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My question is, if Casey is from the future, how are they passing themselves off as a current Goodwin family member? Everyone has accepted they are a member of the family, a family presumably reasonably well known by the town. They were asked to act as the rep for the family at Founders' Day. How did they accomplish this? I would think the Evelyn's children, even if moved away, would hear about some child claiming to be one of their kids, living at the mansion while probate is happening, and making speeches on behalf of the family. Other than that, this episode was pretty good. But I couldn't not agree more with @jmonique that I hope next season, the action is spread more evenly throughout the season. It feels like a ton happened in the last 2 episode whereas, almost nothing happened over the proceeding 5. Yeah, I'm very confused about the Colton info we received. I agree that the woman and the boy by the pond seemed dressed for the 19th century and nothing later than the 1930s even if Grandma favored her clothing style from her youth. Colton's clothes were more ambiguous. But that dress felt like a pretty hard mislead unless Colton time traveled forward. I'm assuming it's the former, however, since it would be hard in a town like theirs, it would be pretty hard for a Landry, one of the three main founding families, to just appear out of now where. (See also my confusion re: Casey.) My recollection is that Jacob disappeared from a Carnival. There was no reason to think Jacob had returned to the Landry property. Also the little boy who was with Jacob didn't tell everything because he was scared and confused. If Colton had known Jacob was actually at the farm, he might have considered it.

I got the impression that she wasn't entirely clear about the events immediately prior to the injury and may not have been certain how they had left that conversation at the time. If she did remember, I wouldn't blame her for feeling overwhelmed and simply pretending not to remember to avoid the issue. I forgot to mention above that I still HATE the Nick and Alice crap. I mean, I'm glad it's resolved and that Nick was appropriately squicked out by Alice being Kat's 16/17 year old daughter. But I still find Nick's wildly strong reaction about a girl he dated for a collective 20 or so days during the summer of 99 and one NYE the same year, all when he was 16, to be fucking weird. It was weird for him to have such a strong reaction when he was 24 and weirder to have it now that he is 40ish. Like, the dude HEARD HER SINGING AFTER 25 YEARS and got a far away look in his eyes. I'm not sure I'd recognize a recording of my own 16 year old singing voice these days, let alone a voice I heard 3 or even 10 times in the distant past. I repeat, it's not sweet; it's weird.

A lot happened in this episode. That was nice. But some of this could have been spread over two episodes and felt a little easier to digest. I'm not typically one to randomly ship same-sex, ostensibly straight characters. But I saw more chemistry between Kat and Susanna than most of the time between Kat and any of the men. Though Kat with Thomas isn't bad and at times I shipped her with Elliot. But in both cases, it felt more from Kris Holden-Ried and Evan Williams' parts. With Susanna, I actually saw an emotional connection from Kat. Other than the backlit nightgowns, it wasn't necessarily sexual. It was just more compelling. I figured Susanna wouldn't be able to use the pond. But I was disappointed for her. I'm glad Jacob is staying in 1814. It makes no sense that he would want to go back after living most of his life, and almost all his remembered life, in the 18th and early 19th century. I hope Kat can continue to visit, though. And I hope Del learns the truth soon.

For me, Steve's transition out of cliché 80's douche began during season one. It started when he got on the ladder to fix the sign calling Nancy a slut (or whatever it said, I barely remember this) and continued right through to his bursting in to help save Jonathan as well as Nancy. I distinctly remember shouting "Hell yeah, Not-So-Douche-Bag Steve!" when he came through the door with his bat.

Exactly. My immediate reactions was Bailey, I love you. I have loved you for two decades. But if you gamilfy procedures, you don't get to be offended that your interns began thinking of the procedures as a game/competition.

I think it's a combination of making the decision to potentially turn her existence in to a paradox, fighting with Brady, and Kat getting seriously injured due to his choices. I' struggling a bit with the younger set cast, at least for the guys. I realize that they chose young male actors who had a more juvenile look in order to make them moderately convincing 16 year old in Season 1. But guys builds and faces generally change A LOT between 17 and 25. Alice was right, the sad excuse for facial hair does not make for much change. Teen Nick is a little more ambiguous. But he still has a serious baby face for a supposed 24 year old. Speaking of Nick, as much as I didn't like adult Nick seemingly shook up by hearing Alice sing, I was surprised it was almost worse to watch 24 year old Nick go all moony and obsessive and chasing her like Heathcliff to Kathy's ghost about the girl he dated during one summer and then a NYE party and then saw maybe three times over the next year. Hey Show, STOP TRYING TO MAKE NICK & ALICE HAPPEN! Good Lord, I didn't realize how much I didn't care about Kat & Elliot as a ship until this episode. I'm not mad at it. I'm unmoved by it. And I care even less about Nick learning about The Time Pond. Just let him go marry his "Care-Bear." (🤢) Finally, the whole Jacob story is reaching a point that I don't care because there has been so little movement I don't believe any resolution in possible this season unless it is egregiously rushed. And I don't really want to watch this glacially paced story line into a possible upcoming third season.

