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  1. I was disappointed in what could well be called a full meltdown on Mike's part. Good lord, He's sitting pretty in the majority alliance with a strong cross-tribal sub-alliance that he can figure out what to do with later. If he decided it was too risky to drop Angelina as a number, then he should have targeted a David not in his sub-alliance. I feel like that was a very Ned Schneebly move.
  2. I think this is plausible (and it's my one point of disagreement with you, @Nashville; everything else in your posts has been on point). It doesn't really matter, though, because I think everyone involved is cool with the fact that everyone else is playing a game too.
  3. Davie could have pulled this off on his own if he sold different stories to Carl and Nick about which advantage was being played, but that seems unnecessarily risky. Instead, I think Davie told one or both of Carl and Nick about the idol, and that person went along with the cover story that involved using their advantage. Gabby and Christian didn't even have to know all the details. If Nick assured Christian that he's got him covered, what's Christian gonna do, say FU? I think Davie and Carl and Nick have a threesome, possibly with Christian as their fourth (I agree that no one has him in their end game except maybe Gabby). Within that threesome there are possible twosomes.
  4. NAILED IT! If he hadn't won immunity, I bet it would have been. The previews showing Kara wanting to distance from Dan strike me as misleading, so I'm betting on another David exit next week. Unfortunately I think it's most likely to be Davie or Carl, who have been visible but not stars. Davie in particular has been underedited compared to the move he dropped this week, so if I were a bettor, I'd put my money on Davie to go next week.
  5. All right, God dammit, I'mma say it: I'm a FANGELINA. EXACTLY. She was exactly right last week about targeting Christian and about being concerned when other Goliaths wanted to save Christian. She was exactly right tonight when she said that Christian's connections were exactly why he needed to be voted out. For her game, sure, but that's all she should care about. She's definitely getting a goat edit, but I'm going to stand behind my Latina sister all the way to the final three if she makes it. And if not, I'm going to enjoy her saying "I TOLD YOU CHRISTIAN WAS THE BIGGEST THREAT" from the Jury. Dan's playing the idol was a classic blunder along the lines of "I clearly cannot chose the wine in front of me." He failed to anticipate that they were both poisoned and that the Davids had developed an immunity to Iocane. Otherwise, in general, I'm with the sentiment that I'm super sad to see John go, but it was a great episode and John's a shoe-in to return. I began this reply by commenting that the Goliaths didn't know that John was the alternative, which is true, but in running through the possible scenarios in my head, the only thing I can think is that Dan thought that if all the votes were nullified, then they'd revote on whatever secondary target they'd already picked. YES. Basically Nick told Christian to trust him, and Christian did (because of Mason-Dixon? Who knows?). We don't know whether Christian was in on the whole plan or whether he just trusted Nick and voted the way Nick told him to vote. I can see it either way. If Christian wasn't in on the idol (which I truly don't think he was), it speaks well for his ability to sit back and trust rather than blowing his top when he becomes a target. I'm still a fan. I do think Nick was in on Davie's idol, however. All of this puts Nick in an excellent position. You gotta be kidding me. It's 2018 and we're still making women with hairy pits jokes? C'mon. Do better.
  6. OMG YOU GUYS THIS IS GOING TO BE THE MOST DELIGHTFUL PONDEROSA EVER!!!! I MIGHT WATCH THE ACTUAL VIDEOS!
  7. It did raise suspicions of a secret alliance! Angelina's! It wasn't just a hissy fit that upset her at the switch back to Elizabeth, it was a legitimate concern that others in her alliance had side deals that didn't include her and did include Christian, while the closest thing she had to such a deal was her friendship with sitting duck Elizabeth. In retrospect I think it was the wrong move to tell Elizabeth about her targeting, but I understand that she thought, oh shit, I gotta start building some cross-tribal alliances. What have I got to work with?
