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minimilah

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  1. i was thinking this, too. their communication is MUCH better than the communication they had in their marriages. they're more open to each other, they talk, they communicate, they pay attention to each other, they work things out. i feel like there is no unresolved stuff there. that's why i'm under the impression that those things that "ruined" their 1st marriages (finances, inlaws, tragedy) - those things would bring alison and noah closer together. just like someone else wrote - they love each other just the way they are. it's like alison and noah both discovered and "freed" their true selves when they met each other. i always felt how comfortable they are in their scenes together, they just look so right. and i wish we had more scenes of that "rightness". for me, it was the hospital scene when alison's grandma died where i was like - that's really IT for them. they found each other and that's IT.
  2. when reading Levi's interviews - i thought this, too. but when reading Treem's interviews - i thought we were getting this epic love story that happened to two good people in happy marriages. & honestly... i'm glad they made those marriages look worse over time because i don't believe that affairs can happen in GOOD marriages. what i did learn tho - everyone has their own definition of a GOOD marriage. i work with married couples in counseling & in my experience - when the affair starts happening (all those lies & hiding), the respect is gone. and there is no love without respect. so this is a storyline that's (in my opinion) more realistic than the story about happy marriages who got ruined by the 3rd person. BUT i will add - i do agree with the part about the grass always looking greener on the other side & then (when you enter a full relationship with your affair partner) - you find out it's really the same because you didn't change what you really needed to. so, from my experience, affair partners very rarely last in a real relationship, hence my surprise at noah and alison being happily married for quite some time. i don't think a happy ending was what was Levi aiming for but Treem did.
  3. i'd love for helen to be like - honey, you can leave anytime you want! & just hooked up with max or someone else, LOL. but yeah, the show is very realistic. where there js anger, there is always pain beneath.
  4. me too. i'm interested in alison and noah. i like helen and cole but not really interested in their happily ever after. i want them to get one, yes... but give me alison and noah, that's where my focus is. ALSO - i agree with you, people are afraid because this can happen in their lives, too. the show is so realistic that makes many feeling very uncomfortable. i think this is the worst that can happen - seeing your partner cheat on you and dump you and then marry and have kids and live happily with the affair partner.
  5. i think the show is maybe a little too realistic - no one leaves a bad marriage or a bad relationship without at least a rebound partner. treem tried to tell us these two had happy marriages which i just didn't buy. many didn't. if noah loved helen, he would've been honest with her from the start. but they didn't have good or honest communication in their marriage (noah's silent resentment, he only confesses when he feels he'll be discovered or when the guilt is too much to handle). i feel like noah married helen because she just... you know, looked good. life with her just looked good, i'm convinced he never loved her. when he talked about his marriage to alison LOVE is the very last thing he mentions. and alison & cole... that marriage died when gabe died. so, as a viewer, i see these two people who were so clearly unhappy and missing something for a LOOOONG time - yet they did nothing to actually try to save their marriage or leave. someone said alison & noah are brave - and i agree with that. but the thing is, many don't. many see their escape as an act of cowardice because they didn't have the courage to leave on their own, so they used each other. they only left when they had the 2nd option waiting. if they wanted to convince us that these two indeed had a happy marriage where there was love and BAM - met each other? things should've been directed and written very differently. if we were shown two marriages and noah and alison who had respect for their spouses (enough respect to NOT fuck in their marital beds) - i think people would've been sympathetic. if we were shown noah and alison who tried to make it work but it simply wasn't going anywhere? people would've been more sympathetic. we were shown noah who lies to helen about the depth of his feelings for alison and fucks alison in helen's bed and we were shown alison who ruins helen's shampoo & blames cole for her son's death. one more thing - did noah really abandon his family? he abandonded helen, but as far as i understood - he takes care of his kids. how did he abandoned them? i doubt he just left and never called or never visited them.
  6. i think that noah's memories of helen may be a lottle exaggerate but not lies, you know? like he might remember helen as being more snoby and bitchy than she really is. he might imagine her as being more controlling than she really is... but i think the truth is somewhere in the middle. helen isn't a bitch but she's definitely isn't a saint.
  7. i think their partnership was over long before alison appeared. and it was definitely ruined with the affair. i really find helen's reactions realistic. it's so typical that she took him back and they reconciled, she seemingly got over it and forgave... but she was just so angry. i feel like she wanted to punish him so bad, to hurt him and humiliate him with words just like he did to her by having an affair. she struggled between wanting to work on their marriage and between the anger she felt at his betrayal. it doesn't matter if they reconciled. it's still a whole lot of emotions that helen needed to deal with over time. PLUS i think they never really reconciled because helen probably felt that noah wasn't really involved or interested in fixing their marriage.
  8. great, great post! i completely agree with everything, both maura and ruth are brilliant actresses.
  9. fans these days want it all, LOL. they want behind the scenes, they want the extra explanations, they want extra informations. and writers do exactly that (treem, shonda rhimes, julie plec) = they open a dialogue with fans, offering some extra "inside" informations and making fans feel more connected to the show & to the story. treem might seem a little aggressive with her explanations, like she is forcing her ideas on us, just like shonda... but i get it because these are THEIR characters. treem imagined noah as a good man who fell madly, passionately in love & dared to risk it all for the one who he loves... and i get why she's irked when people tweet their dislike of noah & describe him as an a**hole. but that's the beauty of it all - we all view things differently. i think we all see what we want to see, at the end of the day.
  10. helen just can't win - if she's out of control, screaming, insulting or crying = she is seen as a raging bitch BUT if she's calm, composed, cold = she is seen as manipulative & a control freak. i find helen's reactions & emotions realistic. she went from being calm & composed, in denial, screaming & throwing noah out, taking him back, begging him to stay & promising to change, being sad and depressed... until she finally (seemingly) accepts it in the end. 5 stages of grief. i also think she handled it with dignity... imagine coming home and realizing your husband just fucked another woman in YOUR marital bed. all hell would break loose if it was me in helen's place. i think it does, honestly. she was probably told (just like all the other writers) to offer some explanations and to open conversations with fans in order to get their reaction and some feedback. i think treem has better things to do than to sit on twitter and explain shit to fans - but like i said, i think she was told to do that by the bosses.
  11. i don't think so, lol. i guess the show is so interesting that people come up with lots of different stories and ideas. and i honestly wouldn't put it past max... for some reason.
  12. you're right, i totally forgot about noah having dinner. hm.... maybe julianne is their babysitter? :/ "when julianne leaves" does sound weird.
  13. i think she just said - pick up my KID. so i think there's only one kid, that kid being noah's. and i think that's julianne.but i cannot tell for sure... i THINK there's only one kid in question.
  14. there is theory going around that scotty isn't whitney's baby father - but it's max. scotty did say he was only whitney's friend at the clinic? what do y'all think? also, when she said "when julianne leaves" maybe she meant, when she leaves for daycare or something?
  15. hmmmmmmm... so alison either knows something or knows who did it or she did it. xD. i wonder what made them change it.
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