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  1. tv-talk

    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    That was weird but it was also a 1-time thing and happened when the show was trying to be funnier. As for the younger self thing, given we are supposed to believe that everyone most especially Kelly wasnt completely flipped out by young Kelly being there in 1st place- then no it's not that odd that initially he was crazy attracted to her and reciprocated HER ADVANCES ON HIM. I mean we are supposed to believe that Kelly2 shows up and everyone just thinks "Ok, I guess she is an officer on the ship now- let's get drunk with her like anyone else, this is all normal." At that point why cant he date her if they are mutually attracted to each other? Isnt everything supposed to be ok? The doctor wanting a relationship with a robot and having sex with a blob is normal and fine and evidence of how evolved she is as well as everyone else who doesnt judge her for it but Ed cant be in love with...literally the woman he fell in love with and married? Seems like bit of a double-standard.
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    Doctor Who in the Media

    Thanks for that, I'm not too familiar with Hartnell/Troughton and have watched Pertwee spend large amounts of time on "present day" Earth so on 2nd thought wasnt sure if it was more from Baker forward that they show went full timey-wimey.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    Oh please. Kelly drinks with him all the time and clearly finds him to be her best friend on the ship. She also directly told him that the only reason she doesnt date him again is because he might send Bortus (or whomever) into dangerous situation rather than her- then Bortus might die instead of her because of their romantic involvement. Well guess what? If she really believes that then she needs to ask to be re-assigned immediately because obviously he does have feelings for her that could affect his decision-making regardless of whether they are together. So why is she sticking around if that is really such a big concern of hers? Sorry but the notion he is harassing her is absurd. It's his ex-wife whom he still loves. It seems creepy because McFarlane is a bad actor who looks like he has someone else's face glued onto his head.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    What does that mean? Women are just as prone as men to hold onto relationships they should let go, that is not a gender issue.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    but then she loves to hang out with him when not on duty, confide in him about her relationship, talk about the fun they had, AND get drunk with him alone. It's really not creepy that he still loves his ex-wife given the situation.
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    Doctor Who in the Media

    Agree they definitely went clickbait but he does realize the show is about time travel right? Seems pretty natural that stories about changing events or singular moments in time would be at the very core of the show.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    I was hoping when Ed gave the order to power down he added "that includes you Isaac" at which point Isaac's eyes went dark and he leaned over at his station, completely inert. but really the notion that Kaylon scans wouldnt have detected the biologicals aboard the ship is fairly nonsensical, just have to suspend disbelief for sake of the plot ie young Kelly grasps gravity of command situations.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    Is there a chance he realizes this? The 30sec preview for this week's episode opens the door to possibility of a complete reset (of sorts). If they dont go that direction, I wonder what chincy excuse will be used to reverse things back to normal. Isaac's brain has a quantum field memory so he knows things have changed? The device Isaac and Lamar created somehow tells them everything is wrong? Believe me, I'm a massive Doctor Who fan so I can deal with the timey-wimeys pretty well- I just wont appreciate if the main timeline is different and there is a bogus way they can tell and try to reverse it. If young Kelly altered history by never dating/marrying Ed...no one in the new present should be able to suss that out. At any rate, definitely excited to see what they do!
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    It comes down to acting and there seem to be several cast members who can carry an episode better than him. I thought he was kind of exposed as not quite being up to task when the Kaylons took over ship and killed crew member right in front of him.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    Kirk would have kicked Picard's ass.
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    S02.E13: Tomorrow, and Tomorrow, and Tomorrow

