Trophy is definitely heavy. I'm sure that's the reason Derek wanted to hold it. Every season they mention it and the female winners struggle trying to hold it up for very long. Did anyone else feel exhausted from the running back and forth between the two venues? I thought it was a bit chaotic and nerve wracking. Hope they don't do that again. I agree with all who want Derek to go. I like watching him dance but I really don't want to go through another season like this one with all the complaining and criticizing, some of which I thought was valid and/or understandable. I hope he signed on with the Weinstein Company to do Singing in the Rain on Broadway. That will make his fans happy and his anti-fans will be happy that they no longer have to put up with him. I will miss him and his dancing, but I realize I'm in a minority. I love dancing and enjoy most of the Pros so I'll be fine watching them. The only thing that might influence me to leave altogether is the devolution of the show and some of Rob Wade's choices.
  15. No, I know you didn't say or imply that. I used the lift only as an example of how all artists "steal" from one another in the Picasso sense of that word.
  16. Kitcloudkicker, Your entire post on the other thread is fascinating to me because you bring up the historical, philosophical question of the nature of the creative process. It's something as a former English professor I have spent years studying. Most of the world's great artists have contributed to the discussion in some form or another. What you said above and the book you quoted reminded me of the famous statement by Pablo Picasso, "A bad artist copies, a good artist steals." It would take too long to say enough about the meaning of that here, but his statement does support your contention. What Picasso means by it is, to steal something is to make it your own in a unique way. No artist owns an idea, a word, a dance move, etc. An artist owns an entire poem, an entire dance, a painting, a completed piece. Stealing the ideas of others, in the Picasso sense of the word, means taking them and doing your own thing with them, as opposed to just trying to imitate the work of someone else. I could list quotes from many artists in various fields who say something similar. Another interesting fact is that one of the lifts that is referenced in this discussion is also used in Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet ballet which was choreographed in 1938 (? or close). Travis didn't create that move and neither did Derek. I have no idea if it was first created in 1938 or before.
  17. I posted this in the thread that is now locked: Someone asked how many dead daddy dances we were subjected to, so here's the answer: Dead Dad Dances: Jive, Tango, Contemporary, Freestyle Non Dead Dad Dances: Waltz, Quickstep (Jeffersons), Cha Cha, Rumba, Argentine Tango, Foxtrot, Viennese Waltz, Charleston, Salsa, Jazz, Samba, Quickstep (Bones)
  18. I think his contract extends one more season, but no one knows whether he will be a Pro or be assigned something else. Derek was in discussions with Harvey Weinstein about doing a remake of "Singing in the Rain" on Broadway. He mentioned it in a Q and A during his Move Tour in August, but has said nothing about it again. Yesterday, Variety published an article about The Weinstein Company bring it to Broadway in 2016 but the cast was not announced. http://variety.com/2015/legit/news/singin-in-the-rain-broadway-harvey-weinstein-1201646802/ In October, Jared Grimes (the tap dancer in New York Spring Spectacular) posted the following tweet which has stirred up talk about Derek's being involved. Shared from Twitter: Jared Grimes on Instagram: “My homie @derekhough is on tv #dancingwiththestars each week…. I’m in pre-production for the feature film #breakingbrooklyn and yet we are still tapping the same tune about a monster collab…????. Will you be ready for it when it hits? Aaaah the suspense???? #whitenights #holidayinn #blueskies #singingintherain #sammydavisjr. #franksinatra #genekelly #donaldoconnor #jerrylewis #deanmartin #gregoryhines #baryshnikov #tap #tapdance #ballroom #dance #brothers @weinsteinco”
  19. Someone asked how many dead daddy dances were we subjected to, so here's the answer: Dead Dad Dances: Jive, Tango, Contemporary, Freestyle Non Dead Dad Dances: Waltz, Quickstep (Jeffersons), Cha Cha, Rumba, Argentine Tango, Foxtrot, Viennese Waltz, Charleston, Salsa, Jazz, Samba, Quickstep (Bones) TruthaboutLuv, I admire your determination to talk about facts in the middle of an emotional maelstrom.
  20. Good point, realdancemom. We all have different personalities, ways of being and speaking. I'm more of an introvert myself. I'm not sure I've ever heard anyone say it's "raining happiness" much less say it myself. :) We also have different opinions and every right to speak them. But I tend to feel a bit protective of the younger celebs and don't think it benefits any of us or them to reiterate negative points that have already been made several times. Words can hurt people, especially the young.
  21. I like to give children the benefit of the doubt. Some people continue wanting to please their parents well into adulthood. My mind and my heart tell me this is an issue between the grandfather and the mother.
  22. I like giving children the benefit of the doubt. Bindi was sixteen at the time. Both my mind and my heart tell me this is an issue between the mother and the grandfather.
  23. I like Bindi and believe she's a sincere person. For me, it isn't hard to believe her hyper-bubbly, extrovert personality is real considering that her father had the same nature. In a world filled with so much complaining and negativity, someone who is positive most of the time seems abnormal, so it makes sense that people have questioned the genuineness of all the perkiness. Her VTs have shown her being worried and expressing fear, although working hard not to complain. She said she holds negativity in until she gets ill. In the rehearsal for the Chicago number, she said worry and stress cause her to fail, so it makes sense that she would want to work hard to be positive instead. Whatever the truth about her mother and the zoo, my opinion is that she has had to do something right to have two children who are articulate, know how to relate to and converse with adults and who spend time doing something other than stare into a television set or play video games all day.
  24. I thought someone quoted him as saying he wasn't sure he wanted to make it to the end because he was tired, something like that. When I read the comment I remember thinking maybe it had been misinterpreted. After working so hard for so long, I would think he might feel like he wanted to rest because of tiredness, but I think he is one who would definitely want to win, not go home. My sense from watching the show for years is that a lot of them have moments of wanting to leave, especially during the first few weeks when they experience how hard it is and how many hours they have to rehearse. By week 8 most of them want to win no matter what. Of course, I'll never forget Bill Engvall's statement when he was eliminated the first night of finals, "Now I know there IS a god because I couldn't have danced one more dance."
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