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I think DWTS has lost its way that's why the viewership is down. Bring it back to what it originally was: a ballroom/latin-focused show with seasoned professionals (remember when these were world champions, not just SYTYCD alumni?) teaching celebs how to perform these rules-heavy forms of dance. Strictly Come Dancing is hugely popular as a show and tours, and is still a ratings winner although it's been on longer than DWTS. DWTS viewers don't even know what they are supposed to look for in particular dances because everything seems to have been jazzed up by these inexperienced pros and flipping Mandy Moore. They think performances with lots of mistakes should get high scores because they liked how they looked. They've made the show ordinary and unspecial by watering down what made it unique. Make the show classy and respectable again. Make Jazz and Contemporary choices, not compulsory dances that take away from the core and judges need to scold the pros when their celebs don't seem to have the basics down. Also, the viewers don't need to be informed by the show about any relationships forming between pros or celebs. Let people speculate and leave that to the media.
I had no issue with Bobby winning. That shows the power of the viewing public. He got more votes than everyone else. The audience needs to stop whining and vote for who they want. Would those complaining about Bobby's win like for the show to be solely decided by the judges? Should they remove the viewers' vote? Do you think the audience would be as invested in the show if their voices were muted and they had no say in who wins?
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I DWTS has lost its way that's why the viewership is down. Bring it back to what it originally was: a ballroom/latin-focused show with seasoned professionals (remember when these were world champions, not just SYTYCD alumni?) teaching celebs how to perform these rules-heavy forms of dance. Strictly Come Dancing is hugely popular as a show and tours, and is still a ratings winner although it's been on longer than DWTS. DWTS viewers don't even know what they are supposed to look for in particular dances because everything seems to have been jazzed up by these inexperienced pros and flipping Mandy Moore. They think performances with lots of mistakes should get high scores because they liked how they looked. They've made the show ordinary and unspecial by watering down what made it unique. Make the show classy and respectable again. Make Jazz and Contemporary choices, not compulsory dances that take away from the core and judges need to scold the pros when their celebs don't seem to have the basics down. Also, the viewers don't need to be informed by the show about any relationships forming between pros or celebs. Let people speculate and leave that to the media.
I had no issue with Bobby winning. That shows the power of the viewing public. He got more votes than everyone else. The audience needs to stop whining and vote for who they want. Would those complaining about Bobby's win like for the show to be solely decided by the judges? Should they remove the viewers' vote? Do you think the audience would be as invested in the show if their voices were muted and they had no say in who wins?
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1 hour ago, JenE4 said:
After the whole fake Tia/Colton love triangle to force a storyline over three different shows, I’m now questioning the sincerity of Joe and Kendall. For someone so “camera shy” Joe sure likes being on TV. Who’s running the store while he’s on three shows straight?!?
The man is getting paid. You don’t have to love fame to do what Joe’s doing. It makes good business sense and if he and Kendall are really serious, ABC is paying for him to stay in LA and be with her. He gets some of his anonymity back when he retreats to Chicago and to his store whose location he still hasn’t revealed.
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3 hours ago, CindyBee said:
I don't understand Joe's infatuation with Kendall at all.
I don't think we've seen everything that happened between these two. When did they discuss her commitment phobia or how suffocating her ex-boyfriends were? The producers chose to show us none of their serious conversations until the end.
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I'm also not thrilled about these new styles that the pros have not mastered. We've seen pros like Janette struggle with choreographing traditional ballroom and it is not fair to have both the pro and the celebrity try to learn a dance they are not familiar with. It is painful to watch them on Dancing with the Stars flailing about because they think that is what Contemporary dance is supposed to look like. I'm dreading Hip Hop/Street. The good thing is that they get to choose which one they'll do.
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On 8/21/2018 at 3:00 PM, legaleagle53 said:
Strictly Come Dancing just announced this year's cast and the addition of three new pros, one of whom hails from South Africa and is that show's second POC pro: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/strictlycomedancing/entries/2c041434-fe0e-4566-bf45-b9f9e8ddfde7
Isn’t Jannette a person of color? She’s most definitely not white. Also, Katya is half Korean and she was the recent winner.
On 9/1/2018 at 6:45 PM, legaleagle53 said:You read correctly. She was announced as part of this years cast on Strictly. And ringers aren't new to the UK -- nor is the controversy surrounding them!
I thought it was hilarious that so many people spoke out against almost 70 yr old Debbie McGee because of her dance past. She was damn good to be fair, but ballet isn’t ballroom.
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4 hours ago, LennieBriscoe said:
What am I reading?! Some people not quite sure of Grocery Joe on "DWTS"?