    My first thought seeing her was "If they try and do Seth younger it's going to be awful and hilarious. At first didnt like this episode because I generally am a huge fan of the amount of romantic storylines in the show and having 2 Kelly's to watch was almost too distracting- what a gorgeous woman. However by the end it had turned into a great episode in a way that McFarlane does well, having interpersonal issues between crew become part of a much larger problem. Loved the very end, so many ways they can go with that, I'm not even sure it will be addressed next week- they may save it for later, though my guess is next week Kelly will be the captain of the ship! Ok so Ed would 100% have hooked up with young Kelly and gone from there. 120%. It's not like he was 50yrs old and a 22yr old showed up wanting to redo his bad marriage. It's just 7yrs and he is so over-the-top smitten with "older" Kelly that there I'm just not buying he wouldnt have slept with her. Also they glossed over fact that the pheromones are why Kelly cheated on him, that bit of info changes everything and you can see why Ed, young Kelly, and older Kelly might all think maybe things could have worked out. So basically Isaac's return to the show is that he turns the Orville into a TARDIS. Um, ok. If they do have to "fix" something young Kelly changes and that's how they do it...large can of worms. Overall I'm actually hoping the season finale is not a time-travel scenario and that the last scene with young Kelly was simply to make for a great ending ie did she know something or not? That show is an absolute abomination and if I didnt know better would say is an intentional insult to long-time ST fans.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    The Admiral didnt know Isaac nor was he going to be living/working with him after he betrayed the human race in an effort to wipe it out. As for the cruelty, the point of a scene like I described would be to impress the fact that Isaac is "just" a machine and not capable of feeling sad nor neglected nor persecuted.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    Yep, I would have loved a scene in briefing room without Isaac where Bortus says "we should turn his ass off" and Ed says "He's just a machine and should be seen as such, a tool that we use to further our mission and the Union" while the Doctor has a pained look but says nothing.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    It's really a common trope I suppose, I mean there are the obvious ST examples like 5'2" Starfleet captain somehow battling a 6'9" Klingon with batliff to almost a draw, but that's no different that LOTR which spends considerable time building up the Urak Hai as genetically modified killing machines yet dozens of whom somehow cant manage to kill 3-4 people. It crosses all genres and suspension of disbelief required!
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    I was assuming everyone involved was working with the "stun" setting. If the notion is that every person shot was killed...then there should be full out war between Moclans and Union for the most part.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    Once again, that is not the point. The point is fighting back vs being helpless. The show portrayed the Moclan women as needing Bortus and Kelly to rally them rather than having a fighting spirit of their own. Even worse, if the Moclan women were overmatched due to be outgunned, how was 2 more rifles going to make a difference? Oh that's right, Kelly is a Union officer so at 135 pounds she can take down 6'7" 290 pound Moclan soldiers with one punch while shooting 6 armed opponents before even one can get a shot off- comes in handy. That always seems to be the case in ST too, as I said above.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    So what? That's not the point at all. The point is slaves did in fact revolt against and kill their opressors many, many times- despite the overwhelming odds and fact said revolts always ended up failing. They kept doing it. Meanwhile the Moclan women are portrayed, despite being fully armed themselves and numbering in the thousands, as needing 2 Union officers to show up and save them from what looked like at most a dozen Moclan men.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    Well, there were many, many instances of slaves violently rebelling when they had access to weapons- so rather than expect it it's historical fact. As far as this episode, the Moclan women were initially portrayed as warrior-tough when they captured Kelly and Bortus...however then they were cowering in fear and completely disorganized when being rounded up, until the Union officers rallied them. Why werent the repelling the Moclan men on their own? They seemed to be organized in military fashion earlier in the episode. A better script would have had the Moclan women fighting off attempts to non-lethally subdue them and the high tension being the Moclan captain saying he was going to send additional troops to overwhelm and eradicate them as they would not come peacefully. Kelly and Bortus saving them was too Union-centric for me.
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    S02.E12: Sanctuary

    Yeah I really dislike that and it's a feature of every ST series as well. What is the purpose of having these NFL linebackers from warlike cultures (Moclans/Klingons/etc) who then cannot beat humans in hand-to-hand combat? Then they always have to pile it on by having a human woman able to knock down these aliens with a swift kick or punch. Remember the boxing scene where Bortus was knocked back 30' thru the ring ropes and into the ship's hull? That would have killed any human and he got up and walked away. Or when that hulking Moclan towered over Ed and told him "Capt, do you realize you are not very sturdy" or something like that? The fight scenes are bad imo, would much, much prefer Kelly and Bortus outsmarting the Moclans. Overall I like EVERY bortus episode, he's become by far my fav character but I could without the extended fight scene and am not a huge fan of the Moclan delegation basically just screaming in outrage all the time when we see them. Of note, looks like Isaac is now basically a tool that the humans use, basically a super-computer they query and give orders too. Gone are all "his" observations about humans, emotions, etc. That's great because you know NO ONE wants to listen to a word of that now. He's just a machine in the background. Very interesting tho I'd have really like a scene where Ed and the command officers discussed it.
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    S02.E11: Lasting Impressions

    Deleting Greg completely changed Laura for obvious reasons, the Laura who'd broken up with Greg is the Laura that Gordon loved so if he'd kept them from getting back togther she'd have still been the same facsimile of a person he somehow loved.
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    S02.E11: Lasting Impressions

    I was reminded of early Orville episode (maybe premier?) where Ed goes into holodeck to recruit Gordon who is in middle of some fight game where he'd programmed a nice personality into the holodeck characters he was fighting. Remember how he just killed the one who was being very affable? What if Ed had just stabbed Laura in the neck during pictionary, would it have been any different? Not one iota different. That first episode made me think they were going to use the holodeck in disturbing fashion like that, would have been very edgy. Instead they went for what's pretty standard holodeck cliche.
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    S02.E11: Lasting Impressions

    All Gordon had to do to avoid Greg was work a little faster. He met her at the party and she invited him to something a week later, he just needed to make it happen sooner and then she might not have gotten back with her ex. He restored her ex because it suited what he wanted in his sex toy, regardless of what he may have told himself. The whole notion she was so into him initially is pure holodeck fantasy to begin with, the computer knows he's the crew member in there and thus it all centers around him- that's how the holodeck works isnt it?
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    S02.E11: Lasting Impressions

    Was that it tho? Or was it he liked her as the confident woman who loved to sing at small shows and wanted that person back to "date"?
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    S02.E11: Lasting Impressions

    I dont see the Orville as a ripoff of ST in any way shape or form because it's absolutely McFarlane's homage to Trek and intended to be as such. They arent 'stealing' anything from ST, they're appreciating it. And thank goodness too with the absolute schlock ST has become with "Discovery." It's really McFarlane carrying on the ST tradition rather than ST at this point.
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