moonpie

Couldn't agree more. Vivian was edited. The rest of the solo could have been fine - they just picked out some odd 'joining' moves. And I always wondered if someone on CMT suggested to her she might like to do something special to persuade K and J - like a poem. Considering how few WOC made it in the past, it's striking how often WOC were used as a 'story', eg. Vivian and Amy.

can’t believe it. Hannah was on Daphne’s vlog and looked so happy. Feel so sad for her. I Hope she hits it out of the park on those grad school finals and gets an amazing job.

Oh no!!!! Lily, Brennan and Hannah????? I was worried about Hannah after I saw her insta story post.

Poor Brennan. Hope the drugs do the trick. Maybe they’ll make her watch through zoom!

I hope that it was Paige’s decision to leave when she did - as they’d turned a blind eye all along.

Poor Heather. I hated it when Carla in the past season was cut after her ex sent explicit photos of her to KandJ. It was revenge porn and he got what he wanted. And it was sad when Holly wasn’t an all star. These girls are victims of crime. (and even if you do delete from phone, it can still be on cloud and I think you can delete from cloud but very sophisticated hackers can still find it). There are hackers out there trying to monitor the phones of all women in the public eye to make money and because they are misogynists - they shouldn’t be rewarded.

100 percent agree. The poor TCCs on the bubble, having to wait until Friday now. And what I find most difficult to stomach is that the show presents the final cuts who are openly distressed as ‘too emotional’. Not just Malena but all of them. When everything is set up to make them emotional - endless TC, late nights, stringing things along - and the long wait alone in the studio before the office meeting. Dear whoever is the last cut, please don’t give them the satisfaction, try and keep your anger and sadness until you’re out in the car. Not easy I know.

I wonder if TPTB have been spooked by all the controversy about the Mavs dancers, disbanded & Cynthia Marshall said they were ‘sexualized’ and not family friendly. That, the lawsuits (especially info about cheerleaders expected to submit to all sorts from sponsors) , the new Me Too focus on how society treats young women and girls (inc the massive news story at present)...might have persuaded them that the way to protect DCC and show it as different, a) take only one Mavs dancer b) put the most ‘wholesome’ and ’kid friendly’ looking women up front.

Poor Gina! I know I’m in the minority as I find her face attractive - but she’s got everything else, always smiling, never makes a mistake, always supportive on social media and so talented. Really disappointed for her.

The diversity is poor, I agree. It has always seemed to me also that over the years WOC (esp black) feature disproportionately in show’s ep 1 section about ‘look at these poor dancers /unattractive girls who show up’. And the WOC who do make the team and stay on tend to have to be the absolute top - Jackie B, Sasha, Jacie, Khalyn. The mediocre floaters have a different look.. i wish they’d taken Kylee, her face looked perfectly fine I thought.

So - have I got this right, in her last year Cassie was late for appearances and was found with a football player when she should have been at an appearance? And went on USO Tour where she got together with a serviceman, was found out by the DCC powers that be and people on the base knew, including an officer’s wife? I think the rules are ridiculous and outdated on fraternizing etc - but If this is right, this really shows up the favouritism...and makes so many other cuts seem even more unfair. I remember there was some talk on here that Heather H, Allie and Raylee had known too much about Holly and that played into their cuts at finals (I really thought Heather H was great). Where knowing and not saying anything is a crime for some girls but others get away with doing exactly what they want....

They're on their way! Anyone know what their schedule is in UK?

Yes, agree, definitely powers that be higher than K and J and they like to keep things the same... Now this series has come to an end...I wouldn't say it was my favorite. Loved Melissa rookie and the girls were great as ever but I found some of the weight discussions hard to watch and the whole series a little claustrophobic. I think my favorite series was 6 - so many great rookies - McKenzie, Brittney, Veronica, Courtney, Emma, Kali, Katy....and great ones who didn't quite make it such as Kalli F and Taylor.....I felt we got to know a lot of them. That was the series in which there were ?14 guaranteed spots for rookies as so many girls had retired. Lot less spots this time round... I wondered what your favorite series was and why...

Yes, v true, there are so many pretty girls, I can hardly work out the most beautiful. Kali was a great looking girl, I agree - and agree on Vivian too. I think Brittney S herself has a beautiful face, Jackie Bob had perfect features too...but they're all such handsome girls...

Yes, definitely low on blondes this year... I was reading Brittney's live tweets in the show on Friday. She was saying that Ashley P wasn't misunderstood but 'she's just so beautiful that its intimidating. I'd be scared to talk to her too!' Interesting. Do you all agree she's the most beautiful DCC?