I don't think Del was specifically upset about the paper. She's been increasingly upset with Kat for her repeated disappearing acts and concerned by Kat's obvious preoccupation with something she won't talk to her about. Del has mentioned Kat's repeated absences throughout the season. And she was already upset that Kat bounced from the Founders' Day event after less than an hour both for personal reasons and because she was aware Kat was supposed to be covering it for the paper. And Del isn't wrong. Kat has let basically everything in her life slide in pursuit of Jacob. Hell, she even forgot about Alice until Thomas reminded her that there is someone else she cares about and that she doesn't have "nothing" if her little brother isn't the idealize man who is overjoyed to rejoin her in the future that she has been fixating on. And it was the mayor who called Del to ask WTF was up with Kat when s/he saw the amateurish and badly done (in a manner obvious to literally everyone) issue covering the town's premiere tourist event. I assume that Del is well known to the mayor and he or she was calling Del as a friend to ask how the Hell Kat had published an issue that might not have passed the inspection of the editor of a high school paper.

It was still part of the tour as late as 2019. I recognized it too. I laughed right before the water ran because I recognized the sight. And then flood waters hit and just started to giggle. I enjoyed the episode. But that moment just struck me as funny.

Finally, after THREE EPISODES, Jacob appears to finally be conscious and aware of Kat. I enjoyed this episode if for no other reason think at least two plots actually had some movement, even if I didn't really have any interest in Nick recognizing Alice in the present.

I have given this show a lot of leeway in plotting and writing because it's a time travel show - for which there is no right answer other than to follow the rules you established - and it's basically a feelgood family show with a barest hint of edge... like a butter knife edge. But that plan made NO sense. The whole reason Susanna and Thomas allegedly couldn't do the thing is because they had to create alibis by being seen not getting Jacob out... But for some reason Kat wanted a matching dress and, also, Thomas was going to drug them and Susanna was going to be on site in a nighty anyway? Thomas shows up and gives them alcohol after which everyone is knocked out and Susanna shows up out of the blue to spend time with the former fiancé she openly despises and neither of them is supposed to be suspicious because, why? Just because Kat planned to do the actual finding and freeing of Jacob (but for some reason they all ended up in the dungeon(?) Cyrus has in his home any) and no one is supposed to connect them to Jacob's disappearance? Yep. That's about it. Last season wasn't exactly fast paced. But it felt like more happened more often. Also, what even is the point of Casey Goodwin if they're going to show up every 2 or 3 episodes and have approximately 4 lines, lately expository, that could have been delivered by literally anyone else? I assumed at their introduction that they would befriend Alice and, together, they'd do some sleuthing though the archives together when Alice needed help... or maybe help Kat... or I don't, do ANYTHING beyond being awkward and maybe having a crush on Alice despite super limited onscreen communication.

I noticed the Doctor Who references too. During the building fire, Hannah also seemed to reference an equivalent to Doctor Who's "fixed points in time" with the moments that can't change. Also, I could swear I hear the TARDIS sound during the "Butterfly Effect " moment.

Their name (they specifically said they are non-binary) is Casey Goodwin. They're grandchild of the wealthy woman, Evelyn Goodwin, who recently passed away and in whose home they found the painting of Kat. I suspect they and Alice will become friends. Not sure about love interest. There is no reason to assume Alice is straight as opposed to bi/pan. But we've also been given no evidence to suggest it. The boy in the shop appears to be the next potential love interest for Alice. He was definitely a little flirty with the comments after the shakes spilling. But, if Casey is a slated for a romantic interest, he may end up being more of a detour on the way to them. It would be interesting if he were Jacob II checking out his future descendants. But since he apparently went to school with Alice, I assume he's just a boy in town (despite looking like he's in his early 20s). I loved the whole thing with Alice blurting out that they were going to lose the farm and Del's reaction to both Alice's concerns (loving) and the havoc she'd created in the town.

