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I just don’t like this person. I blame the parents.

Thank you for the recap @Libby Ysabel is a sweet kid. What I want to know is, who keeps asking about favorite siblings? Of course in a family that size someone may have siblings they are closer with, but do we need to know who everyone likes the most? Also, Mykelti is annoying even in this recap.

@Zahdii Good advice!!

Does anyone know if Meri and Leon have a relationship at this point? I’ve been seeing rumors that they don’t. Of course I’m taking it with a grain of salt, but where we see Janelle and Christine often with their kids, we never see Leon and Meri in photos together.

Well. I’ve missed some things. Lol. I mostly feel sad for this family. I think Kody was right when he said they failed, though he was speaking about showing the world the good side of polygamy. Yeah, the kids are adults and have the right to say whatever they want, but I know when I was their age I was rather opinionated and, honestly, I cringe at some of the things I said and did. I definitely think Christine should try to reign them in or at least have them speak to a PR person before continuing these social media posts and interviews. It’s notable that none of Janelle’s children are involved and that Leon is nowhere to be found in this. I can’t blame them at all. Remember when Kody made that comment about Ari being outspoken like all of his kids? Definitely Mykelti, Paedon and Leon fit that mold. It’s a Brown family trait that I do not care for.

If I were Meri, I would definitely write a book. Christine should have done it a year ago. She’d be raking in money by now.

There was a lot going on in Brown family in those early years. Despite what Meri has said about not being jealous of Janelle/Kody, her being overly affection with him in front of Janelle speaks for itself. And she was admittedly jealous of Christine. Everyone acknowledges that Christine was brought in to calm the waters. Then they bring children into this. And Meri only has one, then goes through years of infertility treatments that don’t pan out. Meanwhile, J & K are literally popping them out one after another. We know enough about Meri to know that was a hard pill to swallow EVERY DAY. I can easily, very easily see her resenting those children. Add in the fact that she is a lot more tightly wound than any other wife (pre-Robyn), and I get why some of the kids would say she was strict. I’m not discounting anyone’s lived experiences, but I can’t really see Meri being physically abusive. She was likely the strictest mother figure they had. Janelle was working most of the time and probably tired and passive when she was home. Christine had to be overwhelmed. How could she not be? She was in a constant cycle of pregnancy, home schooling, child rearing (ALL the kids, including Meri’s) and work. When the father of those children was asked for help, he refused. So, yeah. I could see her being like screw it. Let them climb the walls for a little while. I have morning sickness again and I have to make dinner for 15 people.

I have no intentions of watching this interview but I am enjoying whatever info y’all see fit to share. My child is currently transitioning. It is very hard for me to remember - consciously remember to call them by a new name (and it’s not really new. It’s a middle name). It just slips out of my mouth without any thought behind it. Btw, I really hate the term deadname. How could a name that I loved and chose for you be dead? I digress. It takes intentionality and time. My son chose to start transitioning to female, which put me in a state of unwitting transition as well. Not unwilling, but kind of like I had pulled the Tower in tarot. As in, okay. This is an unexpected change, let me adjust. I could imagine it’s difficult for the Browns to see the sister they knew as Mariah go from a polygamy aspiring teenager to the person they are now. Some people adjust more easily than others. I cannot imagine that Meri, who took her daughter’s homosexuality so hard, had an easy adjustment to Leon transitioning (if that’s what’s actually happening.) I believe that she accepts Leon but if she had the choice it might not be the same.

“In the month's since the taping of those interviews, Kody and I have had many open and honest discussions that have led to our announcement today.” Yeah, I don’t believe this for a hot second. Kody could barely be bothered with Meri.

I actually re-watched that episode not to long ago. Kody wanted to buy new sleeping bags but Janelle refused to spend money (has nothing to do with the topic here but I noted it). So, Janelle said she wasn’t comfortable with PDA because when she first married him, Meri 🙄 was all over him all the time and she just learned to step back. So what would Robyn’s solution to that have been had she been wife #2? I think either she or Meri would have ended up in a body bag.

Wait a damn minute here. Robyn said Kody had had wives reject him “affection-wise” because they didn’t like it or weren’t comfortable. “That’s not who they are.” What does this mean? Is she saying that Kody wanted sexual acts that certain wives didn’t want to engage in? And how would she know that? is she saying Kody wanted sex when wives didn’t and he felt rejected? Again, how would she know that? Could she possibly be saying he wanted sex to procreate and other wives were like yeah, I think I’ve had enough kids and Kody thereupon felt rejection? Once again, how would she know this? I have a hard time believing ANY of this (with the exception of Meri/catfish.) Janelle has just recently said how good she and Kody were “in ALL aspects.” Christine literally peaced out on the marriage in large part because of the lack of intimacy. So what rejection is Robyn speaking of? Unless she was specifically and only talking about Meri as the “wives” that rejected Kody.