  8. Elizabeth explicitly said that she she didn't take the game personally, and that seems to be the case. I've never actually watched a Ponderosa video, but I read about it here, and I think she'll be an ideal Ponderosa hostess. If Angelina goes soon (no spoilers, just hypotheticals), I think they'll be fun together.
  9. Gabby, I get you. I too am a crier, and when I cry I know people are judging me for crying and that frustrates me, which just makes me cry more. I know other badasses who are the same way. You are in good company. A+ to the editors. Watch the part again where Carl takes the beer bottle from Alec at the merge feast. Alec is goofily partying and Carl matter-of-factly grabs the bottle from him in a way that's hilariously Carl. Christian and the piece of wood. Dan and Angelina self-motivating out loud. I love this season and I love these people. THIS. What's more, Angelina was exactly right to be concerned when the target changed from Christian back to Elizabeth. From Angelina's perspective, it shouldn't matter which David gets voted off, and the fact that her supposed alliance-mates prefer one to another suggests that their preference is a threat to her game. Which it actually is. I don't hate Angelina. She's abrasive af, bless her. But her only real option was "Goliath strong." Even if she really had a connection with Elizabeth, Elizabeth didn't have a connection to anyone else, so it was all but useless. Still, in trying, however pathetically, to keep her only option open, she was only doing what the other Goliaths were doing by saying no to Christian: trying to protect her asset. This edit, though. She won't last long. Here's the thing about Elizabeth: she explicitly said that she's not taking anything personally because it's a game. I absolutely believe her that it was hard for her to throw Angelina under the bus, but it was her only game option. And it was good for all the other Davids to encourage her to sow dissent among the Goliaths to create reasons to target other Goliaths before them. There are a lot of long games going on and it absolutely delights me. You may have misheard her name as "Yanni." I'll show myself out.
  10. This made me laugh because of a scene in School of Rock (which is like a religion to me). Mike's character weakly apologizes, and when he's told to stop apologizing, he apologizes for apologizing. After the IC, he says "sorry" to the tribe in a way that I swear could have been edited in from the scene I just described.
  11. Re: the difference in Gabby's and Christian's reactions to their new situation: In addition to what has already been said, I'll add that Gabby is 25 and Christian is 32. Those years were crucial in my evolution toward being comfortable in my own skin.
  12. It just so happens that I own an off the beaten path motel that looks like a relic from a 70s horror movie: It was actually built in the 40s. We could have a forum pseudo-Survivor experience there! We have to act quickly though. We're hoping to demolish by the end of the year. Who's in? NO QUITTERS. Errrr topic... Yeah - go if you're going, and if you're gonna go, freaking GO. That said, The show was still pretty young when Jenna did AS. She may have even made a deal in the first place that she'd participate if and only if she was released at any time due to her mother's health. It's more forgivable for her under those circumstances than it would be now. Totally understand about Kelly Goldsmith not being able to go to AS because of it, but I never liked her anyway. Now if it had been T-Bird in that spot...
  13. I can't believe NaOnka and Purple Kelly haven't shown up in this conversation yet. It's obvious what category they go in. John Rocker's wife was another weak quit. Penner's medevac is one of the saddest to me, because infection risk is a thing that just doesn't feel like a big deal until it's too late. He didn't quit, but I bet he feels like he did.
  14. I vote for discussing the winner in the episode thread rather than the reunion thread, if it matters. @violet and green, I've been driving myself batshit crazy running through all the possibilities, and I'm delighted to stoke your Donathan fire. As I've explained here and elsewhere, Donathan's E1 edit leads me to believe that he makes F3. I do think that Donathan will be the consensus F6 target and be out unless he wins immunity. I feel certain he makes F3, so I expect him to win F6 immunity. If Dom/Wendell bounces the other before F4 and then loses F4 firemaking, we could see an F3 with neither Dom nor Wendell. If we see Dom/Wendell face off in a fire making challenge, I think the winner of it wins F3. I think winning the fire-making challenge elevates a person in the eyes of the jury. I suggested last season that Chrissy should have picked Ben to at least rob him of the opportunity to win one more thing in front of the jury. You tell the jury you didn't want to shy away from your toughest competition and hope for the best. But that same principle of being elevated by fire making applies to Donathan: if Donathan gets into F3 by winning fire making, it gives him a nice, recent, feel-good resume point in front of the jury. I still see a chance for Laurel to win with a loyalty story or Sea Bass to win with a Fabio story (including immunities), but I find these so unlikely as to not be worth discussing.