It's been almost a week and I'm still feeling the effect of seeing Lance Reddick's beautiful face on my screen. What a wonderful casting choice. He's a great loss. I enjoyed the interaction between Percy and Poseidon more than I did in the reading of it. Toby Stevens really sold the sadness and loss knowing he is hurting Percy and Sally and he can't prevent it. I wish we got a little more of Annabeth's reaction to Luke. I think Leah Jeffries did well with it. But I feel like she's capable of more than the scene allowed for. All in all, I'm looking forward a second season if we get one.

My head canon is that Persephone visits Cerberus daily to play and give him scritches which is why he responded immediately to affection and play. It's like police dogs where I live, when they get the cue they are no longer on duty, they're just sweet babies who want the ball.

I'm always here for Toby Stevens. I thought the scene with Poseidon and Sally was good. I don't think we got that perspective at any point in the books. They were really good. Young Percy is impressive. I liked this episode a lot. It felt the most like I felt when reading. I don't know if that makes sense. As always, enjoying the casting of the Gods, Jay Duplass was solid as Hades and I'm delighted to see Ares back.

This show seems a little effortful... like it's trying very hard to be something and is almost there but there is a hum of exertion underneath. That said, I still enjoyed it well enough as a diversion. It's pretty (if trying a bit hard on that front) and several of the performances are engaging. The Interpol agent was fun. The character was a bit broad but it was well done. Still mostly here for Mandy Patinkin and Rahul Kohli.

I'm enjoying this well enough. It's pretty and Mandy Patinkin can get me to watch nearly anything. Also, I liked the introduction of the Interpol agent. I'm looking forward to her. Wait, there are inappropriate crushes on Rahul Kohli? Never mind I don't want to understand. I didn't realized he was in this and became unreasonably happy when I saw his face, as I pretty much always do. He's another reason I will continue to watch.

I always read Hermes with a little more cheek and mischief. But that could have just been me. I wasn't against LMM's portrayal. It just felt like his aura of warmth and wholesomeness was coming through and I couldn't tell if it was written, intended, and/or just him. Could easily be all three.

Yeah, I kinda wonder how much of that is because Lin-Manuel Miranda is physically and constitutionally incapable of not exuding some degree of doe-eye wholesomeness. I'm a little ambivalent about the portrayal. I liked it, I think; but I was also left uncertain. Maybe that's appropriate for Hermes? This episode was maybe my least favorite and I'm not certain entirely why. Still a good show and a solid translation from the book series. I just found the episode sort of empty. It felt like it lacked story movement... although maybe that is appropriate, too, for the Lotus Hotel.

I'm glad episode threads are getting a little traffic finally. I really liked this episode. I liked the version of Medusa that seemed more vengeful, misused and abused former mortal plaything of the gods than malicious monster. I've also been enjoying the gelling of the kids. It seems realistic that it would take time for them to trust each other. But the end when they each explained choosing each other was nice. This may belong in the book vs. series thread, so I will put under tags:

Jack isn't trying to enter, much less reign over, her world.

A snob, yes. Particularly as to pedigree. However, her stance regarding Raikes' lack of money was not without reason. Marriage was one of the limited ways women could gain security. Marrying a poor lawyer whose livelihood may never achieve financial stability and could even be lost would be a huge risk. Even his lack of standing in society posed an independent risk. He didn't have the connections necessary to advance to a more lucrative practice or any relationships to aid him if he had difficulties. I'm not advocating for the position she took. I just don't agree that it was baseless, shallow snobbery. There were actual consequences to accepting him as a suitor, particularly for Marian who had no wealth of her own.

The first movie was okay. I feel like I saw the second one eventually. But I have literally no memory of it. I know a lot of people complained about aging the characters. And I do think took something away from the relationships. The interactions do work better with preteens. For me, however, the movies' biggest sin was how much of the charm and humor of the books was lost by the rushed pacing of the movie. One of the things I like best about Riodan's books is how much much he infuses into even side characters. His knowledge of history and mythology and how he incorporates it into brief interactions is really fun as a reader. it's one of things I love most about the TV series so far is how much of that character depth has been translated into the show.

Couldn't agree more. The casting and the development given to each of the characters is really great. I'm disappointed whenever I realize I won't see most of them again, at least not this season. (Please let there be more.) I also loved the conversation with Grover and Ares. It was also nice to see Grover as more than peacemaker between Percy and Annabeth. I actually laughed out loud when it started. The amination with it was great too.

No, I was referring specifically to his physical appearance. His nose seemed a bit bigger and I think he grew a couple of inches. l'm really liking this show. I'm bummed more people aren't commenting.