Was Meri’s interview really just 5 minutes or was there more that didn’t make the cut once TLC realized she was very carefully watching what she said? He’s never going to take you back, Meri. It’ll never happen. Watching Robyn was like seeing a villain unmasked on Scooby-Doo. Always knew she was a fake, manipulative assbutt but we finally see her true face now. I’d bet a good chunk of money Janelle is completely safe from ever having to work on her marriage. Kody doesn’t forgive or apologize. She could leave her doors and windows wide open and he’ll never come knocking. So what else is left? I don’t need to hear from Kody and Robyn again. If I were Christine I would want to focus on moving forward with my life and stop looking backwards. Meri is a non-factor, although I wouldn’t mind seeing her actually saying eff it all and officially moving to the B&B or wherever. Janelle’s living situation interests me but I don’t need a full season of her decisions.

I would imagine that both Robyn and Christine, having been raised in polygamy, would have learned how to be manipulative in their marriages. Likely by just watching their mothers in that family dynamic. Kody never respected Christine and may have felt that she’s as dumb as some of you consider her to be. I would agree that Christine can be fake, but I think it’s a part of a persona she had to take on within this family to calm the waters when she first married in. I do think that Janelle is passive to a fault. I definitely think Meri and everything that went down with them BC (before Christine) is a factor. She learned that it was just better to work and be out of the house away from HBIC Meri Brown. As the one controlling the finances, I think she just learned how to settle for less as the family grew and they had to figure how to stretch their limited income to feed and shelter so many people. She’s still settling for less. She needs therapy. I feel for her. Robyn always had first wife energy. She didn’t need to be the mediator like Christine. She didn’t have to make Kody’s life easier by easing things between two warring wives. She didn’t need to abide by a budget because they were on TLC and had “made it.” Because the family was well-established at that point, she could be everything that Kody wanted, needed and dreamed without the baggage of his first three marriages.

“If you’re not with me, you're against me.” - Father of the year Kody is insufferable. When Janelle said there was general discontent among her children, he immediately blamed her. Does he have relationships with ANY of his children besides Robyn’s? Also, who helped Janelle move? They were behaving as if it was Kody’s first time there, so either they’re lying/acting for TLC or he wasn’t involved at all.

I would love that. After all the time and money she’s given to this family, she deserves a house big enough for her children to come back to during holidays or whatever. Doesn’t have to be a multi bedroom McMansion, but definitely bigger than the apartment she’s renting.

Kody is NOT going forgive Janelle for her so-called betrayals. Her best bet is to stay close to her kids/family and visit Christine as often as she can, which seems to be pretty often according to their social media.

I laughed because I had to zoom in as well. I probably should watch the Tell All sneak peek again. Did Kody or Janelle say they’d been separated for months? Someone alluded to that in the episode thread and it got me to wondering if they’ve been separated (whatever that means to them) for most of this year.

Kody is just terrible. A horrible husband, but especially horrible father. Why hasn’t he talked to his kids about Christmas? Or at all? Robyn is a lying liar who lies continually. I also want to know the difference between separated and divorced in this scenario. Because there will never be a reconciliation and we all know that. Kody doesn’t forgive. And Janelle won’t choose him over her children (or Christine or her dogs), which is what he wants. Does “separation” stall the financial decisions?

How many times does Kody have to say he doesn’t want Meri in order for her to get it? Just think of all the years she’s wasting being *loyal* to this scumbag. Notice how Janelle ignores Robyn and speaks only to Kody. Lol More than ever I hope Christine lives her best life away from these people. Kody will act like he doesn’t want to know what she’s doing, but he does. I hope it makes him writhe in anger every hour of every day.

Yeah, he wants to see the kids, but only if he can control the circumstances.

“Plural Marriage isn’t all beer and Skittles.” 🤣🤣🤣 He’s an idiot. 🤣🤣

Didn’t Janelle and at least some of her kids have Covid? Why is Kody acting like he and Robyn were the only ones who got it? He probably didn’t even call Janelle to check on her or her kids when they were sick. He and Robyn probably sat up and chuckled about how superior their Covid protocols were. And Robyn’s over there “crying” as per usual. 🙄 If I were Janelle, I would just walk. I’d politely ask Kody who the f*ck he thought he was talking to and get my purse and leave. This man is not worth it. The aggravation of dealing with him and his tantrums has to stress them the hell out. No wonder Christine looks so much better after leaving.

Ah, got you. People were saying that was evidence they’re not together.

This isn’t directly stating that Janelle is not his wife anymore.

I know there are rumors regarding Janelle and if she actually left Kody. Gwen said she did but kind of backpedaled by adding “I think.” And there’s been speculation about the wedding photo and Kody not sitting with Janelle, but nothing stated outright from anyone. I believe that she has either left or Kody has Meri’d her (haha) for the simple reason that she’s doing everything he hates. She’s still close with Christine. She hasn’t forgone her children to spend holidays with Robyn’s family (this sounds like a nightmare btw). She spent Thanksgiving with Kody’s least favorite sons, Gabe, Garrison and Paedon. I’d be shocked if any one of them apologized to Queen Sobyn for not kissing her royal patootie.