  15. He certainly is more appealing with an island look. The facial hair makes him look more mature and I think naturally shaggy hair is a good look for him. I hope he doesn't look like a 12-year-old again at the reunion.
  16. I went to law school at age 37 because I decided I'd rather regret going to law school than regret not going to law school. Plenty of people go to law school thinking they want to be lawyers but not really understanding how tedious the profession is. Others go thinking that a law degree is their tool to save the world (that was my case), not realizing how ineffectual the law is to make change and how it's kind of a secret club open only to the wealthy. In my school, which was among the top, no one really dropped out for realizing it sucked; no one really dropped out at all unless they couldn't make it (washed out) or they got a better offer (e.g., two people in my section quit to go to Quantico once they got accepted to FBI training). For those of us who could make it, the extreme pressure we put upon ourselves to succeed would not allow us to get out until we finished that bitch. I graduated cum laude and was appointed to "order of the coif" (a national honor society), and I am now a homemaker and a blogger. Topic? Oh yeah - Y'all know I've been obsessed with Donathan's edit since week one; I posted most of my spec in the episode thread but I want to go into a little more detail here. I still can't get over that first-week edit with Donathan achieving what big strong hot James could not. If he was just the also-ran he's been portrayed to be up to now, there was no reason for that. The week one story was a warning that you shouldn't underestimate Donathan. The F3 - and maybe winner, is the wrap-up of that story.
  17. I'm so so late to the party - just finished reading all the posts in this thread, and it seems as though, since next episode is the last, it's OK to mix some speculation with the episode talk here. If not, please advise and I'll edit appropriately. Note: I am completely unspoiled. But I'm gonna start with this: I think Donathan is going to F3, and I think he's going to immunity his way there. Sometimes I feel like I'm watching a different show from those of you who think Donathan has no chance to win. IIRC, early on an argument was made that he couldn't win because no one would let him near the F3 because adorable country boy with sick mama and meemaw and Aunt Patty. (I don't read bootee interviews or watch Ponderosa videos. I read about them here, and based on that, I know Donathan isn't very popular among the jury, but I'm basing my spec just on watching the show as edited.) I've been arguing that Donathan is an important character since week one, because of the edit with the diving challenge. IMO, that's even stronger in retrospect; James was pretty much irrelevant to the end game so there was no need to show it for his story, and if they didn't want to show something specific about how Donathan was perceived by everyone (including himself), they could've edited it as blah as it needed to be. Donathan hasn't been hapless in the challenges. He finished second in the ball-balance that Dom(?) won (the one that killed Malcolm even though he had the advantage*). He hung in there just fine on the spool team challenge with Laurel; they beat Sebastian and Kellyn. I'm not sure that he's ever been the first out of any individual challenge, and I could list at least a half dozen F6/5/4 challenges in which he would be competitive. So, to bring it to this episode: I believe Donathan's meltdown was to show that he was the only one insisting on trying to split up Dom/Wendell at this point (word is that Kellyn was too, but we weren't shown that), and that might win crucial brownie points with the jury at the end. For Wendell, this episode emphasized that he is King Jury Management. Remember the shell he brought back to Sea Bass, especially in the context of his giving Sebastian hints on the puzzle this time? Wendell is getting an amazing edit, and I believe that if he gets to F3 he wins. For that reason, I believe there will be some sort of consensus to target him before then. In other words, I think that his apparent coronation this episode just explains the "why" of his ultimate ouster. I think Wendell is the only one who can beat Donathan in F3. I think this episode may have set up a Donathan/Domenic showdown in F3; one that is as good-natured as it seems the rest of this competition has been. All the ousted, up to and including Kellyn, have behaved very sportsmanly toward their rivals. So, working backward, I think Donathan wins F4 IC and takes Laurel, leaving Domenic vs whoever (it could be Wendell and that would certainly be a good climax to the Wendell/Domenic story, but it really doesn't matter who it is) for fire-making, and Domenic wins. Speaking of fire making: One might argue that your fire-making skills are at the core of your fitness to play this game. So whomever Dominic beats in that F4 fire-making challenge can get there in a variety of ways, with or without idols, but as we wrap up the season, these are the stories I'm seeing.