Interesting that there's been so little Kitty in this series. IIRC most series have her pop up in episode 6 or 7, teaching a class and giving tough opinions. We haven't seen her much since episode 2 - am I right? Possibly she's ill or too busy etc. But I do wonder if CMT made plans to revamp the show with big things like Melissa R to having less Kitty and even small things like Kelli turning off the light in the room...and the cheerleader competition winner announcements. Seems quite different this year. And it often seems to me in telly that a revamp is not always a good sign - someone high up wants bigger ratings and if it doesn't get these ratings, then it is in trouble. As many of you have pointed out, the lack of marathons this year seems odd....

I wonder if Vivian means that the TV cutting and editing meant that it didn't sound like a poem to us viewers - when the actual full text was a poem... I also wonder if she can't be more clear because their contracts with CMT have strict clauses restraining them from implying that the footage altered things in any way....most participants in reality shows claim the footage exaggerated things, but it seems to me that TCCs don't... Sorry, crossed with you ClosetBachJunkie!!

I think that a poster on TWOP spotted Kelli tweeting Vivian last year encouraging Vivian to reaudition....

And agreed on Alexandra, what a charming and hard working person. Two episodes makes me wonder if they'll have time for the DCC camp out...was rather looking forward to the tent decorating montage....

Am I right in thinking that Chandler wasn't in the group of lowest scorers from finals on the deleted scenes dance - I saw Ashley P, Vivian, Mallory, Alexandra, Mary, Lacey, Caila...which suggests if my eyes aren't wrong that Chandler (and Victoria, although like the rest of us, not sure who she is) had pretty high scores....

Vets have to do something different each time - Kelsey said on Facebook that they spend a lot of time and money on finals prep. Melissa is wonderful. Incredible really to think that she - as you ladies spotted above - auditioned in 2010 and didn't get through...

My goodness - interesting stuff and what a fascinating point on Hannah ClosetBachJunkie - they had to cut her for show drama before she actually succeeded in losing the weight! ITA that cutting a vet is so much more dramatic than a rookie. And as we know TC used to be smaller in the pre show days and cuts much rarer. The vet cuts meant a lot with Chelsea and Hannah because we were familiar with both women thanks to the coverage they got as rookie TCCs Interesting that Judy said after Hannah's cut, 'we should just cut maybe vets at auditions', when it does seem, as you say ClosetBachLover, that that will not be possible in future as the show is moving toward showing at least one vet being cut in dramatic circumstances. Sorry, ClosetBachJunkie not ClosetBachLover - apologies!

Interesting point, blairwaldorf, sure many of the team sees favoritism - and that can't be good for team harmony. I agree blairwaldorf that Hannah's cut was illogical. And I really can't fathom why K and J were so curt with her - no 'good luck in the future' or even a 'goodnight'. They were colder with her than Chelsea C last series, who after all had complained about the rules vociferously in a way Kitty called 'toxic' - Hannah was very professional when telling the others about her cut. I am thinking that being featured heavily as a TCC in one series might be the kiss of doom - Chelsea was everyone's pet in series 7 (K said she'd be a 50 yard girl), then cut in series 8. Now Hannah was the pet of Series 8 and she is cut in 9. Whereas I seem to think (please correct me if i am wrong), there was not much coverage of those now seen as super veterans such as Samantha, Jennifer and Holly when they were in TC. Hope this trend stops and we don't lose the one in TC who is the pet of series 9 - that would be dreadful!

On this weight thing, you are much greater experts on the DCC than I...what would you define as the 'off season' for the DCC? I remember Charlotte asking 'what are the veterans doing in the off season', looking at Kali because she felt they were out of shape. Obviously June to December is super busy. But is, say, March to May, quieter time? Also - I get the impression that there are lots of formal dinners and lunches as part of DCC - am I correct? I remember the etiquette lesson in the expensive hotel - with Meagan Flaherty er al (season 4?) This dinner had much cheese sauce as far as I remember! Surely it is hard to dine formally on a regular basis and keep weight down - as you have no choice of menu etc... And what is the DCC banquet? Is that a big meal? And the dinners after games look like big meals too in people's tweets... Of course, I understand that eating together is vital to team spirit, I just wonder if the social requirements of the DCC could actually increase the weight of some girls....

Entirely agree on Melissa K's tweets. I suspect that her name would have trended on twitter, even if she'd not sent a single tweet - it was such a newsworthy event and got wide coverage. If she had not tweeted and stayed silent, there would have been speculation she was upset/ill/in trouble. She did the right thing to send a jokey 'I am fine!' tweet.