Oh, you'll (female contingent) change your tunes, haha, when you catch GroJoe (tm LB) tripping the light fantastic while wearing a tux!
*looks for a Victorian fainting couch*
Can you imagine him doing the Jive or, as this is no longer a ballroom show, Jazz or Contemporary? Will he break character and start laughing in the middle of an emotional piece? I'm nervous about all of this but I still want to see him try and succeed.
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1 hour ago, Mu Shu said:
You also could make popsicles with the chemistry between him and the odious Kendall. She’s a crummy actress, and Joe can’t act for shit. He’s totally uncomfortable and it shows.
I personally like their chemistry and the candid moments we get to see of them when they're not aware they're being filmed. Joe just seems like he doesn't want to start acting with her when he knows the camera is on them.
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1 hour ago, Petunia13 said:
I think it's Eric's Food Center.
Joe probably doesn't want his store found, which would explain his evasive answer when asked where it is. Maybe people should stop trying to dig out where it's located. Let him say if he wants to.
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2 hours ago, tennisgurl said:
I dont think Joe is dumb, I just think that he is a bit awkward on camera, and maybe is a bit of a simple kind of guy, but he certainly seems more well adjusted than most guys in this franchise.
Of course, he and Kendall also got suckered into babysitting for free AND building a crib...
Joe could be just as awkward in real life but he does not seem particularly comfortable on camera. He is very aware that it's there. I have caught him more than once look straight into it. Tonight it was right after John and Chris were dancing in the pool. Dude is not an actor. I love him.
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1 hour ago, Mu Shu said:
The Kendall/Joe thing is scripted. You could tell from his body language he’s not into her last night. Sort of rigid hug.
However, I would demand his firing if he worked for me. He’s used all his vacation time, damnit.
Joe owns his business. He made his money in finance as a trader and opened his own store, apparently like some other family members. He has never answered any of the people on social media who have asked where his store is. These public appearances are not benefiting his business aside from the money he brings in.
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4 hours ago, CindyBee said:
So Joe was on Ellen with Lea Michelle fawning all over him. So I can't see producers trotting Joe out on such a big show if they weren't seriously considering him for the next lead.
Can't link the clip as I'm at work still but will do so later.
Are the producers responsible for that or Ellen just likes him? I know some of the people who work on her show love him.
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10 minutes ago, BiteTheLime said:
Ok, I think we're all getting played. They are setting Grocery Joe up for TB and have been all along. He is way too good-looking on TV to not know it. And they know it. It has to be an act. They are creating our next "Fan-Favorite!!" by having him finally "open up" and "put himself out there" only to have his heart broken after choosing the nice girl, that most fans generally like. This has to be set up.
I don’t think Bachelor producers could have predicted how popular Joe was going to be with fans of the show and I kinda doubt he wants to be the Bachelor. There is so much focus on Colton that he is more likely their man for the job.
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7 hours ago, rlc said:
To all those wondering what Leo’s appeal is, as the kids say, he’s got the BDE (big dick energy).
No, he does not. Calling himself an alpha confirmed that and tries way too hard.
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Kiki and Sydney are there and they are not doing any ballroom together? His Cha Cha with Jenna was exciting and so damn good. This makes no sense but then I remember Mandy Moore is the tour coordinator. Jazz and Contemporary take precedence.
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3 minutes ago, Ohwell said:
Hmmm...I don't remember Arie but I just saw footage of him on Access Hollywood. Not impressed.
Yeah, he wasn't impressive on Emily's season either. All he's remembered for are his kisses and living in the shadow of his dad.
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8 minutes ago, fib said:
So much nicer of a take than Rachel "none of my top four should be the Bachelor" Lindsay.
She's already congratulated Arie.
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7 minutes ago, thehepburn said:
Wow. I just took a look at Arie on GMA and the yrs have not been kind to him. He has that middle age spread in his face and IIRC, he didnt have the 6-pack back then so I doubt he has it now. Combine that with a LOT more gray in his hair and he looks like he is in his 40s, not 30s.
I also forgot how he always looked so clammy all the time until someone reminded me upthread. Oh well, at least he was always good-natured and I am sure that he is eager to jump thru any hoops that Fleiss wants.
Arie will do whatever they want, so good for Fleiss and the crew. This man has been waiting around for half of a decade hoping to be called. Interesting that nobody is wondering why a guy who was supposedly ready for marriage and the works almost six years ago is still single. I'm sure he will do the expected and propose at the end of the season.
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Arie huh. That's disappointing. I was a Jef girl and never cared much for Arie. I guess I will continue to get my dose of Peter from Instagram.
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5 hours ago, nutty1 said:
That has to be Bachelor speak......so many of them say it!