  18. Wait, I thought that was Andrew Savage.
  19. I watched "Talking Points" last night. The Ann Coulter character is played by Charlotte Ross, who is totally not the same person as the Rohmbot, no matter what your eyeballs tell you.
  20. Well yeah, it's the smarter play, but the show shouldn't let that happen. They should force exposure, dammit. Also, it makes me grumpy. Also, why has no one yet talked about how Sebastian spelled Desiree's name?
  21. I dunno; Libby's been the only original Malolo to go since the merge, and she seemed tightest with Michael. Now there are four original Malolo left, and Laurel and Donathan have options. Michael doesn't really have options and Jenna just has Sebastian, who is basically just a walking blunt. If she even has him because who the hell knows. Anyway, Malolo 4 is still a very workable group at this point. I don't see where Laurel has any down side to the last several votes.
  22. LOL at the idea of Chris as the mayor of anything. He's more like the court jester. Or the mayor's dog.
  23. Oh. My. God. My neck still hasn't recovered from my synesthesia in seeing her all scrunched up like that. If I were her trainer, I would have lit into her for that form, but you can't argue with results. What a great unlikely challenge beast she'd be. For real. There was one TC shot of everyone, and I knew he was supposed to be there but I swear I could not see him even though I was actively looking. I definitely heard him say the word "high," though, and I laughed. I was too, after all. If she did this, I would forgive all her other sins. I don't despise her, but I do find her annoying. The cutesy thing just does not work for me. +11 to this post. Rocks is such a cop-out. When it's a group decision, they should at least vote. That would introduce an additional element of strategy when there are cross-tribal alliances due to mix-ups or whatever. Will we see an individual challenge winner have to send someone to Ghost Island? It would be so weak if they can just bleat "rocks" and not have to take responsibility. And not only is it lame that so many people have not been able to play, but the fact that it's a game of chance is stupid too. It should be something that the person has control over. What if they had to solve a super-hard puzzle that could maybe take them all night? They have to decide whether it's more worth it to go to sleep or stay up for the advantage. Watching them do the puzzle would be boring, but watching them stress out over their decision might be cool. I don't know. Or a challenge against a clock. I don't know. Anything other than this fucking dice roll. I guess I forgot to quote the post, but I'm with whoever said above that Donathan's game is underrated. I still fully expect him to win at least one immunity. Either way, I think Laurel and Donathan are both in a great place, but I have mixed feelings about whether telling Dom about Des's plan to oust Kellyn was the right thing to do. Right now, Laurel and Donathan have options with Dom/Wendell and original orange tribe. Bouncing Kellyn would have cut off one of Dom and Wendell's other options, potentially making Dom/Wendell more dependent on them. Of course, If Laurel quietly went along without notifying Dom and Wendell, that would run its own risk of alienating them. Laurel's best option would have been to organize the vote so that Kellyn goes without Laurel having to vote for her.
  24. I am heartbroken that Probst didn't say, "This is NOT...just a fuckin' stick." So what if they bleep him - we all know what he really said! And would anyone here not love him for it?
  25. Definitely counts as an idol, but only at the TCs it's good for. So Dom had an idol at 13, but even if he hadn't used it, he wouldn't have had an idol at 12. Also, a hot dog is a sandwich and so is a taco.
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