No, I've heard it outside of Bachelor Nation, which tells me that somewhere in America this is being taught. I hope by now someone has corrected Peter and explained why what he has been saying is wrong.
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2 hours ago, Hello Lady said:
I don't think they want someone that can't commit, especially after that idiot Juan Pablo. They love Ben Higgins btw...( for another try)
Whether the guy commits to marriage or not at the end doesn't matter to the producers. They want a show that lots of viewers will tune in to watch. Peter would have been a great Bachelor because the public (for the most part) seem to love him and there would be mystery because the audience would be kept wonder if he will propose this time. I personally loved his directness and would be curious to see how he handled 25-30 women. Wells is cute and that is all I can say about him.
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20 hours ago, Madding crowd said:
I don't think I am in a cult because I like Peter.
You are not in a cult. There's nothing to think about. Cult is just a nasty malapropism being used because 'Peter couldn't possibly have anyone who likes him for him.'
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5 minutes ago, Hello Lady said:
Mike Fleiss tweeted today "Do we really want a Bachelor who isn't ready to settle down with a woman he loves? Hmm. Not what the bachelor is about.
I guess thats why other names have been tossed around.
Well, this should make a few people happy and also put a stop to others saying the producers were editing the show in favor of Peter.
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39 minutes ago, CalamityBoPeep said:
I agree this is where this is going.
Interestingly, what I saw was Rachel "negging" the hell out of Peter on that AFR segment, and him having to sit there stoically taking it to avoid coming across as a bad guy by defending himself. Any argument he might have presented at that point would simply be interpreted as him being a sore loser. He hinted around the things that he'd want to ask about, but said that the timing wasn't right. Ie: Not in front of a live audience.If I were Peter, my main question would be: "Why, in the name of all that is holy, if you knew after the Fantasy Suite dates that you wanted Bryan... you sent Eric home instead of me???" That is the least reasonable and most painful decision she could have made. Eric was firmly friend-zoned and seemed to know it. And it set Peter up for the break-up. She forced his hand on the whole proposal question. She (and production, I am sure) basically tried to break him down, to make him do something against one of his highest values, and then would have rejected him in spite of it. That's just ugly behavior, and if production pushed her into it, she should have said "No. Not happening."
And people are mad because he said something in the heat of the moment that he later regretted. Basically this><close to calling him an abuser because of it. As if Rachel has never said or done anything that she should seriously regret. And then Rachel uses his position as the reject to talk down to him, as if she could "help" him somehow, like Oprah, by saying over and over that this venue isn't for him. When she started talking down to him in the AFR segment, he looked at her as if seeing a new side of her for the first time, and he wasn't happy about it. Of course, he didn't say that, so I don't know for sure if he felt it, but he seemed to be pretty certain he got closure in the morning show interviews. I just wanted him to be able to say once... "You had another guy ready to propose, told him you wanted him, and you never told me I was it for you. I asked you point blank, and you evaded the question. I read between the lines."
She gave Bryan the confidence to come into the final rose ceremony certain that he was number 1. She tore Peter up, then blamed him for the decision she'd already made before coming to see him the night of the break-up. She could have come into his room that night and said "Let's talk about tomorrow," as she did. He'd say "Yes, tomorrow." And she could have said right then... "Peter, I'm letting you go. The timing hasn't been right for us."
Instead, she danced around the subject, put him in a can't-win situation (he couldn't propose, he couldn't not propose) then ripped his heart out on tv.
I am a married woman, have been married for 30 years, and I can honestly say that any woman who can not bring herself to try to sometimes see things from the point of view of a man, needs to avoid marriage. Men have feelings, and most of the time women don't give them any right to feel the things they feel. "Oh, boo hoo... suck it up!" women tell men. Women are basically discounting Peter's feelings having validity because they make women uncomfortable. Then they accuse him of being a jerk for having the feelings. Peter is not a representative of any system other than the system in his own mind.
He's an individual man. Nothing more. Nothing less. No one is required to like him. No one is required to want to date a man like him. But that doesn't mean he should be associated with every bad thing out there just because a television break-up was so awful. He's one man. One hurt man. And Rachel could have given him a dignified exit, but instead she chose to let production have its way with him. Yes, I do blame her for going along with them. But I suspect that we all know where the initial impetus for creating Drama came from.
Excellent, well-thought out post. Thank you.
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The Bachelorette in the Media
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If damaging allegations like this are going to be made, you better come with some strong proof. Michelle knew enough about Joe to DM him, yet this pretty big thing never came up? She and Nayte are also still hanging out with him in Minn. I understand why decent people aren't touching such a rumor. Why attempt to destroy a man's life and not present any evidence that what you're saying is true?